So im goint to be ordering a USO in the not to distant future and was wondering if anyone had the Mil-Scale MPR in theirs, if so could you posibly post pictures down the scope and comment as to how you like the reticle? Im just trying to decide between the Mil-Scale MPR and the Mil scale reticl.
Rifle Scopes Mil-Scale MPR question
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Re: Mil-Scale MPR question
The Mil Scale MPR is much superior to the standard mil scale on many levels. Holdovers and wind holds are especially easier as you are never more than .3 mil in-between any hash mark. The versatility of the MPR is what makes it great.
I don't have a pic but I have great experience with this reticle. Any question you have I can answer.
The Mil Scale MPR is much superior to the standard mil scale on many levels. Holdovers and wind holds are especially easier as you are never more than .3 mil in-between any hash mark. The versatility of the MPR is what makes it great.
I don't have a pic but I have great experience with this reticle. Any question you have I can answer.
Re: Mil-Scale MPR question
Thanks for the insight I use holds rather than dialing for all my windage, and I really like the idea of having the ability to hold more accurately My only concern was that the reticle would could potentially be too busy.
Thanks for the insight I use holds rather than dialing for all my windage, and I really like the idea of having the ability to hold more accurately My only concern was that the reticle would could potentially be too busy.
Re: Mil-Scale MPR question
I have it in my USO spotter. I really like it for calling shots.
Sorry for the fuzzy image I was taking the photo thru my window across the road. I dont think its too busy at all. I like it just as much as the MIL Scale GAP reticle in my scope.
Plus I think Mike only likes it because its got his initials in it!
I have it in my USO spotter. I really like it for calling shots.
Sorry for the fuzzy image I was taking the photo thru my window across the road. I dont think its too busy at all. I like it just as much as the MIL Scale GAP reticle in my scope.
Plus I think Mike only likes it because its got his initials in it!
Re: Mil-Scale MPR question
Not at all, I have the MPR in my USO also. Easier for me on hold overs, and wind holds, and specially easy and precise on ranging since the hash lines allows you to have exact measurement of 0.1~1.0 mil readings when you combine them in different ways.
Do a search, there are at least 3~4 through the scope pictures on Hide with this reticle. PM me if you really can't find it, I will email you some.
Not at all, I have the MPR in my USO also. Easier for me on hold overs, and wind holds, and specially easy and precise on ranging since the hash lines allows you to have exact measurement of 0.1~1.0 mil readings when you combine them in different ways.
Do a search, there are at least 3~4 through the scope pictures on Hide with this reticle. PM me if you really can't find it, I will email you some.
Re: Mil-Scale MPR question
it is the shit hands down.......
at 3.2x
at 10x
17x
illum
it is the shit hands down.......
at 3.2x
at 10x
17x
illum
Re: Mil-Scale MPR question
The MPR reticle offers you the maximum amount of aiming points w/o doing it by 0.1 mils at a time.
From the center
0
0.5
0.8
1.0
1.2
1.5
1.8
2.0
and so on
By positioning the reticle about you can accurately subtend all measurements in 1/10th mil EXCEPT 0.1 and 0.9. These are easily overcome by fitting between any of the 0.2 spaced hashes.
If I can help you with your purchase feel free to give me a shout.
Cheers,
Doc
The MPR reticle offers you the maximum amount of aiming points w/o doing it by 0.1 mils at a time.
From the center
0
0.5
0.8
1.0
1.2
1.5
1.8
2.0
and so on
By positioning the reticle about you can accurately subtend all measurements in 1/10th mil EXCEPT 0.1 and 0.9. These are easily overcome by fitting between any of the 0.2 spaced hashes.
If I can help you with your purchase feel free to give me a shout.
Cheers,
Doc
Re: Mil-Scale MPR question
isn't line thickness .1 doc? if it is then the only one left out is .9
isn't line thickness .1 doc? if it is then the only one left out is .9
Re: Mil-Scale MPR question
For 0.1, I use the line width, and 0.9 I place it right between 0.8 and 1.0
For 0.1, I use the line width, and 0.9 I place it right between 0.8 and 1.0
Re: Mil-Scale MPR question
Best reticle I've seen yet. But my opinion is slightly biased.
Best reticle I've seen yet. But my opinion is slightly biased.
Re: Mil-Scale MPR question
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ewoaf</div><div class="ubbcode-body">it is the shit hands down.......
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I concur. For the reasons pointed out my many, I think its the best balance of all the info one would need without too much info.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ewoaf</div><div class="ubbcode-body">it is the shit hands down.......
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I concur. For the reasons pointed out my many, I think its the best balance of all the info one would need without too much info.
Re: Mil-Scale MPR question
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ewoaf</div><div class="ubbcode-body">isn't line thickness .1 doc? if it is then the only one left out is .9 </div></div>
Nah, if it was 0.1 MIL it would be frikking HUGE!!! You are close though, it's 0.1 MOA
I'll let you do the math 
Cheers,
Doc
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ewoaf</div><div class="ubbcode-body">isn't line thickness .1 doc? if it is then the only one left out is .9 </div></div>
Nah, if it was 0.1 MIL it would be frikking HUGE!!! You are close though, it's 0.1 MOA
Cheers,
Doc
Re: Mil-Scale MPR question
Thanks a ton for all the info this reticle seems to be the way to go.
Thanks a ton for all the info this reticle seems to be the way to go.
