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My "Ultimate" Long Range AR - 6mm Super LR

Hellbender

Gunny Sergeant
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Apr 23, 2008
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Lebanon, Missouri
I've been working on my "Ultimate Long Range AR" project for a while now. It is a "no holds barred", "no expenses spared" attempt
at building, at least for me, the ultimate, "holy grail" semi-auto, long range, tactical match rifle.

This is not a combat rifle, this is a match gun, I have lots of "combat rifles", long, medium and short range.

Here are some of the goals I'm hoping to achieve with this rifle:

100% reliability
Overall, well balanced weight under 13 pounds
Recoils like a .223 AR15 (NOT a .308 AR10)
Trajectory that shoots with a .338 Lapua to 1200+ yards
At least 10 round mag capacity
1/2 MOA (or better) accuracy
Barrel life of at least 2500 rounds (a year of matches, with practice)
Perfect, 3 pound trigger
Best optics available
Ambidextrious operation


No problems, you say? Right; it's tough, time consuming, and expensive!


Here's the basic build....

IRA matched upper and lower, DPMS LR style, 20 MOA pic. rail
Krieger 24" SS barrel, 7.5" twist, turned to .850" dia. to gas block and .750" to muzzle, 2" forward gas port
APA "Lil Bastard" muzzle brake, full dia., tapered to fit barrel and end recontoured
PRI carbon fiber 15" long forend with rails to my spec and 4 flush cup locations
Custom, lightweight bolt carrier
Tubb CS spring (cut for function)
Lightened buffer
JP adjustable gas block (with added safety set screw)
C-Products black SS mags (allows 2.845" OAL)
Giessele Match trigger
Premier Reticles 34mm alloy rings, 1.27" high
S&B PMII 5-25x56 w/P4F, MIL, CCW, FFP, and some other ABC's I can't remember
Anti-cant and Angle Cosine Indicator
BCM Gunfighter Charging handle
A1 stock with added flush cup and fully adjustable butt pad, Troy flush cup sling mount
Ambi-safety
Everything I know to slick it up and make it trick!

Keeping the weight down was a real challenge, but all the LR guns I see and use handle like a 4 foot long lead pipe, I wanted
this one balanced well for shooting off obstacles and positional shooting. The balance point is at the front of the mag well, it really handles nice and quick!
It's a few ounces under 13 pounds, empty.

The caliber is a wildcat, 6mm Super LR, it's just a .243 Win with a sharper (30 deg.) shoulder and long neck that allows seating
the 115 DTAC to mag length without getting into the powder space. The sharper shoulder and long neck should also
increase barrel life over the .243 by moving the "turbulent point" of the gasses back into the case neck and out
of the barrel throat (sounds good anyway, we'll see).

My goal was to push a 115 DTAC to 2900+ fps (or a 107 SMK to 3050 fps) while keeping pressures under 58K psi at 100 deg. F (according to Quickload).

I also wanted a no fireforming, no neck turn cartridge, and this one is as simple as running a case into
the die and it's ready to load.

The reduced recoil goal entailed a lot of things, both large and small; the gas port (location, size and adjustability),
powder burning rate, bolt carrier mods, buffer mods, recoil spring type and mods, muzzle brake, recoil pad, and rifle fit.

I am doing all the work on this rifle except the barrel was built by Sabreco, to my specs.

Anyway, I've documented some of the extra tricks and slick up stuff I'm doing to this rifle in the "Gunsmithing section"
if you all want to check it out. Here's the links...

http://www.snipershide.com/forum/ubbthre...980#Post1943980
http://www.snipershide.com/forum/ubbthre...013#Post1944013
http://www.snipershide.com/forum/ubbthre...031#Post1944031
http://www.snipershide.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=2101928#Post2101928
http://www.snipershide.com/forum/ubbthre...577#Post1946577
http://www.snipershide.com/forum/ubbthre...519#Post1951519
http://www.snipershide.com/forum/ubbthre...547#Post1951547
http://www.snipershide.com/forum/ubbthre...599#Post1951599
http://www.snipershide.com/forum/ubbthre...633#Post1951633
http://www.snipershide.com/forum/ubbthre...625#Post1953625
http://www.snipershide.com/forum/ubbthre...200#Post1986200
http://www.snipershide.com/forum/ubbthre...342#Post1986342
http://www.snipershide.com/forum/ubbthre...724#Post1813724

Here's some pics of the rifle, finished except for Cerakoting. I'm gonna shoot it a little to make sure all the bugs are worked
out before Cerakoting it.

