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Let's get our terminology straight: They are not Chinese!

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So lots of "China" threads around these days. As things keep ratcheting up and as our government (and borders) are completely compromised by the Communists.

But we need to get our terminology straight. The aggressors against our economy, our military, our allies and our children are not the Chinese. They are the Chinese Communist Party... ChiCom's... Not Chinese.

In fact, there is only 'one' China. True Chinese people... who carry on the heritage, precepts, intelligence, industriousness and history of China. And they are the only true Chinese. They live on Formosa... also known as Taiwan. They are the ONLY Chinese left. They are the one true China. Because only they can trace their cultural and even genetic lineage all the way back to an ancient, prosporous and inventive culture that was once at the leading edge of, well, almost everything.

The ChiComs have no 'Chinese' left in them. Any of them who were born and/or allowed to live after 1949 are little more than insects. Worker bees, allowed to live by the state. Anyone who has not conformed to the party line, be it in religion, regional dialect, independence-of-thought, behavior, even color... has been ruthlessly murdured by the ChiCom State. For almost 75 years... through three or four generations, noone was allowed to exist without being in strict conformance to the Communist state. You could not marry without the state's blessing. You were allowed only one child (and millions killed their infant daughters until they bore a son) and if you were not 'in conformance, you were not allowed to procreate. Children could not be educated without the approval of the state. For 75 years, almost everything human about the population of the Chinese Communist State has been erased, not by natural social/cultural and darwinian factors... but by government fiat. If you don't conform to the Red Book, you are killed or starved or bred out of existance.

This means that there is noone left in that Communist state who is not simply a 'bio-robot' (as the Soviets called the Chernobyl Clean-up Crews). Bred and kept alive to serve the state. Prevented from thinking, reflecting, worshipping, 'being...' All things that make one human and make one a citizen of an actual nation state with heritage and culture and a future. If you represented "China" -- as do the Chinese people of Taiwan -- you were exterminated. You now represent only one thing. A ChiCom state. You are not a person. You are property of the state. You are not Chinese, you are a ChiCom unit. To be used to make Nikes and iPhones for no wages... or to be thrown in human wave attacks against any enemy (aka Korean Conflict) because the State knows you won't question it.

And in case you think I am just picking on China... look at the state of Russia. In 1989, they had the world handed to them. By 1992, Communism was gone... On the Ash heap of History. What did the Russian people do? Go right back to the same old system, but instead of Party Bosses spouting Marxist drivel... they got Oligarchs and NKVD-style strongmen killing off any opposition and State-run McDonalds. Oh and thrown into wave attacks in Ukraine. Unthinking... not unwilling to protest or throw off their shackles... but totally incapable of having the 'thought' that they can throw off their shackles. When you kill 100 million of your own people over 105+ years... you get the same servile, unthinking robots bred by the state to be 'bio robots.' The Russians just don't call themselves Communists any more. But National Socialism is still Socialism... and when the means of production are controlled by oligarchs who 'are' the state, it is the textbook definition of Fascism. It's not left and right. It's two sides of the same coin. And both require the Eugenics of death and statist breeding to succeed.

So let's stop referring to China. And Chinese people as being our enemies at this point. Because the only 'Real' Chinese people are our allies on Taiwan. They were our allies in WW2. They were our allies before the war. They were our trading partners... and while sometimes relationships were rocky, the U.S. never exploited China like the Europeans did. The only people on earth who can trace their lineage back to that era... are the Taiwanese. The only Real Chinese left on the planet.

The rest are ChiComs. Chicom robots. Chicom human-like forms. Chicom Government. Chicom territory. From the Steppes to the Sea, mainland Asia ruled over Chicoms has no more resemblance to 'China' than Cairo resembles the pyramids or Stockholm represents a Viking village. Those places evolved. Chicom's used eugenics to wipe out everything that was China and put in place a Communist superstate. From the architecture to the agriculture to the breeding out of anyone "Chinese" in their midst... the ChiCom's are not Chinese.

