Who is the GA Precision of the M1a platform?
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Re: M1a, M21, M14 custom builds.
These guys are pretty good with the M14/M1A.
http://www.smithenterprise.com/products02.html
These guys are pretty good with the M14/M1A.
http://www.smithenterprise.com/products02.html
Re: M1a, M21, M14 custom builds.
Found the via the google machine. Just wondering if they are the bees knees or if there is another game in town.
Found the via the google machine. Just wondering if they are the bees knees or if there is another game in town.
Re: M1a, M21, M14 custom builds.
I would say that Smith Enterprises is at the top rung but you are going to pay for it. But then again, if you are trying to get top accuracy out of the M1A platform you are going to pay for it. Going from 1.5 - 1 MOA to .5 - .75 is going to cost you anyways. And above all, you have to be able to drive that system to be able to get those numbers. I love the M1A but I have moved on to the AR systems as I just found it easier to work with.
I would say that Smith Enterprises is at the top rung but you are going to pay for it. But then again, if you are trying to get top accuracy out of the M1A platform you are going to pay for it. Going from 1.5 - 1 MOA to .5 - .75 is going to cost you anyways. And above all, you have to be able to drive that system to be able to get those numbers. I love the M1A but I have moved on to the AR systems as I just found it easier to work with.
Re: M1a, M21, M14 custom builds.
Smith Enterprise or Fulton Armory are both excellent builders. The M1A is more difficult to build for accuracy than the AR15 platform. As said previously, it's possible, just more expensive and more parts. The Fulton build that I have consistently shoots 1/2 MOA or less, but it's an expensive build and will require tuning and replacement every few thousand rounds.
Smith Enterprise or Fulton Armory are both excellent builders. The M1A is more difficult to build for accuracy than the AR15 platform. As said previously, it's possible, just more expensive and more parts. The Fulton build that I have consistently shoots 1/2 MOA or less, but it's an expensive build and will require tuning and replacement every few thousand rounds.
Re: M1a, M21, M14 custom builds.
I'd say my local gun smith has the M14 down, but your a long way off. I recently shot a cold bore 5 round group my last outing placing 4 rounds on top of one another in less than a quarter sized hole, and pulling 5th about an 1.5" right. That was at 300yards iron sights off a bipod with my M21. Yeah I think he can build a good rifle, but there otta be someone out there closer to you that can do the same. Anyone I ever heard of making a great rifle is this side of the Mississippi.
Gus Fisher is a Marine I admire for his knowlege of this rifle. I followed a lot of his insight when I worked it out with my smith on just how I wanted my rifle done.
note: As far as I know SEI don't bed their rifle builds. You want it bedded with something like steel bed for the best it can be accuracy and durability wise.
I'd say my local gun smith has the M14 down, but your a long way off. I recently shot a cold bore 5 round group my last outing placing 4 rounds on top of one another in less than a quarter sized hole, and pulling 5th about an 1.5" right. That was at 300yards iron sights off a bipod with my M21. Yeah I think he can build a good rifle, but there otta be someone out there closer to you that can do the same. Anyone I ever heard of making a great rifle is this side of the Mississippi.
Gus Fisher is a Marine I admire for his knowlege of this rifle. I followed a lot of his insight when I worked it out with my smith on just how I wanted my rifle done.
note: As far as I know SEI don't bed their rifle builds. You want it bedded with something like steel bed for the best it can be accuracy and durability wise.
Re: M1a, M21, M14 custom builds.
those of you that are shooting .5 to .75 are you using factory match or hand loads?
those of you that are shooting .5 to .75 are you using factory match or hand loads?
Re: M1a, M21, M14 custom builds.
the GA precision of the M1A is GA Precision, a few years ago George reworked and accurized my M1A, dont know if he still will mess with em though, worth a call.
the GA precision of the M1A is GA Precision, a few years ago George reworked and accurized my M1A, dont know if he still will mess with em though, worth a call.
Re: M1a, M21, M14 custom builds.
Clint Fowler would be at the top of my list.
gunsmithing.co
He did 3 builds for me. All are Great shooters!
Clint Fowler would be at the top of my list.
gunsmithing.co
He did 3 builds for me. All are Great shooters!
Re: M1a, M21, M14 custom builds.
Three of the best in the business have already been mentioned, Gus, Ted and Smith Ent. There are other good ones out there, Phil Arrington and some others, but I think the names of the best have been dropped.
