F T/R Competition Make up my mind for me please

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Ok...What to do here? I have been shooting all my life and have gotten into the f class at the local club..It is open class anything goes I guess,Any caliber,prone or bench....I started out with my 22-250 bull barrel and heavy bell and carlson stock..Did fair with it..Then rebarrel it to 30 inch 308 bull barrel..Did pretty good with that also...Then I make a 223 on a stevens 200 action with a 26 inch bull Mc Gowin barrel in 1/9 twist.I put this on a standard stock,barrel floated,etc,rifle basic trigger..Daid it all..I can not get comfortable with this smaller stock...So I am thinking about switching barrel from the 308 to the 223..I don't have a heavy stock for the stevens action with proper hole spaceing..
What I need is to make up my mind which cal to shoot and stay with it or I will never get used to it..So which cal do you all think I should stay with..I am going crazy with this switching back and forth....I know the 223 is the cheapest to shoot and with the money I save from buying bullets I could put aside for a better scope..Thanks for any advice..Forgot to mention the match is only shot at 250 yards...But would like to be able to use the rifle I pick out to at least 500 if needed...Dam I am so confused...
 
#2
Re: Make up my mind for me please

What distance?

Shooting most of the overbore cartridges is going to eat barrels like popcorn, esp with the long strings we shoot in F class.

If you are shooting 600 yds the 223 gives up little to the 308; however, if you are planning to shoot 1000 yards then the 223 is an exercise in masochism, go with the 308.

Shooting the 308 you are shooting against other 308s so the field is even, the barrels should last you an easy 3000 rounds before the accuracy fades.
 
#3
Re: Make up my mind for me please

as I mentioned the distance is only 250 here it's an open class I guess they call it...and there is another club that shoots only at something like 180 yards? nothing long range around here that I know of..Thanks
 
#5
Re: Make up my mind for me please

Personally I'm getting a .223 barrel for a Savage F class gun to run at 600 and less in my club's matches and clinics. Cheaper to shoot and should work as well. Now I just need to get off my arse and get a prefit from somewhere, and a set of go-no-go gauges.
 
#7
Re: Make up my mind for me please

A) You know me, as well as Scott, Kevin, and Dan.

B) Dan (Deadeye here. Darkeagle Custom, Inc.) put together a .223 for Kevin that intimidates the best of us.

This Winter would be a good time for you to have Dan give your .223 a lookover (workover?). Talk to Kevin if you have doubts.

I get my bullets, brass, etc., from Mike's in Horseheads. If anybody can provide them, he can. I use PPU (Prvi-Partizan) .223 Match ammo, 69gr and 75gr for training my Grandkids. The brass is excellent for reloading (with basic prep, like reaming flash holes), the ammo is good enough for training, and for the kids, good enough to score in the 150's-170's for the same matches we shoot, out of my Stag Model 6.

Greg
 
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Re: Make up my mind for me please

yeah I know you guys....Thanks for the heads up about mikes.I have been there....I checked on the web last night...No bullets anywhere...Brass is scarse as well.Gun broker has a lot of brass.But I don't need a 1000......
 
#10
Re: Make up my mind for me please

If your choice is between a .223 or .308 out to six hundred then the .223 should work fine. One is shooting a lot of rounds in F class and recoil does harm. If you are open to another caliber then a 6BR will be very hard to beat. When you add up cost, recoil, and inherent accuracy the BR is always at the top.
 
#12
As I said earlier I would take a .308 over a .223 any day. Certainly the .308 costs more to feed but a good barrel will last at least 2000 rounds. If you can pick any round and you are shooting at 250 yards then a 6PPC will shoot the wings off a .308. A PPC is cheap to shoot and it is truly extremely accurate. I have shot a PPC to 500 yards and if the conditions are good it is a winner. If you have to go beyond 500 then the 6BR is the answer. Remember you are only putting a hole in paper. You don't need any real energy. The 6Dasher is also serious. The Dasher is cheap to shoot and it has many records out to 1000. I have shot all these calibers so I feel I have an opinion. I have put on shoots at 500 yards and the caliber had to be 6 or larger. The PPC came in and that was the end of that match. Most shooters have never shot a truly accurate rifle. A five shot group with a PPC under a quarter inch is seldom a match winner. In todays matches the winner will be in the ones and lower 2's. Groups in the zeros are not common but they usually happen at any benchrest shoot that is larger than ten shooters. Good luck with your shopping.
 
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