Once we get the terminology straight... we can get our thinking straight. And our economic decisions straight. And our foreign policy straight. And even our own domestic policy straight. Supporting ChiCom's in any way shape or form is like supporting an army of droids or zombies. Flesh and blood? Sure. But not bred to understand even the concept of Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. But instead bred and molded and culled off to do only what an all-powerful state tells them. Little Terminators... "They can't be bargained with... they can't be reasoned with... they will never stop until everyone else is like them."

Kind of sounds like the definition of a virus... doesn't it? Just like Mao and Marx and Lenin and 'ol Adolf intended. Bred by the millions to do nothing more than take over neighboring 'cells' that can be used to make more viruses. And, of course, all this is being pushed in your schools, universities, corporations, unions, social media right here at home. Spreading. Slowly. Until it kills the host organism. Leaving nothing behind but a replicator for more virus particles. That's what ChiComs have become. But they are trying to be all 'sneaky-like' and call themselves anti-fascist or some horse doo-doo.

Anyway... some thoughts for a Sunday morning. Which is when I usually wake up and find the ChiCom's have spammed the shit out of Fieldcraft. Or tried to ram our ships. Or sent Hunter a billion dollars and a hotel room full of pre-pubescent girls (which Pedo-Mao was a huge fan of.) And I bet XI-Poo doesn't shy away from that tradition. After all, they aren't human... they are his property as 'he' is the ChiCom State.

So time to call them what they are. Unless referring to our allies... the one True China... use ChiCom. It reflects who they are... And makes a clear distinction about where they came from. And time to yank the economic rug out from under them. We should not be selling them the rope... or buying it.

Sirhr
 
So lots of "China" threads around these days. As things keep ratcheting up and as our government (and borders) are completely compromised by the Communists.

But we need to get our terminology straight. The aggressors against our economy, our military, our allies and our children are not the Chinese. They are the Chinese Communist Party... ChiCom's... Not Chinese.

In fact, there is only 'one' China. True Chinese people... who carry on the heritage, precepts, intelligence, industriousness and history of China. And they are the only true Chinese. They live on Formosa... also known as Taiwan. They are the ONLY Chinese left. They are the one true China. Because only they can trace their cultural and even genetic lineage all the way back to an ancient, prosporous and inventive culture that was once at the leading edge of, well, almost everything.

The ChiComs have no 'Chinese' left in them. Any of them who were born and/or allowed to live after 1949 are little more than insects. Worker bees, allowed to live by the state. Anyone who has not conformed to the party line, be it in religion, regional dialect, independence-of-thought, behavior, even color... has been ruthlessly murdured by the ChiCom State. For almost 75 years... through three or four generations, noone was allowed to exist without being in strict conformance to the Communist state. You could not marry without the state's blessing. You were allowed only one child (and millions killed their infant daughters until they bore a son) and if you were not 'in conformance, you were not allowed to procreate. Children could not be educated without the approval of the state. For 75 years, almost everything human about the population of the Chinese Communist State has been erased, not by natural social/cultural and darwinian factors... but by government fiat. If you don't conform to the Red Book, you are killed or starved or bred out of existance.

This means that there is noone left in that Communist state who is not simply a 'bio-robot' (as the Soviets called the Chernobyl Clean-up Crews). Bred and kept alive to serve the state. Prevented from thinking, reflecting, worshipping, 'being...' All things that make one human and make one a citizen of an actual nation state with heritage and culture and a future. If you represented "China" -- as do the Chinese people of Taiwan -- you were exterminated. You now represent only one thing. A ChiCom state. You are not a person. You are property of the state. You are not Chinese, you are a ChiCom unit. To be used to make Nikes and iPhones for no wages... or to be thrown in human wave attacks against any enemy (aka Korean Conflict) because the State knows you won't question it.