Three of the best in the business have already been mentioned, Gus, Ted and Smith Ent. There are other good ones out there, Phil Arrington and some others, but I think the names of the best have been dropped.
Re: M1a, M21, M14 custom builds.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: cp3head</div><div class="ubbcode-body">those of you that are shooting .5 to .75 are you using factory match or hand loads? </div></div>
I havn't used handloads in my M1A's yet. I'm getting below 1/2 MOA with HSM 168gr AMAX and Federal Gold Medal 168gr. All of my M1A's and bolt rifles shoot the HSM better than Federal.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: cp3head</div><div class="ubbcode-body">those of you that are shooting .5 to .75 are you using factory match or hand loads? </div></div>
I havn't used handloads in my M1A's yet. I'm getting below 1/2 MOA with HSM 168gr AMAX and Federal Gold Medal 168gr. All of my M1A's and bolt rifles shoot the HSM better than Federal.
Re: M1a, M21, M14 custom builds.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: cp3head</div><div class="ubbcode-body">those of you that are shooting .5 to .75 are you using factory match or hand loads? </div></div>
A lot of the time I'm not shooting either. I'm shooting rather inexpensive 150gr American Tactical brand rounds for practice. My rifle really likes them for some reason. Inside 300yds they squeak out some nice groups for me. However I get stellar performance out of Backhills 175gr, TAP or Hornady Amax 168gr or Federal GMM 168gr so far. Blackhills 175gr being the one to beat in my rifle. I want to try Southwest Ammunition this summer. I need to order some. I haven't had any hand loads to try as of yet. Still need a few things to start rolling my own. It is often said rolling your own gets the best results. If it gets any better, I'd have a perma smile like the joker.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: cp3head</div><div class="ubbcode-body">those of you that are shooting .5 to .75 are you using factory match or hand loads? </div></div>
A lot of the time I'm not shooting either. I'm shooting rather inexpensive 150gr American Tactical brand rounds for practice. My rifle really likes them for some reason. Inside 300yds they squeak out some nice groups for me. However I get stellar performance out of Backhills 175gr, TAP or Hornady Amax 168gr or Federal GMM 168gr so far. Blackhills 175gr being the one to beat in my rifle. I want to try Southwest Ammunition this summer. I need to order some. I haven't had any hand loads to try as of yet. Still need a few things to start rolling my own. It is often said rolling your own gets the best results. If it gets any better, I'd have a perma smile like the joker.
Re: M1a, M21, M14 custom builds.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: cp3head</div><div class="ubbcode-body">those of you that are shooting .5 to .75 are you using factory match or hand loads? </div></div>
I shoot hand loads out of mine.
Just remember you have to be careful about what powder you select for the ol' M14. If you use powder that is too slow, you can damage your op-rod by running the gas port pressure too high at the gas port. Faster powder won't run it as high as slower powder will so, you have to stay with a medium burn rate. I've stuck with IMR 4895 but, there are other powders that will work also.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: cp3head</div><div class="ubbcode-body">those of you that are shooting .5 to .75 are you using factory match or hand loads? </div></div>
I shoot hand loads out of mine.
Just remember you have to be careful about what powder you select for the ol' M14. If you use powder that is too slow, you can damage your op-rod by running the gas port pressure too high at the gas port. Faster powder won't run it as high as slower powder will so, you have to stay with a medium burn rate. I've stuck with IMR 4895 but, there are other powders that will work also.
Re: M1a, M21, M14 custom builds.
LRB Arms with there M25 receiver.
LRB Arms with there M25 receiver.
Re: M1a, M21, M14 custom builds.
I sent you a PM for a Smith here in Western MT.
Mike
I sent you a PM for a Smith here in Western MT.
Mike
Re: M1a, M21, M14 custom builds.
I sent you a PM for a Smith here in Western MT.
Mike
I sent you a PM for a Smith here in Western MT.
Mike
Re: M1a, M21, M14 custom builds.
Anyone shooting Hornady Superformance 150 gr in those M14's?
Anyone shooting Hornady Superformance 150 gr in those M14's?
Re: M1a, M21, M14 custom builds.
David Christopher Ferrante
Heart Mountain Precision Machining
307) 254-1555
870 Road 19
Powell, WY. 82435
This guy has the midas touch with the M1A / Garand platforms
David Christopher Ferrante
Heart Mountain Precision Machining
307) 254-1555
870 Road 19
Powell, WY. 82435
This guy has the midas touch with the M1A / Garand platforms
