No the top pic is my old .243 I sold a while back and the bottom one is my old practice .308. It's been in that HTG stock for about 14 years. If I was looking for that style now I would be would be a Manners T. I actually have a Manners T3 on order to drop that rifle into so that all my rifles will be in T3s so they all feel the same for practice. That is the last one in a non Manners stock.