And in case you think I am just picking on China... look at the state of Russia. In 1989, they had the world handed to them. By 1992, Communism was gone... On the Ash heap of History. What did the Russian people do? Go right back to the same old system, but instead of Party Bosses spouting Marxist drivel... they got Oligarchs and NKVD-style strongmen killing off any opposition and State-run McDonalds. Oh and thrown into wave attacks in Ukraine. Unthinking... not unwilling to protest or throw off their shackles... but totally incapable of having the 'thought' that they can throw off their shackles. When you kill 100 million of your own people over 105+ years... you get the same servile, unthinking robots bred by the state to be 'bio robots.' The Russians just don't call themselves Communists any more. But National Socialism is still Socialism... and when the means of production are controlled by oligarchs who 'are' the state, it is the textbook definition of Fascism. It's not left and right. It's two sides of the same coin. And both require the Eugenics of death and statist breeding to succeed.

So let's stop referring to China. And Chinese people as being our enemies at this point. Because the only 'Real' Chinese people are our allies on Taiwan. They were our allies in WW2. They were our allies before the war. They were our trading partners... and while sometimes relationships were rocky, the U.S. never exploited China like the Europeans did. The only people on earth who can trace their lineage back to that era... are the Taiwanese. The only Real Chinese left on the planet.

The rest are ChiComs. Chicom robots. Chicom human-like forms. Chicom Government. Chicom territory. From the Steppes to the Sea, mainland Asia ruled over Chicoms has no more resemblance to 'China' than Cairo resembles the pyramids or Stockholm represents a Viking village. Those places evolved. Chicom's used eugenics to wipe out everything that was China and put in place a Communist superstate. From the architecture to the agriculture to the breeding out of anyone "Chinese" in their midst... the ChiCom's are not Chinese.

Once we get the terminology straight... we can get our thinking straight. And our economic decisions straight. And our foreign policy straight. And even our own domestic policy straight. Supporting ChiCom's in any way shape or form is like supporting an army of droids or zombies. Flesh and blood? Sure. But not bred to understand even the concept of Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. But instead bred and molded and culled off to do only what an all-powerful state tells them. Little Terminators... "They can't be bargained with... they can't be reasoned with... they will never stop until everyone else is like them."

Kind of sounds like the definition of a virus... doesn't it? Just like Mao and Marx and Lenin and 'ol Adolf intended. Bred by the millions to do nothing more than take over neighboring 'cells' that can be used to make more viruses. And, of course, all this is being pushed in your schools, universities, corporations, unions, social media right here at home. Spreading. Slowly. Until it kills the host organism. Leaving nothing behind but a replicator for more virus particles. That's what ChiComs have become. But they are trying to be all 'sneaky-like' and call themselves anti-fascist or some horse doo-doo.

Anyway... some thoughts for a Sunday morning. Which is when I usually wake up and find the ChiCom's have spammed the shit out of Fieldcraft. Or tried to ram our ships. Or sent Hunter a billion dollars and a hotel room full of pre-pubescent girls (which Pedo-Mao was a huge fan of.) And I bet XI-Poo doesn't shy away from that tradition. After all, they aren't human... they are his property as 'he' is the ChiCom State.

So time to call them what they are. Unless referring to our allies... the one True China... use ChiCom. It reflects who they are... And makes a clear distinction about where they came from. And time to yank the economic rug out from under them. We should not be selling them the rope... or buying it.

Such is the state of our political class and system . Not completely finished and probably at 90 percent . And without the total genocide shit . I said total because , well the Clinton's .
 
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So lots of "China" threads around these days. As things keep ratcheting up and as our government (and borders) are completely compromised by the Communists.

But we need to get our terminology straight. The aggressors against our economy, our military, our allies and our children are not the Chinese. They are the Chinese Communist Party... ChiCom's... Not Chinese.

