Maryland steps inline, falls on its face.

[2ndamendfan]

I am starting to feel ill with how the dominoes are falling with regularity. It is like going to lunch with the office and first person who orders says "I'll have the special" and for the next 60 seconds all you hear is "i'll have the special", "i'll have the special","i'll have the special","i'll have the special","i'll have the special".........when the only one who knows what the special is, is the first person who ordered.

http://www.guns.com/2018/04/25/maryland-governor-signs-bump-stock-ban-bills-to-up-firearm-seizures/

PS. Oh and the NRA is in a fight with a cooler manufacture, and has now "doubled down" on their version of the facts while the above shit is going down.

 

[black max]

I am starting to feel ill with how the dominoes are falling with regularity. It is like going to lunch with the office and first person who orders says "I'll have the special" and for the next 60 seconds all you hear is "i'll have the special", "i'll have the special","i'll have the special","i'll have the special","i'll have the special".........when the only one who knows what the special is, is the first person who ordered.

http://www.guns.com/2018/04/25/maryland-governor-signs-bump-stock-ban-bills-to-up-firearm-seizures/

PS. Oh and the NRA is in a fight with a cooler manufacture, and has now "doubled down" on their version of the facts while the above shit is going down.

The NRA is no better than the money grubbing politicos it's supposed to be protecting us from. They have lost their way...

 

[Former0302]

Yeah and the irony is that the MD Governor is a Republican who was elected with the help of the 2A support community. He has sold us out almost every chance he's gotten.

In addition to this BS, we also have legislation up for signing that allows a family member (or a police officer after a preliminary investigation) to have a hearing (which the defendant isn't privy to) where a judge can authorize the confiscation of the defendant's firearms.

Why are the failings of the Democratic policies always coming back to further erode our rights?!?!?

 

[deersniper]

The NRA is worthless.
At least SAF and Stephen Stamboulieh (aka “Nolo Contendre” sue and get things changed.

 

[ExT]

In this political atmosphere, I don’t think centralizing resources to the NRA is a good idea, especially when its credibility is being targeted by the gun grabbers. We need to show them the NRA is not the only civil organization that stands and fight for our God given right

 

[deersniper]

Something to keep in mind when people get their broad brushes out for people in/from commie states. The rats/gov "workers"/immigrants f up whole states. Maryland gets a Dem or Rino governor every time because of 3-4 counties and the dark city
Look at NY and what a couple counties forced on the whole state

 

[tna9001]

At least the Governor likes puppies.

 

[supercorndogs]

Another problem we seem to have is fucking retards from our own team shitting all over the NRA. You think bitching on a forum does anything close to what the NRA does with your 20 bucks. If you think the NRA has not been fighting court battles with our money, then you just aren't paying attention.

 

[mdmp5]

Something to keep in mind when people get their broad brushes out for people in/from commie states. The rats/gov "workers"/immigrants f up whole states. Maryland gets a Dem or Rino governor every time because of 3-4 counties and the dark city
Look at NY and what a couple counties forced on the whole stateView attachment 6898049View attachment 6898050View attachment 6898051

Just about all the states look like that. Look at Maine. An entire state filled with hicks and hunters, yet blue because of fucking portland

 

[deersniper]

^ yup all these states have parasite cities that enslave the rest of the state and kill freedom
Baltimore gets tons of money from the counties and never feels the consequences of its job killing and resident displacing policies.

 

[Veer_G]

I am starting to feel ill with how the dominoes are falling with regularity. It is like going to lunch with the office and first person who orders says "I'll have the special" and for the next 60 seconds all you hear is "i'll have the special", "i'll have the special","i'll have the special","i'll have the special","i'll have the special".........when the only one who knows what the special is, is the first person who ordered.

http://www.guns.com/2018/04/25/maryland-governor-signs-bump-stock-ban-bills-to-up-firearm-seizures/

PS. Oh and the NRA is in a fight with a cooler manufacture, and has now "doubled down" on their version of the facts while the above shit is going down.

Cole slaw for how many?



That's ... bananas!

 

[Fig]

Just because you see it on SH doesn't mean it's their top priority.

Our legal system works on precedent. Suing every time the anti-2ndA makes a move would be idiotic, because any loss sets a precedent and can be devastating. Ask the left about Heller. They're still gnashing their teeth. That was the first SCOTUS case in decades, and it was carefully chosen, and carefully marshaled through. It isn't just how good a case it is either. It's the venue and the judges as well. Yes, I want to charge in and F up the left's efforts, but it isn't that simple. You have to fight smart, and you have to have people on the inside.

