Ok, got it didn't think of the new McMillan MC3 line of stocks. And no no experience with these. They look OK, but if I'm going to spend any money on a replacement stock I'd like it to be lighter weight than the factory one, and these appear to be pretty heavy. The stock you mention weighs 45 ozs per the website. I guess I'd likely go for the McMillan Game Scout in Edge at 28-30 ozs, yes more $$$ but IMHO a better upgrade.