In fact, there is only 'one' China. True Chinese people... who carry on the heritage, precepts, intelligence, industriousness and history of China. And they are the only true Chinese. They live on Formosa... also known as Taiwan. They are the ONLY Chinese left. They are the one true China. Because only they can trace their cultural and even genetic lineage all the way back to an ancient, prosporous and inventive culture that was once at the leading edge of, well, almost everything.

The ChiComs have no 'Chinese' left in them. Any of them who were born and/or allowed to live after 1949 are little more than insects. Worker bees, allowed to live by the state. Anyone who has not conformed to the party line, be it in religion, regional dialect, independence-of-thought, behavior, even color... has been ruthlessly murdured by the ChiCom State. For almost 75 years... through three or four generations, noone was allowed to exist without being in strict conformance to the Communist state. You could not marry without the state's blessing. You were allowed only one child (and millions killed their infant daughters until they bore a son) and if you were not 'in conformance, you were not allowed to procreate. Children could not be educated without the approval of the state. For 75 years, almost everything human about the population of the Chinese Communist State has been erased, not by natural social/cultural and darwinian factors... but by government fiat. If you don't conform to the Red Book, you are killed or starved or bred out of existance.

This means that there is noone left in that Communist state who is not simply a 'bio-robot' (as the Soviets called the Chernobyl Clean-up Crews). Bred and kept alive to serve the state. Prevented from thinking, reflecting, worshipping, 'being...' All things that make one human and make one a citizen of an actual nation state with heritage and culture and a future. If you represented "China" -- as do the Chinese people of Taiwan -- you were exterminated. You now represent only one thing. A ChiCom state. You are not a person. You are property of the state. You are not Chinese, you are a ChiCom unit. To be used to make Nikes and iPhones for no wages... or to be thrown in human wave attacks against any enemy (aka Korean Conflict) because the State knows you won't question it.

And in case you think I am just picking on China... look at the state of Russia. In 1989, they had the world handed to them. By 1992, Communism was gone... On the Ash heap of History. What did the Russian people do? Go right back to the same old system, but instead of Party Bosses spouting Marxist drivel... they got Oligarchs and NKVD-style strongmen killing off any opposition and State-run McDonalds. Oh and thrown into wave attacks in Ukraine. Unthinking... not unwilling to protest or throw off their shackles... but totally incapable of having the 'thought' that they can throw off their shackles. When you kill 100 million of your own people over 105+ years... you get the same servile, unthinking robots bred by the state to be 'bio robots.' The Russians just don't call themselves Communists any more. But National Socialism is still Socialism... and when the means of production are controlled by oligarchs who 'are' the state, it is the textbook definition of Fascism. It's not left and right. It's two sides of the same coin. And both require the Eugenics of death and statist breeding to succeed.

So let's stop referring to China. And Chinese people as being our enemies at this point. Because the only 'Real' Chinese people are our allies on Taiwan. They were our allies in WW2. They were our allies before the war. They were our trading partners... and while sometimes relationships were rocky, the U.S. never exploited China like the Europeans did. The only people on earth who can trace their lineage back to that era... are the Taiwanese. The only Real Chinese left on the planet.

The rest are ChiComs. Chicom robots. Chicom human-like forms. Chicom Government. Chicom territory. From the Steppes to the Sea, mainland Asia ruled over Chicoms has no more resemblance to 'China' than Cairo resembles the pyramids or Stockholm represents a Viking village. Those places evolved. Chicom's used eugenics to wipe out everything that was China and put in place a Communist superstate. From the architecture to the agriculture to the breeding out of anyone "Chinese" in their midst... the ChiCom's are not Chinese.

Once we get the terminology straight... we can get our thinking straight. And our economic decisions straight. And our foreign policy straight. And even our own domestic policy straight. Supporting ChiCom's in any way shape or form is like supporting an army of droids or zombies. Flesh and blood? Sure. But not bred to understand even the concept of Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. But instead bred and molded and culled off to do only what an all-powerful state tells them. Little Terminators... "They can't be bargained with... they can't be reasoned with... they will never stop until everyone else is like them."

