Pretty sure Doug Flutie and Frank Thomas hawk Nugenix during sportsball ad breaks which address this.
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For a while I was swimming 2 miles a day in a pool, in about 1:10 hours. I could just feel the high testosterone in my body, it felt great. At one point I had to keep a towel next to the pool, so when I got out I could cover myself up. This never happened when I was a cyclist or trail runner. So it is possible that if you tried a different workout system that your levels would go up.
TODAY...Get tested for H. pylori.
Oh, and the day after every ride on my dirt bike I get a huge boost. It's basically 1-2 hours of accelerated body weight squats since I ride 40-50 miles of whooped out sandy trails.
61 years old. 540 T last month. 380 all last year before I was treated for H. Pylori.
Regular sunlight exposure = up to 67% higher T. Look up seasonal testosterone syndrome.
Oh, and the day after every ride on my dirt bike I get a huge boost. It's basically 1-2 hours of accelerated body weight squats since I ride 40-50 miles of whooped out sandy trails.
61 years old. 540 T last month. 380 all last year before I was treated for H. Pylori.
Regular sunlight exposure = up to 67% higher T. Look up seasonal testosterone syndrome.
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So the super machismo men on here cracks me up. Big tough bad asses who have no clue what I do for work or what I've done for life choices. I come here because it's a collective group of men who probably are facing or have faced this issue. I'm 36, police work for 14 years doing high speed shit across the country, have kids, in good shape, work out every day. Not a lazy pos by any means. If you're not into striving to being your best and content with being a slob, that's all you but not me.
What I'm irritated with is the constant moving of the bar on where the "ranges and standards" are. I'm not trying to be the hulk and not trying to go about this in a shady manor. In a year, it's fallen 75pts alone. Bet half these douche posts on here are made by total fat asses who take some type of other medication, but yet this is "soy Kate shit". Nothing being sold on my end, just trying to keep myself kicking as I refuse to slow down.
What I'm irritated with is the constant moving of the bar on where the "ranges and standards" are. I'm not trying to be the hulk and not trying to go about this in a shady manor. In a year, it's fallen 75pts alone. Bet half these douche posts on here are made by total fat asses who take some type of other medication, but yet this is "soy Kate shit". Nothing being sold on my end, just trying to keep myself kicking as I refuse to slow down.
Hey, I am over 60. Take nothing to boost my testosterone and the lab test last year showed 576 total testosterone. I am just saying that a different type of exercise might boost your levels. Also, as mentioned, more sunshine might be helpful. One thing about stress, when I have been under high stress my gut feeling has been that my testosterone level was lower. It just felt lower, but I have no lab test to verify that.
Your primary care doc won’t help you out as long as you’re “normal”. You’re gonna need a specialist or holistic doctor who’s familiar with things.
Stop eating Soy…cold plunges
Damn it, man, you made me laugh out loud. Now, I have to explain to the cat why I was laughing.
I am closing up on 60 in a damned hurry. I am to get more blood drawn on Tuesday for a yearly spot check but low T is the least of my worries. As long as my PSA is low and I can keep my blood pressure in check, I am okay. Plus the Meniere's Disease. I have some Meclazine for when that acts up. Turns out it was coincidental with my high BP scare in February of 2022.
My wife is in a skilled nursing facility. What would I do with a boner besides giving my left hand something to do? Or my right hand if I want some "strange"?
My wife is in a skilled nursing facility. What would I do with a boner besides giving my left hand something to do? Or my right hand if I want some "strange"?
True. Try every other natural method first.
True. This should be on the blood panel.
True. In the excitement and action phases of sexual activity, testosterone spikes upward hard. After you blow your load, it will drop temporarily, but will level off higher than it started.
True. Go back to the prior quoted post. Do whatever you can to get healthy naturally.
Watch soft porn. If that doesn't work, try some fetish shit or hard-core porn and see if your flagpole works....
It's a natural part of getting older....but you don't wanna hear that...
Keep charging hard turbo...
Where's that YouTube video of the guy with the sheep....LOL
It's a natural part of getting older....but you don't wanna hear that...
Keep charging hard turbo...
Where's that YouTube video of the guy with the sheep....LOL
75 points strikes me as unusual. Can you think of any change in the last year that might account for that- new to road cycling, much more work /life stress? Perhaps dig deeper on the medical stuff by finding a good internal medicine specialist.
Did you get the poison jab? I'm just suggesting possibilities.
Now THAT'S torque!