When you see how little money the NRA actually gives to politicians it's pretty amazing how far above their weight they punch. It's the 6 million of us that are their strength, not your $20 (though they do aggressively want it!).

You can bash them all you want, but you are doing it right along side Chucky Shummer and his cadre of totalitarians. There is a reason they hate the NRA and demonize them constantly (along with some of you). There is legit criticism, no doubt, but look who you're making common cause with. Often I am just as influenced by how vehemently my political opponents oppose something as I am by how much I support it.

 

[...]

At least the Governor likes puppies.

that fat fuck probably thought it was lunch

 

[mdmp5]

that fat fuck probably thought it was lunch

I was thinking along the same lines. Not the healthiest of fellows I've seen. All swollen and shit. Probably has candida in his abdominal folds.

 

[Fig]

It's interesting. When you Google him the only images that come up are headshots. Google Christie and that isn't the case at all. They try (they don't have to try hard) to make sure you know he's morbidly obese.

I wonder if it's the media pretending he's not a fat fuck, or if it's google curating the web so he doesn't look like a fat fuck?

Inquiring minds...

 

[Frankly]

It's interesting. When you Google him the only images that come up are headshots. Google Christie and that isn't the case at all. They try (they don't have to try hard) to make sure you know he's morbidly obese.

I wonder if it's the media pretending he's not a fat fuck, or if it's google curating the web so he doesn't look like a fat fuck?

Inquiring minds...

Christie ran for president and is a loudmouth, that may account for his greater presence. Not many people outside of NJ like him at all, he's a joke to both Republicans and Democrats.

 

[XLR308]

At least the Governor likes puppies.

I'm not sure he likes puppies by the looks of his fat ASS the dog might be a snack.

 

[Frankly]

I'm certainly not a fan of these incremental gun restrictions but... the larger picture is that not only are guns going to be more and more restricted but the entire culture and society is shifting towards a strong, authoritarian, centralized bureaucracy that colludes with monopolistic multinational corporations to keep everyone consuming. If we were honest and insightful we'd call it national socialism.

Over half of the USA population depends on government for employment or benefits. Tell me how we aren't socialist?

And while we call ourselves capitalist, most small businesses are either service orientated or subcontracting to a larger monopoly. When that farmer signs a contract to supply Walmart and has to follow their pricing and dictates are they still acting as a independent business? Same with machine shops supplying parts to a larger corporation who in turn supply the government. Or if I build homes or sling lattes for teachers and government IT subcontractors how am I not ultimately dependent on government money? How much of the economy is actually free? (10% if that)

Worse I don't see an acceptable solution as our demographic changes are baked in and the future generations are only going to be more and more government dependent and urbanized. We could have a perfectly great revolution but we'd still have a population of soyboys in the end. Unless it's such a radical revolt that our major cities are decimated we're still going to be led by large urban areas.

So $20 to the NRA to slow the flow while keeping your distance from cities and government teat is the best current option. Raising your kids to be as independent as possible and earning/saving as much personal wealth as possible is your best defense. Stocking ammo and putting aside a few guns and having some bitcoin and junk silver is all great in theory but having $$$ in the bank is job #1.

But don't tell me some political movement is somehow going to show people the light and bring on a utopian society where we can have all the guns we want and everybody respects each others' rights to be left alone.

 

[Limedust]

Something to keep in mind when people get their broad brushes out for people in/from commie states. The rats/gov "workers"/immigrants f up whole states. Maryland gets a Dem or Rino governor every time because of 3-4 counties and the dark city
Look at NY and what a couple counties forced on the whole stateView attachment 6898049View attachment 6898050View attachment 6898051

So acreage should get the vote now?

 

[Veer_G]

Up shows another fuckin' irritant.

 

[deersniper]

So acreage should get the vote now?

You should have to own property to vote. You should have no vote if you are on welfare

and cities that aren't self sufficient should have no vote whatsoever.

 

[Frankly]

You should have to own property to vote. You should have no vote if you are on welfare

and cities that aren't self sufficient should have no vote whatsoever.

I'll go you one further and suggest that if you're on welfare you get mandatory birth control and if you're a felon you get sterilized.

And 18 months to two years of public service before you get citizenship and voting rights. Then we could lay off millions of civil servants and eliminate taxes.

What flavor pie is in your sky? lol

 

[deersniper]

Yeah but there was a point in history where you had to own property and be male to vote.