Kind of sounds like the definition of a virus... doesn't it? Just like Mao and Marx and Lenin and 'ol Adolf intended. Bred by the millions to do nothing more than take over neighboring 'cells' that can be used to make more viruses. And, of course, all this is being pushed in your schools, universities, corporations, unions, social media right here at home. Spreading. Slowly. Until it kills the host organism. Leaving nothing behind but a replicator for more virus particles. That's what ChiComs have become. But they are trying to be all 'sneaky-like' and call themselves anti-fascist or some horse doo-doo.

Anyway... some thoughts for a Sunday morning. Which is when I usually wake up and find the ChiCom's have spammed the shit out of Fieldcraft. Or tried to ram our ships. Or sent Hunter a billion dollars and a hotel room full of pre-pubescent girls (which Pedo-Mao was a huge fan of.) And I bet XI-Poo doesn't shy away from that tradition. After all, they aren't human... they are his property as 'he' is the ChiCom State.

So time to call them what they are. Unless referring to our allies... the one True China... use ChiCom. It reflects who they are... And makes a clear distinction about where they came from. And time to yank the economic rug out from under them. We should not be selling them the rope... or buying it.

Sirhr
Lots of good points Sirhr and very well said 👍 Made me put on my thinking cap 🇺🇸
 
They are all one in the same. Those Chinese would go to war and die for the CCP, so show me the difference.
 
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So lots of "China" threads around these days. As things keep ratcheting up and as our government (and borders) are completely compromised by the Communists.

But we need to get our terminology straight. The aggressors against our economy, our military, our allies and our children are not the Chinese. They are the Chinese Communist Party... ChiCom's... Not Chinese.

In fact, there is only 'one' China. True Chinese people... who carry on the heritage, precepts, intelligence, industriousness and history of China. And they are the only true Chinese. They live on Formosa... also known as Taiwan. They are the ONLY Chinese left. They are the one true China. Because only they can trace their cultural and even genetic lineage all the way back to an ancient, prosporous and inventive culture that was once at the leading edge of, well, almost everything.

The ChiComs have no 'Chinese' left in them. Any of them who were born and/or allowed to live after 1949 are little more than insects. Worker bees, allowed to live by the state. Anyone who has not conformed to the party line, be it in religion, regional dialect, independence-of-thought, behavior, even color... has been ruthlessly murdured by the ChiCom State. For almost 75 years... through three or four generations, noone was allowed to exist without being in strict conformance to the Communist state. You could not marry without the state's blessing. You were allowed only one child (and millions killed their infant daughters until they bore a son) and if you were not 'in conformance, you were not allowed to procreate. Children could not be educated without the approval of the state. For 75 years, almost everything human about the population of the Chinese Communist State has been erased, not by natural social/cultural and darwinian factors... but by government fiat. If you don't conform to the Red Book, you are killed or starved or bred out of existance.

This means that there is noone left in that Communist state who is not simply a 'bio-robot' (as the Soviets called the Chernobyl Clean-up Crews). Bred and kept alive to serve the state. Prevented from thinking, reflecting, worshipping, 'being...' All things that make one human and make one a citizen of an actual nation state with heritage and culture and a future. If you represented "China" -- as do the Chinese people of Taiwan -- you were exterminated. You now represent only one thing. A ChiCom state. You are not a person. You are property of the state. You are not Chinese, you are a ChiCom unit. To be used to make Nikes and iPhones for no wages... or to be thrown in human wave attacks against any enemy (aka Korean Conflict) because the State knows you won't question it.

