Mounting a magneto speed
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Not sure if that will work with a Manners t4 stock. Might be 2 far away from the stock. They are out of stock on oil as well.
It could work depending on if you have a section of rail mounted to the front of the forend and the length of your barrel. I have a 26"barrel + brake in an MPA Comp with spigot and mine just barely reaches.
I have a 28" and have a kit more barrel extending past the rock than you. I saw the wiser but am not keen on 3d printed parts especially with the review posted recently. I may try and rig one with aluminum rod and a pic mounts.
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Definitely Wiser Precision!! I have ran it on everything from a 22LR to my .45 cal custom muzzleloader (310g bullets at 2750 fps). This thing has been flawless, and I will actually leave it on for entire range days, getting velocity information across every shot taken that day. I have tested this on everything from #4-MTU tapers, including carbon fiber wrapped barrels, and have never seen a Point of Impact shift. I Highly Highly Recommend this magneto mount.
I had the Wiser and didn’t like it. I really didn’t like the strap mechanism it uses for tension, and found it a much bigger pain in the ass to set up as opposed to just direct mounting the Magnetospeed normally. I hated that the mount plate and carbon rod are two separate pieces with absolutely nothing holding them together besides the tension of the strap. It made the Wiser extremely clumsy to adjust, and easy for it to fall out of alignment over time. The other options I’m aware of are the MK Machining, and I think MPA makes one called the RAT. After using the Wiser, I came to the conclusion that just mounting it normally is the best option. The only problem I have with the normal mounting is I can’t use a mirage cover on my suppressor, but the Wiser wouldn’t let me use a cover either. I couldn’t get the bayonet close enough to the bore with the cover on.
To be fair, I shoot all my rifles with the same Ultra 9 attached 100% of the time, so if I direct mount the Magnetospeed, I never have to adjust it. Someone who has to adjust the spacers every time will likely disagree with me about which is a bigger pain to deal with.
I’m not saying the Wiser or any of the other options are crap, but from my experience, I was extremely disappointed and decided to just go back to normally mounting the Magnetospeed. If your reason for looking at these mounts is just that you don’t like the theory and idea of having the Magnetospeed touching your barrel, I would recommend avoiding these mounts, as that was the exact reason I tried them. If you have a physical reason for needing one, that is a different story.
To be fair, I shoot all my rifles with the same Ultra 9 attached 100% of the time, so if I direct mount the Magnetospeed, I never have to adjust it. Someone who has to adjust the spacers every time will likely disagree with me about which is a bigger pain to deal with.
I’m not saying the Wiser or any of the other options are crap, but from my experience, I was extremely disappointed and decided to just go back to normally mounting the Magnetospeed. If your reason for looking at these mounts is just that you don’t like the theory and idea of having the Magnetospeed touching your barrel, I would recommend avoiding these mounts, as that was the exact reason I tried them. If you have a physical reason for needing one, that is a different story.
Not sure what you mean? The purpose of these mounts is that the magnettospeed no longer touches the barrel as I understand it.
I want it because I want a true representation of my groups. I actually get slightly tighter groups with it on with a poi shift of about .15 mils to the 1 o'clock.
The carbon rod and the actual mount for the magnetospeed are two seperate pieces on the Wiser. The mount slides against another mount on the rod with two interfacing smooth, flat surfaces (which is what allows the vertical adjustment range), and the only thing that holds these two pieces together and locks them in place is how much tension you have on the strap. It’s hard to describe without pictures.
Like I said, if you have any physical reason (like an actual meaningful change in group size) to get these mounts, then that’s fine. The only influence my magnetospeed has (even on a carbon wrapped barrel) is a minor down and right poi shift, and I only got the mount because I knew it was theoretically better to not have it touch the barrel. I was disappointed in the design and ease of use with the Wiser, and knew it wouldn’t be any different with the other mount options, so went back to the simpler solution of direct mounting it. For me, that is MUCH faster and MUCH MUCH easier to get set up as opposed to these style mounts.
Like I said, if you have any physical reason (like an actual meaningful change in group size) to get these mounts, then that’s fine. The only influence my magnetospeed has (even on a carbon wrapped barrel) is a minor down and right poi shift, and I only got the mount because I knew it was theoretically better to not have it touch the barrel. I was disappointed in the design and ease of use with the Wiser, and knew it wouldn’t be any different with the other mount options, so went back to the simpler solution of direct mounting it. For me, that is MUCH faster and MUCH MUCH easier to get set up as opposed to these style mounts.
Thanks for posting that. Not what I thought and much better than the above poster nade it seem. It attaches the the carbon tid the same way ad it does a barrel once the adaptor is installed.
I made it seem worse than what it actually is with how I worded my post. The Wiser isn’t bad, it just wasn’t as convenient for me. I will say it has some of the highest quality 3D printed parts I’ve ever seen, it is very good on that front. My biggest problem with it was the design. It definitely works, it just didn’t work in a way that I personally like. The point I was trying to make was, from my experience, if you don’t have an explicit problem with mounting the Magnetospeed directly to your barrel or suppressor, these mounts aren’t worth trying.
I've had the same experiences as sjc929 with my Wiser mount. I don't use it and it just have settled with mounting it to barrel/suppressor.
I have had the same experience with the MK Mount. It was a nice piece of equipment, and worked exactly as advertised. It certainly seemed like a cool idea to be able to leave it on there and get all kinds of velocity info every time I shoot.
Once I started messing with it, i figured out quickly it just wasn’t worth the hassle. I really don’t need all that velocity info THAT bad. Lol
Once I started messing with it, i figured out quickly it just wasn’t worth the hassle. I really don’t need all that velocity info THAT bad. Lol
Yep, I got the mk because I thought it would be the tits but I couldnt get it to work with anything, my non silenced rifles are all hunting rifles with no picatinny and the arm wasnt long enough to deal with the can on those that do have picatinny.
I ultimately have gone labradar to be done with worrying about interference.
I ultimately have gone labradar to be done with worrying about interference.
I just got one of those yesterday.
Seems pretty good.
I’ll have a better opinion later next week when I get my new rifle built and begin testing/fondling.
@Tono mine didn’t have the elevation tension screw, and that was a very nice improvement on his design. I’ll admit that improves it a lot, but that wasn’t my main complaint or dislike about it. I think the best way to say it is, if you buy any of these mounts, you’re going to be spending a lot of time at the range with the alignment bar making sure the bayonet is parallel vertically and horizontally to the bore, and that it is close enough but not too close, and that everything is properly torqued or tensioned to stay in the perfect position. I don’t have to do any of that any more, I slip the magnetospeed over my suppressor and tighten the tensioning screw for the strap. It’s already perfectly aligned by design. That’s why I don’t recommend these mounts unless you’re experiencing some problem that only they can solve.