Stop eating all the soyboy burgers
Listen, posting here isn't like calling into the Dave Ramsey Show, the host isn't going to tease more information out of you over a 20-minute-long segment. Either put enough info up front or expect to get dragged.
Don't know what "doing high speed shit across the country" entails and I don't really care. Your statement "work out every day" suggests that perhaps you are failing to rest and recover sufficiently, and combining that with what I assume are young kids and a stressful job makes it nearly certain. You're no longer in your 20s, and attempting to exercise that way by going flat-out every day is going to dig a hole that you will not crawl out of.
Assuming that this assumption is accurate, shifting your workout routine to more Zone 2 work (aerobic work at the lower lactate threshold - i.e. pretty damn easy) and a lot less Zone 5+ anaerobic work will give your body a chance to recovery more quickly and more thoroughly than if you're doing some sort of HIIIT/Crossfit WOD every day. Following the periodized model might have you doing 4 workouts/week in Z2 and a single one that pushes the redline. You can mix weight training into this as you wish, as long as you're doing what I'd consider to be typical strength-training sets (5-10 reps completed in less than a minute) and not super-setting. If you decide to do longer sets or super-sets, then you need to be watching your heart rate because it's easy to push it into the middle zones (particularly concerning because this level of work produces substantial stress but very little benefit to overall fitness).
You also need to stop substituting caffeine (or whatever other chemical) for sleep. That stuff worked in my 20s and early 30s, and then suddenly it did not. I'm not saying that this means 8+ hours/day (at least it certainly doesn't for me), but it does mean good "sleep hygiene" - no caffeine for 10-12 hours before bedtime, no screens or stressful work for 1-2 hours before bed, consistent wake-up times even on off days, etc. I imagine that your job might present challenges in this area.
If that doesn't do the trick and if there are no other underlying diseases, then maybe it's time to call up one of those "men's clinic" places that are advertising on the morning talk-radio shows. You mentioned living in West MI, so just tune into 106.9 and I'm sure an ad will come on in less than five minutes.
This is a worthwhile read as it relates to hypogonadism and exercise:
Hypogonadism in Exercising Males: Dysfunction or Adaptive-Regulatory Adjustment?
For decades researchers have reported men who engaged in intensive exercise training can develop low resting testosterone levels, alterations in their hypothalamic-pituitary-gonadal (HPG) axis, and display hypogonadism. Recently there is renewed interest ...
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The food products that most people eat kill testosterone and make you fat. Eat real food. Read Dave Asprey's book Bulletproof Diet. I started changing my food and dropped weaight so fast people started asking if I got cancer. My blood work improved also.
Food can be medicine. Processed food is equivalent to street drugs. Plastics contamination in food is dangerous
to people ! Especially to reproductive health. Plastics can mimic estrogen and plastics are used throughout food production and packaging.
to people ! Especially to reproductive health. Plastics can mimic estrogen and plastics are used throughout food production and packaging.
Last month the doc ran a full panel. No high cholesterol, no thyroid issues, noting out of the norm. Which is why she flat out said, I'm out of luck. This place is more of a holistic based Dr office which is what gave me hope. Every year I had to get a physical and even at 26yo my last doc even brought up that my test levels were "old man levels low" never pushed the issue as I was still kicking and humping away.
Fast forward to 2019 and my new doc said it was stress related due to the move and going through a divorce. Things settled and so I brought up the issue again. Don't eat out a lot, and if we do it's pretty healthy stuff. A lot of home cooking throughout the week and got out of police work to help with my dad before he's gone this past year. Because of that, I've been a stay at home dad which honestly has given me the best opportunity to work out, rest, and eat better than I ever have.
Take cold showers, do the ice plunge in the great lakes 3x a week now. Trying to be extra healthy to make sure there's no excuse to figure out what's up. Ive been fighting stupid issues like tennis elbow, sore joints, fatigue, and now sexual issues for about 2 years now. Best way to put it, I'm tired of being tired.
Maybe this is what 36 is like and if that's the case, whatever. But trying not to accept slowing down, espically raising boys who are straight fireballs. Hopefully this paints a better picture fo ya. I think the most frustrating thing is the inconsistency with lab numbers and what's considered in range. Every Dr office and blood draw place had different numbers. I even showed the Dr that and it went in one ear and right out the other.
Fast forward to 2019 and my new doc said it was stress related due to the move and going through a divorce. Things settled and so I brought up the issue again. Don't eat out a lot, and if we do it's pretty healthy stuff. A lot of home cooking throughout the week and got out of police work to help with my dad before he's gone this past year. Because of that, I've been a stay at home dad which honestly has given me the best opportunity to work out, rest, and eat better than I ever have.