And in case you think I am just picking on China... look at the state of Russia. In 1989, they had the world handed to them. By 1992, Communism was gone... On the Ash heap of History. What did the Russian people do? Go right back to the same old system, but instead of Party Bosses spouting Marxist drivel... they got Oligarchs and NKVD-style strongmen killing off any opposition and State-run McDonalds. Oh and thrown into wave attacks in Ukraine. Unthinking... not unwilling to protest or throw off their shackles... but totally incapable of having the 'thought' that they can throw off their shackles. When you kill 100 million of your own people over 105+ years... you get the same servile, unthinking robots bred by the state to be 'bio robots.' The Russians just don't call themselves Communists any more. But National Socialism is still Socialism... and when the means of production are controlled by oligarchs who 'are' the state, it is the textbook definition of Fascism. It's not left and right. It's two sides of the same coin. And both require the Eugenics of death and statist breeding to succeed.

So let's stop referring to China. And Chinese people as being our enemies at this point. Because the only 'Real' Chinese people are our allies on Taiwan. They were our allies in WW2. They were our allies before the war. They were our trading partners... and while sometimes relationships were rocky, the U.S. never exploited China like the Europeans did. The only people on earth who can trace their lineage back to that era... are the Taiwanese. The only Real Chinese left on the planet.

The rest are ChiComs. Chicom robots. Chicom human-like forms. Chicom Government. Chicom territory. From the Steppes to the Sea, mainland Asia ruled over Chicoms has no more resemblance to 'China' than Cairo resembles the pyramids or Stockholm represents a Viking village. Those places evolved. Chicom's used eugenics to wipe out everything that was China and put in place a Communist superstate. From the architecture to the agriculture to the breeding out of anyone "Chinese" in their midst... the ChiCom's are not Chinese.

Once we get the terminology straight... we can get our thinking straight. And our economic decisions straight. And our foreign policy straight. And even our own domestic policy straight. Supporting ChiCom's in any way shape or form is like supporting an army of droids or zombies. Flesh and blood? Sure. But not bred to understand even the concept of Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. But instead bred and molded and culled off to do only what an all-powerful state tells them. Little Terminators... "They can't be bargained with... they can't be reasoned with... they will never stop until everyone else is like them."

Kind of sounds like the definition of a virus... doesn't it? Just like Mao and Marx and Lenin and 'ol Adolf intended. Bred by the millions to do nothing more than take over neighboring 'cells' that can be used to make more viruses. And, of course, all this is being pushed in your schools, universities, corporations, unions, social media right here at home. Spreading. Slowly. Until it kills the host organism. Leaving nothing behind but a replicator for more virus particles. That's what ChiComs have become. But they are trying to be all 'sneaky-like' and call themselves anti-fascist or some horse doo-doo.

Anyway... some thoughts for a Sunday morning. Which is when I usually wake up and find the ChiCom's have spammed the shit out of Fieldcraft. Or tried to ram our ships. Or sent Hunter a billion dollars and a hotel room full of pre-pubescent girls (which Pedo-Mao was a huge fan of.) And I bet XI-Poo doesn't shy away from that tradition. After all, they aren't human... they are his property as 'he' is the ChiCom State.

So time to call them what they are. Unless referring to our allies... the one True China... use ChiCom. It reflects who they are... And makes a clear distinction about where they came from. And time to yank the economic rug out from under them. We should not be selling them the rope... or buying it.

Sirhr
Like the bugs in starship troopers then?
 
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Yes they are still Chinese. Just modern day Chinese.
It seems like many modern Americans are not true Americans, either.
It’s what we have to work with today.
Who knows what tomorrow will bring…
 
They are all one in the same. Those Chinese would go to war and die for the CCP, so show me the difference.
I believe that’s the point. While I agree with the op general thought, and I do feel sorry for the guy spending his life in a rice field against his will, the simple fact is said rice feeds the army that someday will very likely be killing Americans. What you said is pretty much true of most dictatorship’s and communist regimes in history. Stalin killed 70+ million of his own people, the kgb wasn’t exactly popular, but the Russian people provided all the goods and material for the Russian army, who then massacred their relatives. You can’t separate a enemy’s backbone even if it isn’t exactly willing, because there isn’t a army in history that could wage war without being supplied by the rest of its population, and the quickest way to victory in any war is to destroy those supply lines, so yes the Chinese people are in fact our blood enemy.
 