That alone would solve most of our problems

 

[oneshot86]

You should have to own property to vote. You should have no vote if you are on welfare

and cities that aren't self sufficient should have no vote whatsoever.

your post struck me

at first i was , right on, no vote for you. BUT, i thought about my dad.

my dad was disabled when i was a kid, if it werent for food stamps, we were done. my dad is an honorable man, why shouldnt he vote???

really, why not???

what we need to do is kick the bums off the food train, stop the waste...

stop the waste... really isnt hard to do, just wont be popular...

i would super jump on the fradulent vets, i really hate the waste some of our fellow vets partake in

 

[deersniper]

^thats church's and charities job to provide help to those who really need it.

Not to rob all the workers at gun point to support the ghetto queens and all the new fake disabled.

And if you don't have skin in the game most are just going to vote for more more more.

 

[Fig]

I agree, but that's not my point. They're both public figures. You would think there would be more than just glamor shots of Hogan, but there aren't. Almost all of them look like curated PR pictures. I don't see an unflattering one (although it's hard to flatter that mug). There are plenty of Christie, also a fat fuck, that are extremely unflattering, angry, make him look unhinged, etc. I'm not being conspiratorial. I am making a factual comment.

My guess would simply be that the media loves Hogan and hates Christie, and it has little or nothing to do with the internet.

I'll go you one further and suggest that if you're on welfare you get mandatory birth control and if you're a felon you get sterilized.

And 18 months to two years of public service before you get citizenship and voting rights. Then we could lay off millions of civil servants and eliminate taxes.

What flavor pie is in your sky? lol

i don’t know, but I’ll eat that pie!

 

[deersniper]

Like in Nebraska and other places out west where they vote to build giant schools and school stadiums and tax the hell out of the landowners to pay for it. Meanwhile the townies that voted to ok it don't pay for anything.

 

[Fig]

There’s a big difference between taking care of people who can’t take care of themselves, and taking care of people who choose not to take care of themselves...a big difference.

 

[Limedust]

Interesting. Enforced breeding practices, sterilization ... voting rights abolished. All based on wealth. Seems like the Red areas would stand to be almost completely disenfranchised.

 

[Frankly]

Without posting an epic, the government does a lousy job at nearly everything especially charity.

What started all this was a flood. Young Herbert Hoover was the Fed who organized the government's relief effort, and the goodwill he generated propelled him into the White House. All of this was because women had just won the voting franchise and they rewarded sensitive caring do-gooders with their votes. All the years prior nobody thought it was the government's job to bail out people too poor or stupid enough to build on a obvious floodplain.

Why burden taxpayers with paying for people who were irresponsible? Even the poor could have simply moved on, the floodplain is not a place to live. Doh!

No offense to all the New Orleans urban dwellers who didn't know any better.

In the past every town had a Community Chest as well as stronger, more active churches. When somebody fell on hard times there were people who knew them personally. Obviously the scumbags didn't get help and the deserving did. Nobody had to meet federal guidelines and 90-100% of the donations went to help the people as opposed to the government that's lucky to get 50% of the budget where it needs to go.

That is considered unfair these days, and our media will point to examples of injustice. Lots of school kids your age have performed the play, Thornton Wilder's, "Hometown" (I think) and read books like. "To Kill a Mockingbird" where the authors criticize small town, rural American life. We hear about lynchings, racism, the Klan, bigotry, etc. while truth be told these were far more rare than we're led to believe. For instance, in the late 1800s there were more whites lynched than blacks, and of those I assume that the majority were actually guilty. Not every rapist and horsethief was innocent!

For instance if a young girl got pregnant, the community disapproved and it wasn't pleasant but the end result was that not many girls got pregnant! Now teenage pregnancy is celebrated and 80% of Black babies are born to single mothers (and all the other races are catching up too). What's the net result? Maybe shaming a few girls (and boys too) is better than multi-generational perpetual poverty and misery?

So I'm sorry for whomever's family needed assistance but no, during that period they shouldn't also be voting.

 

[Frankly]

Interesting. Enforced breeding practices, sterilization ... voting rights abolished. All based on wealth. Seems like the Red areas would stand to be almost completely disenfranchised.

Na it's more like the Roman Republic, the most successful and long lasting one in history. You become a citizen based on service, not wealth. Even that got corrupted but it took hundreds of years longer than our 240 years of existence (as the USA).

Seems easy enough to avoid not having kids if you're on the dole, in rehab, etc. It's hardly a breeding program but given that idiots are outbreeding smart people 10 to 1 if you don't do something, eventually there's bad consequences.

 

[Fig]

Interesting. Enforced breeding practices, sterilization ... voting rights abolished. All based on wealth. Seems like the Red areas would stand to be almost completely disenfranchised.