Re: Mil-Scale MPR question
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: doc76251</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ewoaf</div><div class="ubbcode-body">isn't line thickness .1 doc? if it is then the only one left out is .9 </div></div>
Nah, if it was 0.1 MIL it would be frikking HUGE!!! You are close though, it's 0.1 MOA I'll let you do the math
Cheers,
Doc </div></div>
0.02something something mils.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: doc76251</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ewoaf</div><div class="ubbcode-body">isn't line thickness .1 doc? if it is then the only one left out is .9 </div></div>
Nah, if it was 0.1 MIL it would be frikking HUGE!!! You are close though, it's 0.1 MOA
Cheers,
Doc </div></div>
0.02something something mils.
Re: Mil-Scale MPR question
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: doc76251</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The MPR reticle offers you the maximum amount of aiming points w/o doing it by 0.1 mils at a time.
From the center
0
0.5
0.8
1.0
1.2
1.5
1.8
2.0
and so on
By positioning the reticle about you can accurately subtend all measurements in 1/10th mil EXCEPT 0.1 and 0.9. These are easily overcome by fitting between any of the 0.2 spaced hashes.
If I can help you with your purchase feel free to give me a shout.
Cheers,
Doc </div></div>
Doc,
I hear guys criticizing the MPR because they claim it alternates between 0.2 and 0.3 mil graduations. It that really true, or is it simply a matter of not realizing that the sub-tensions are actually 1/4 mil values;
From the center
0
0.50
<span style="color: #FF0000">0.75</span>
1.00
<span style="color: #FF0000">1.25</span>
1.50
<span style="color: #FF0000">1.75</span>
2.00
and so on
In other words, did USO simply "round up" when they spec'ed the graduations, or did they really design it to alternate between 0.2 and 0.3 mils.
I think my brain would like this reticle better if I knew it was simply a GAP reticle that was sub-divided one more time.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: doc76251</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The MPR reticle offers you the maximum amount of aiming points w/o doing it by 0.1 mils at a time.
From the center
0
0.5
0.8
1.0
1.2
1.5
1.8
2.0
and so on
By positioning the reticle about you can accurately subtend all measurements in 1/10th mil EXCEPT 0.1 and 0.9. These are easily overcome by fitting between any of the 0.2 spaced hashes.
If I can help you with your purchase feel free to give me a shout.
Cheers,
Doc </div></div>
Doc,
I hear guys criticizing the MPR because they claim it alternates between 0.2 and 0.3 mil graduations. It that really true, or is it simply a matter of not realizing that the sub-tensions are actually 1/4 mil values;
From the center
0
0.50
<span style="color: #FF0000">0.75</span>
1.00
<span style="color: #FF0000">1.25</span>
1.50
<span style="color: #FF0000">1.75</span>
2.00
and so on
In other words, did USO simply "round up" when they spec'ed the graduations, or did they really design it to alternate between 0.2 and 0.3 mils.
I think my brain would like this reticle better if I knew it was simply a GAP reticle that was sub-divided one more time.
Re: Mil-Scale MPR question
Its designed as Doc posted so that you have a solid .2 and .3 measurements available.
Its easy to see and understand when you use it. Its not a GAP and not trying to be.
Its designed as Doc posted so that you have a solid .2 and .3 measurements available.
Its easy to see and understand when you use it. Its not a GAP and not trying to be.
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A picture is worth a 1000 words and Sober has provided it.
Glock24, I have the actual tech drawing which is essentially the one posted above with a WHOLE LOT more info on it. I can assure you there is NO rounding on the MPR reticle and those hash marks are not .25 mil anything.
Cheers,
Doc
A picture is worth a 1000 words and Sober has provided it.
Glock24, I have the actual tech drawing which is essentially the one posted above with a WHOLE LOT more info on it. I can assure you there is NO rounding on the MPR reticle and those hash marks are not .25 mil anything.
Cheers,
Doc
Re: Mil-Scale MPR question
OK - I'm going to revive this old topic here - I recenty took delivery on a new SN-3 TPAL 3-17 with a MPR and it appears substantially thicker than the one pictured above. The one above looks just like the MRP on the 2007 moddel ERGO that I sold to finance it. I'll post up picture later but I am very dissappointed.
OK - I'm going to revive this old topic here - I recenty took delivery on a new SN-3 TPAL 3-17 with a MPR and it appears substantially thicker than the one pictured above. The one above looks just like the MRP on the 2007 moddel ERGO that I sold to finance it. I'll post up picture later but I am very dissappointed.
Re: Mil-Scale MPR question
In my experience USO reticle thickness has a good deal of variability in it. This is not surprising given the chemical etching process that produces an etched reticle. A little more time and the reticle is thick, a little less and its thin (a lot more time and it is thick and uneven but I have only seen this on March scopes not USO). Someone once told me that if your looking for a particularly thin or thick reticle that you can request it when the scope is being built and they will look through the bin and pick you out what you want. Not particularly helpful information now. Sorry to hear that it's not to your liking.
In my experience USO reticle thickness has a good deal of variability in it. This is not surprising given the chemical etching process that produces an etched reticle. A little more time and the reticle is thick, a little less and its thin (a lot more time and it is thick and uneven but I have only seen this on March scopes not USO). Someone once told me that if your looking for a particularly thin or thick reticle that you can request it when the scope is being built and they will look through the bin and pick you out what you want. Not particularly helpful information now. Sorry to hear that it's not to your liking.
does this reticle get unusable at 3.2x? The through the scope pictures show the reticle being extremely faint at the lowest power. I am looking at getting the SN3 3.2-17x44 and it will be on a custom R700 for ranges from 50 to 1000m.
Thanks
Thanks
Is it unusable? As a crosshair, no. If you're going to try and mil with it, probably.
Thanks Mike. I guess that if i was going to mil something I would zoom in a little anyway to get as precise as possible. I was just wondering how defined and usable the 1mil marks were at the low mags for fast hold overs. I am trying to decide between the Mil-Scale MPR and the Mil-Scale GAP.