Take cold showers, do the ice plunge in the great lakes 3x a week now. Trying to be extra healthy to make sure there's no excuse to figure out what's up. Ive been fighting stupid issues like tennis elbow, sore joints, fatigue, and now sexual issues for about 2 years now. Best way to put it, I'm tired of being tired.
Maybe this is what 36 is like and if that's the case, whatever. But trying not to accept slowing down, espically raising boys who are straight fireballs. Hopefully this paints a better picture fo ya. I think the most frustrating thing is the inconsistency with lab numbers and what's considered in range. Every Dr office and blood draw place had different numbers. I even showed the Dr that and it went in one ear and right out the other.
Sounds similar to my story. TRT helped. Definitely worth looking into. I'm 35 fyi.
Your T is obviously getting below the critical threshold if you give two shits about what the douchebags say.
Wait...here come some more now!
Doesn't care... but yet still here.... it's okay to admit you are too afraid to ask for help buddy.Your T is obviously getting below the critical threshold if you give two shits about what the douchebags say.
Wait...here come some more now!
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Getting prescribed T is so easy. Go to one of those male health websites, do a blood panel, tele-health with Danjar who is 100% going to write you a prescription, order your T and then take the Mrs. to pound town.
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Be real careful what you put in your body. Especially be Real Sure if you do any kind of organized sports. Low T seems to be a popular treatment among some doctors. But it’s a four year ban from sports if caught using it. The USADA and the WADA get really tacky about taking Testosterone drugs and any drug or supplement that might increase same. They have issued 5 (five) exemptions world wide for testosterone treatment. And those gentleman had virtually no testosterone due to medical injuries, disease.
But there is a larger question here. Testosterone meds can cause changes in behaviors, and not talking about Nice behaviors. Further, there is possible issues with the prostrate. It’s a slippery slope that sometimes makes a low t diagnosis not so bad. Though I am no doctor, low t is not No T. (which needs to be addressed)
I speak from experience, I too have low T, and have been hounded by some of the med pros to take the testosterone supplement. Four years from cycling, ain’t worth it. Fortunately, my current med pro only believes in Meds when they are absolutely necessary . (Doc, my hematocrit levels are so low, and it wouild really help my cycling if we could get them closer to 50, instead of 39) (below 35 is considered below normal)
But there is a larger question here. Testosterone meds can cause changes in behaviors, and not talking about Nice behaviors. Further, there is possible issues with the prostrate. It’s a slippery slope that sometimes makes a low t diagnosis not so bad. Though I am no doctor, low t is not No T. (which needs to be addressed)
I speak from experience, I too have low T, and have been hounded by some of the med pros to take the testosterone supplement. Four years from cycling, ain’t worth it. Fortunately, my current med pro only believes in Meds when they are absolutely necessary . (Doc, my hematocrit levels are so low, and it wouild really help my cycling if we could get them closer to 50, instead of 39) (below 35 is considered below normal)
It's simple. Eat good food, get exercise of some sort. Get rest and do what you can to reduce stress. Do not drink to excess, avoid smoking.
Then, sometime between age 70 and 100, you will die.
You are welcome, internet.
Then, sometime between age 70 and 100, you will die.
You are welcome, internet.
Glad to hear you're undergoing some stress reduction and spend time with your kids.
How are you structuring your workouts? Are your "stupid issues" the result of low T, or are they the result of the same overexertion that's causing the low T? I'd want to figure that out before going on gear.
Honestly it depends on how I'm feeling that day. I dont go super heavy any more due to injuries. Work up to max, then numerous workouts for said body category till failure. Mixed cardio ev ery other day switching between biking, running, stairs etc. The issues are constantly evolving. Tennis elbow for two years, joint soreness that lasts a few days, inconsistency in sleeping patterns. Shoot by 630p till about 830 I'm shot and I'll fall asleep anywhere. It's like clockwork. Then by 9 I'm wide awake. I'm usually in bed around 11p up at 7. Don't smoke, don't get drunk but have a glass of scotch on the weekends. No medications of any type and no cvid shots at all.
I think what others imagine is someone wanting to get slammed with meds to cure non issues. I've been saying this to every Dr that I'd be happy with even a boost up to the 600 range. If it were just for getting jacked, I would've done it a while ago but trying to do it as safely and reasonably as possible.
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Have you considered this is more mental than physical?
No judgement here, just relaying what I've learned from doctors.