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I thought this was kinda neat, I made a permanent "Skid Plate" attached to the forend, 1/4" thick medium
density foam under a very tough layer of rubberized non-skid material.
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I hate the look of this thing, but the high pad fits perfectly into my shoulder pocket in the prone position, unlike everything
else which hits low on my collar bone. It also really straightens out the recoil pulse.
I also added a nice, thick, soft LimbSaver pad!
I'm long armed also and like the length adjustability, I used a short A1 stock and can lengthen it another 3" if I grow anymore.
I also added a flush cup as high as possible. It'll look a little better after some black Cerakote hits it!
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I've only shot it a little bit (under 50 rounds) for function testing and break in, but initial loads pushed the DTAC's to 2925 fps around 1/2 MOA at 100 yards.
 
Re: My "Ultimate" Long Range AR

Phenomenal piece of equipment. Every last detail tended to. Love to see the results on target when you get a chance to truly put it thru its paces.
 
Re: My "Ultimate" Long Range AR

Kick ass setup. I bought a matched set of IRA receivers and they are top notch. Then I decided to buy the LMT MWS so now I gata sell them!

Good to see your rifle is shooting well. Keep us posted with groups and other range reports.
 
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NICE WORK! Although I'm certain it is an expensive rig, it is really well done, lots of excellent thought went into this build before it started. Lots of fellows just start throwing parts together and think as the project progresses. I think you did all the thinking and planning ahead of time, and it really shows.
 
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I must say that is very bad ass! how well does it balace out?
 
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Very nice!
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I can't wait to see what that'll do at 1K.
What kind of barrel life is expected out of the 6mmsuperlr?
 
Re: My "Ultimate" Long Range AR

Sweet rig. I am planning on doing the same thing, but in AR15 platform. I am going to to with a 6Rat/6mmARturbo40.
 
Re: My "Ultimate" Long Range AR

Thanks for sharing this. Good post I will reference in the future. What bugs if any have you experienced? How does she feed and cycle?
 
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Good Articles. Can't wait to see results on paper.
 
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alan_h... It balances at the exact front of the magwell, perfect if you grab it with one hand to carry. It's even very shootable off-hand.

Heavies...It's supposed to be about the same as a 6mmXC (it has the same shoulder and neck)...2500-3500 rounds. I also do not worry about the last 75 fps on muzzle velocity, and that makes a big difference on barrel life. I keep my loads about 4-5K psi under max.

Recko555....I'm sure you'll like it, I also have a 243 WSSM on a small AR, and it is perfect out to 800 yards, and they sure handle nicer than the Big AR's. I'm attempting to mimic the recoil pulse of my WSSM with this Big gun, as it's like shooting a .22, unbelievable.

oneswithfunes.....No problems I wasn't expecting, I still have some ejector spring tuning to finish after I settle on my load. Feeds perfectly, the cycle time is very fast and gun movement seems very low. Hard to tell much more as I haven't really got to settle down and shoot it in field positions yet.


It's going to be a few weeks before I really get to shoot it much, life is busy right now. I'll post some results when I get a load worked up.
 
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You did all that with imagination?! I wish I was that talented, ha (seriously). That thing is nicer than the truck I drive!

SS
 
Re: My "Ultimate" Long Range AR

That sir is a well thought out application of knowledge gleaned on what is stuff and what is fluff!
Very nice.



This is my favorite part:
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Hellbender</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
My goal was to push a 115 DTAC to 2900+ fps (or a 107 SMK to 3050 fps) while keeping pressures under 58K psi at 100 deg. F (according to Quickload).

I also wanted a no fireforming, no neck turn cartridge, and this one is as simple as running a case into
the die and it's ready to load.

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Re: My "Ultimate" Long Range AR

Looks great, Let us know how she shoots.
 
Re: My "Ultimate" Long Range AR

Great rifle Sir. I would really like to try some of your lapping tips on one of my 5.56 guns that rips up cases.
 
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Here's a pic of the .22 trainer I made to match the weight and balance of the gun above. I had CLE make the upper to match the barrel contour and length.

It points, feels and balances very closely to my gun above. Same trigger, grip, etc.

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Nice rifle. I've been researching the 6mm Super LR for my AR-10 build.
 
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Got any pics of the barrel without the hand guard?