Liability Release Forms?

[dontstrokeme]

I am going to put on a match on private property and want to ensure the landowner and myself are free from liability and that the participants of the match are 100% responsible for themselves and that fact is acknowladged in ink.

Can someone email me a good general Liability Wavier/Release form or link to where one can be printed out?

Searched google but my foo must be low because I can only find specific free versions for other states or events.

 

[Jer]

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The problem is in this day and age there is NO such thing as being 100% relieved of liability no matter what you have them sign.

 

[USMCj]

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Take the wording from the ones you have found and write one up. Or contact an attorney to write one up.

 

[Phil1]

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Don't get too scared, but!

http://www.rangeinfo.org/resource_librar...mp;CAT=Business

http://www.mtdpa.com/custom/LiabilityWaiverforIDPAMatches.pdf

 

[dontstrokeme]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Phil1</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Don't get too scared, but!

http://www.rangeinfo.org/resource_librar...mp;CAT=Business

http://www.mtdpa.com/custom/LiabilityWaiverforIDPAMatches.pdf </div></div>

I realize there is always that asshole that will ruin it for everybody but I have to belive that the people that use this forum are a bit more old school and not so yuppie, civil sueing, Starbucks downin, Obama voting, :I was born in America I deserve this for free"......types!!

That second link will work perftctly!!! Thanks

 

[Lindy]

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Unfortunately, the people attending your match, I expect, will not be exclusively members of this web site. A liability release may deter some people, though, and it's worth doing even though, as has already pointed out, there is no assurance that you won't get sued - but it may help you if you do.

 

[500grains]

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Even with a release, it would be a good idea to get insurance to cover the activity.

 

[dontstrokeme]

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Who would I bring the insurance to? Nobody specificly listed as the Director of the match..myself really but not offically listed. If I brought insurance on myself for the match wouldn't that be an admission of liability?

 

[Jer]

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Who owns the land? That and it kind of sounds like you are arranging the who thing so as the organizer of said event I would say those are the two most likely to be the recipient of a law suit... should it happen.

 

[shark0311]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: dontstrokeme</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I am going to put on a match on private property and want to ensure the landowner and myself are free from liability and that the participants of the match are 100% responsible for themselves and that fact is acknowladged in ink.

Can someone email me a good general Liability Wavier/Release form or link to where one can be printed out?

Searched google but my foo must be low because I can only find specific free versions for other states or events.</div></div>

I am not a lawyer and I am not giving legal advice but that is exactly what you need... a lawyer.

 

[Graham]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Shark0311</div><div class="ubbcode-body">...that is exactly what you need... a lawyer.</div></div>Good advice. If for no other reason, she can explain to you what you need to know about the potential for liability and ask you who you want to protect, from whom, and against what kind of liability.

Start with knowing what your exposure is. Spend your money with a view to limiting the potential for claims that you can prevent.

 

[High Binder]

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Invalidating or side-stepping a "release of liability" is not only common, it's the norm.

Think about it, everybody who has ever had sued a doctor/hospital had also signed a release in order to have the treatment.

 

[Graham]

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I've thought about it: The release one signs is valid; it's a contract.

He needs to know what he can ask people to waive and what he can't.

 

[DustyJacket]

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As my brother tells me (retired lawyer, retired judge) you cannot sign away liability/responsibility BEFORE the accident/incident happens.

Furthermore, it is signed under duress, because if they don't sign they can't play.

That is two reasons why those liability releases are worthless, except for the unknowing who thinks it means something and decides not to sue.

Kind of like a cheap padlock that "keeps out th honest people".

 

[salter70]

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Talk to a lawyer in your state and area. Yes you can release liability prior to an incident, it is not signed under duress, they just cant participate if it isnt signed. Happens all the time at drag race/car events (for participants).

 

[Graham]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: DustyJacket</div><div class="ubbcode-body">As my brother tells me (retired lawyer, retired judge) you cannot sign away liability/responsibility BEFORE the accident/incident happens.</div></div>Yes you can. Perhaps what he means is that, in general, participants assume known risks regardless of what they sign.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: DustyJacket</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Furthermore, it is signed under duress, because if they don't sign they can't play.</div></div>That's not duress, it's only a one-sided contract.

 

[500grains]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: DustyJacket</div><div class="ubbcode-body">As my brother tells me (retired lawyer, retired judge) you cannot sign away liability/responsibility BEFORE the accident/incident happens.
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In Utah you can sign away liability for normally expected results of the activity in question. So for a mountain bike race on a ski run during the summer, the courts will uphold a liability release for crashing into other bikers, rocks, trees, etc. But liability still exists for an unexpected event. In order to find out which is which, go to trial then to the UT supreme court.