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Like the bugs in starship troopers then?
Haven’t seen it… but like the clone armies in Star Wars… probably similar concept.

Sirhr

The movie Starship Troopers is... entertaining. But only slightly resembles the book.

The book is one of a handful that I think should be required reading.

And yes, the bugs represented communism.

Mike
 
a lot of the money that keeps people poring over the boarder is comming from china why wage war when they can just take over without firing a shot pay to wreck the us military with gender bs , screw with kids with crt and gender bs , split up the family , remove your rights to keep and own guns we would all be sheep .
 
a lot of the money that keeps people poring over the boarder is comming from china why wage war when they can just take over without firing a shot pay to wreck the us military with gender bs , screw with kids with crt and gender bs , split up the family , remove your rights to keep and own guns we would all be sheep .

Just because they are not Chinese doesn’t make un-crafty….

They understand the concept of “never get into a land war in Asia, too!”

Sirhr
 
I believe that’s the point. While I agree with the op general thought, and I do feel sorry for the guy spending his life in a rice field against his will, the simple fact is said rice feeds the army that someday will very likely be killing Americans. What you said is pretty much true of most dictatorship’s and communist regimes in history. Stalin killed 70+ million of his own people, the kgb wasn’t exactly popular, but the Russian people provided all the goods and material for the Russian army, who then massacred their relatives. You can’t separate a enemy’s backbone even if it isn’t exactly willing, because there isn’t a army in history that could wage war without being supplied by the rest of its population, and the quickest way to victory in any war is to destroy those supply lines, so yes the Chinese people are in fact our blood enemy.
Now apply this same logic and standard to your nearest and most dangerous enemy, the gov’t and those that work for and empower this criminal organization that attacks the rest of us that don’t, many of whom carry a gun in its defense under the illusion of serving and protecting the public.
 
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Charles E.Wilson was a General Electric executive, who first suggested a peacetime "permanent war economy".

excerpt from; Eisenhower 1953 speech: American Society of Newspaper Editors

The worst is atomic war.

The best would be this: a life of perpetual fear and tension; a burden of arms draining the wealth and the labor of all peoples; a wasting of strength that defies the American system or the Soviet system or any system to achieve true abundance and happiness for the peoples of this earth.

Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired signifies, in the final sense, a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and are not clothed. This world in arms is not spending money alone.

It is spending the sweat of its laborers, the genius of its scientists, the hopes of its children.

The cost of one modern heavy bomber is this: a modern brick school in more than 30 cities.

It is two electric power plants, each serving a town of 60,000 population.

It is two fine, fully equipped hospitals. It is some 50 miles of concrete highway.

We pay for a single fighter plane with a half million bushels of wheat.

We pay for a single destroyer with new homes that could have housed more than 8,000 people.

This, I repeat, is the best way of life to be found on the road. the world has been taking.

This is not a way of life at all, in any true sense. Under the cloud of threatening war, it is humanity hanging from a cross of iron.

Would like to believe that China today realizes they are nothing without the United States, the yuan currency
is based a GDP enriched from slave labor. Without the economy of the US the entire rest of the word could
not consume what they produce and continue to enrich the PRC at the same level of the past 3 decades that
we the United States have done. The war with China is real since 1950s and unconventionally fought since the
1970's. Why we ever allowed foreign students from hostile countries into university and nuclear programs one
may speculate. We need to stop this transfer of educational wealth.
 
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The CCP and the Mexican cartels are in partnership to bring us down with fentanyl, sleeper agents and other shit. They are destroying our economy and culture with the aid of the current administration. Nuke them from orbit.
 