If your wife is supporting the family, and you are staying at home watching the kids, the masculine/feminine roles have switched 180º. She may not find you as attractive as a man who provides for his family. You may also be feeling this unnatural role reversal and your body is responding.
Having family in police work, I know how nasty it can get and the horrible things you get exposed to in addition to the hatred many officers encounter and the overall stress of the job. Stress can be one of the most destructive forces on our bodies.
Also, regular sleep is crazy important for men.
Not sure if any of this will help T levels but it can't hurt:
1. Get regular sleep. Don't take naps. Not so important you go to bed at the same time each night, but it is very important to wake up and the same time each day--no sleeping in.
2. Eliminate sugar from your diet, including bread/carbs. Bread converts to sugar the instant it comes into contact with saliva. Meat and veggies for the win!
3. No caffeine 10 hours before bedtime.
4. Drink electrolyte water. Hydration is more important than you think and it is not just about water, and almost no one is correctly hydrated.
5. NO ALCOHOL. Alcohol is a poison, it destroys our bodies.
6. Working out too much will actually destroy testosterone. 6 sets of 10 reps, in laboratory setting, gave participants the highest testosterone boost. More sets/reps lead to a reduction in T.
7. Look up what foods boost T naturally and also what foods are healthy for men's prostates.
8. Take apple cider vinegar, three teaspoons per day.
Again, not sure if any of this will help T levels, but they will all lead to a higher quality of living.
No judgement here, just relaying what I've learned from doctors.
If your wife is supporting the family, and you are staying at home watching the kids, the masculine/feminine roles have switched 180º. She may not find you as attractive as a man who provides for his family. You may also be feeling this unnatural role reversal and your body is responding.
Having family in police work, I know how nasty it can get and the horrible things you get exposed to in addition to the hatred many officers encounter and the overall stress of the job. Stress can be one of the most destructive forces on our bodies.
Also, regular sleep is crazy important for men.
Not sure if any of this will help T levels but it can't hurt:
1. Get regular sleep. Don't take naps. Not so important you go to bed at the same time each night, but it is very important to wake up and the same time each day--no sleeping in.
2. Eliminate sugar from your diet, including bread/carbs. Bread converts to sugar the instant it comes into contact with saliva. Meat and veggies for the win!
3. No caffeine 10 hours before bedtime.
4. Drink electrolyte water. Hydration is more important than you think and it is not just about water, and almost no one is correctly hydrated.
5. NO ALCOHOL. Alcohol is a poison, it destroys our bodies.
6. Working out too much will actually destroy testosterone. 6 sets of 10 reps, in laboratory setting, gave participants the highest testosterone boost. More sets/reps lead to a reduction in T.
7. Look up what foods boost T naturally and also what foods are healthy for men's prostates.
8. Take apple cider vinegar, three teaspoons per day.
Again, not sure if any of this will help T levels, but they will all lead to a higher quality of living.
You're not getting it that cheap through a doctor and apparently don't want bloodwork to go along with it
About 6 years ago I got diagnosed with multiple endocrine neoplasia type I (MEN1). I had all the low T symptoms but didn’t think anything of it because it was my “normal”. Shortly after, blood work and a CT scan diagnosed me with a MEN1-related brain tumor. Some chemo later, my tumor is in remission and my T is naturally in the upper 800s. I felt great and put off getting additional scans until earlier this year, which found two large MEN1-related tumors on my pancreas. I had most of my pancreas removed this July, and found out I “won the lottery” because the post surgical biopsy labeled both stage II, with no evidence of metastasis in my lymph nodes.
Point is: go to an endocrine specialist and get all of your hormones checked. Low T might be a symptom of something bigger going wrong.
Born and raised. Moved to Texas for 14 years, now back in muskegon area.
Dang man, glad you got it squared away.
I agree with Hippy Steve. I and a non-blood relative both have hyperprolactinemia which causes your pituitary gland to become it's own tumor. Through a hormone feedback loop it causes your testes to stop testosterone production. If it goes on very long, your nuts are done. I got diagnosed 20 years ago with a level of 53. Women have similar levels. I've been on testosterone ever since. I don't overuse it as I'd like to avoid the side effects like thick blood, higher prostate cancer risk etc. I have to take it just to be somewhat normal. Without it you become depressed, anxious, tired, fatigued, emotional. I actually feel that way a lot anyway. Don't believe the "normal" range either. Just because its "normal" doesn't mean its ideal. These days it's normal to be fat, lazy, and a psycho. I hope you can figure it out because it's been a horrible issue for me over the years as even though I treat it the best I can, I still feel 20 years older than my peers.