I know, right. Sounds like the entire Democrat I platform pre Johnson. It is in fact their current platform, and it’s been successful like their open one never was. They don’t steralize, they just murder in the womb. They don’t abridge voting rights, they just make it impossible to control or prevent cheating. They’re only for denying the poor rights. There’s always a work around for the wealthy. You will get the civil war you are demanding.

 

[Redmanss]

Holy shit, some of you should stop and listen to what you're saying... Property ownership to vote? That shit never made it postbellum, the days of Jackson brought about the common man being an equal citizen and eliminated the country only being run by the wealthy. Same with religious tests, another bullshit qualifier right along with poll taxes and not letting women or races other than white vote. Even The Islamic Republic of Afghanistan has better suffrage rights than that.

Most of the issues with Congress could be solved through term limits, restoring the Senate to its original state by abolishing the 17th Amendment, and removing all Congressional exclusions to the laws they pass, as well as requiring all bills to have an up or down vote on record before each winter recess rather than this bullshit kicking the can down the road like they do these days. It's like they do fucking nothing anymore...

 

[Fig]

I agree that’s not the answer, but this system stops working when people with no skin in the game vote themselves generous gifts from the treasury. It collapses. We are moving inexorably towards an economic collapse. Today if interest rates jumped to 1970s rates the national debt would consume the budget...today. Collapse. What’s your solution?

 

[Frankly]

Lots of Jeb Bush proposals here.... high energy!

 

[tna9001]

I agree that’s not the answer, but this system stops working when people with no skin in the game vote themselves generous gifts from the treasury. It collapses. We are moving inexorably towards an economic collapse. Today if interest rates jumped to 1970s rates the national debt would consume the budget...today. Collapse. What’s your solution?

The first step is stopping the deficit-funded tax cuts for corporations and the rich.

 

[Redmanss]

I don't know what the solution is, but I know the solution does not include throwing away freedoms. Same goes with the gun debate, we're not getting rid of our freedoms there because there's problems otherwise.

Both are complicated problems, and both will require complicated solutions for our elected law makers to solve. I just want them to do the job they were elected to do.

 

[Limedust]

My solution ... incremental change that doesn't disenfranchise citizens of our country, or prevent them living freely. Simple solutions don't exist, and becoming some sort of imperial state in name and deed only satisfies the rich political class ... and the unfortunates who think their bit of "property" denotes that others not similarly outfitted are lesser than they are just as bad.

Fig and Frankly, I'm not sure you guys are fully thinking through the implications of what you propose. I'll tell you one thing ... such a proposal won't lead to more freedom and isn't American by any conventional, or sensible, definition.

 

[Fig]

Seriously? What a Fing joke! So spending isn’t the problem...it’s revenue. We need to be taxed MORE!?!
Spoken like a true parasite!

 

[SilentStalkr]

I’m afraid the war has already been lost mates. It’s too late. Enjoy your freedoms while you have them.







Buahahaha...not. I’m not going out like that.

 

[SilentStalkr]

I'm certainly not a fan of these incremental gun restrictions but... the larger picture is that not only are guns going to be more and more restricted but the entire culture and society is shifting towards a strong, authoritarian, centralized bureaucracy that colludes with monopolistic multinational corporations to keep everyone consuming. If we were honest and insightful we'd call it national socialism.

Over half of the USA population depends on government for employment or benefits. Tell me how we aren't socialist?

And while we call ourselves capitalist, most small businesses are either service orientated or subcontracting to a larger monopoly. When that farmer signs a contract to supply Walmart and has to follow their pricing and dictates are they still acting as a independent business? Same with machine shops supplying parts to a larger corporation who in turn supply the government. Or if I build homes or sling lattes for teachers and government IT subcontractors how am I not ultimately dependent on government money? How much of the economy is actually free? (10% if that)

Worse I don't see an acceptable solution as our demographic changes are baked in and the future generations are only going to be more and more government dependent and urbanized. We could have a perfectly great revolution but we'd still have a population of soyboys in the end. Unless it's such a radical revolt that our major cities are decimated we're still going to be led by large urban areas.

So $20 to the NRA to slow the flow while keeping your distance from cities and government teat is the best current option. Raising your kids to be as independent as possible and earning/saving as much personal wealth as possible is your best defense. Stocking ammo and putting aside a few guns and having some bitcoin and junk silver is all great in theory but having $$$ in the bank is job #1.

But don't tell me some political movement is somehow going to show people the light and bring on a utopian society where we can have all the guns we want and everybody respects each others' rights to be left alone.

Having money in the bank is great, up until they take it from you. Don’t think it can happen? Think again. We are losing the war...

 

[Frankly]

Ok ok only snipers get the vote