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I recently read a think-tank's (see link below) report on CCP development of ballistic missiles, with both conventional and nuclear warheads. The numbers of new missiles and launchers that CCP is putting into service is staggering (1000s across all types). They highlighted the DF-21 and especially DF-26 missiles as "Carrier Killers" and "Guam Killers." The idea is to overwhelm limited supply of US SAM defenses with large numbers of inbounds, and then, after those stocks are depleted, continue firing more to remove the US threat coming out of Guam and from the carriers. Chinese ROE against targets in Japan is less clear.

Any experts on CCP ballistic missiles care to comment? Maybe this think-tank is overestimating the numbers, and therefore this depleted stock risk.

 
The movie Starship Troopers is... entertaining. But only slightly resembles the book.

The book is one of a handful that I think should be required reading.

And yes, the bugs represented communism.

Mike
Finally someone else who read the book and gets it. To me, Verhoeven nearly ruined it by making it too much like Robocop. But I could swear the actors read it because they brought the characters to life. The only odd thing was casting a gringo to play Rico. But Casper pulled it off. Other shining moments from Michael Ironside and Clancy Brown.

Heinlein, himself, thought that more important was the story arc of Rico maturing from a goofball kid into a man and a citizen being productive in society.
 
Finally someone else who read the book and gets it. To me, Verhoeven nearly ruined it by making it too much like Robocop. But I could swear the actors read it because they brought the characters to life. The only odd thing was casting a gringo to play Rico. But Casper pulled it off. Other shining moments from Michael Ironside and Clancy Brown.

Heinlein, himself, thought that more important was the story arc of Rico maturing from a goofball kid into a man and a citizen being productive in society.
LOL! I actually haven't "read" it.

A few years ago I was working down in Norman. I would drive down there on Sunday afternoon, stay with family in the area, and leave Thursday after work... It's about a 4 hour drive and I got tired of listening to my music playlists... So I started listening to free audiobooks on YouTube to pass the time... And Starship Troopers was one of the first ones to pop up. I enjoyed the movie and had always wanted to read the book. Hands down, one of the best books I've ever "read." I actually listen to it about once a year on average.

I am actually considering buying paperback copies of it and passing them on to my kids... And in turn making sure my grandkids read it as well. It will be a minute, the grandkids are just starting to get out of diapers... But I consider it an investment.

Heinlein made several points in that book that I absolutely agree with... Limiting franchise to those who have proven themselves responsible enough to use it... And publicly flogging parents alongside their children in the event the child commits a crime.

I also never understood the criticisms of the book... Racist, misogynist, blah, blah, blah... Rico was Filipino, "Jelly" was middle eastern, Shojumi was Japanese... And women were piloting starships due to their higher average mathematics scores and fine motor skills.

"The Moon is a Harsh Mistress" is also very good. I recommend it if you haven't read it yet.

MIke
 
some thoughts:
starship troopers-1 of the best 10 books,novels at least,ever written. the hollywood dips that made the movie tried to dis and spoof the book and it's ideas. they failed to do so. dune is another sci fi standout that gets the danger of compuers,AI and replacing humans with machines laid out. movies of it? so,so.
our century plus of a war economy has not done productive citizens any good-true. got a lot of people killed though. we need a strong detering defense not an empire benefiting our elites. yes,that would not be free of charge.
china is our enemy. i wouldn't call it communist. it is fascist by any definition i am aware of. calling it that would confuse people,esp on the left. those have no idea what fascism is but are happy to label anyone who disagrees with them as such.
our entire system of democratic/republican gov a la the bill of rights is gone. destroyed from within by people that are stupid,greedy,traitorous and egomaniacal. is it salvageable? i don't think so for all the reasons everybody here knows.
ayn rand's take on altruism is 100% correct.
enough bean breeze. whitney webb puts recent history in a much better framework than i ever could.