Suppressors Need some info.

[Minarix]

First let me state I've never done this process so I've been trying to read every thread possible in this section.

I currently own 6.5cm, .224valk, 9mm in both pistol/carbine, 270, 5.56, .22lr.

I would like to get a can for all my rifles, at the same time, if possible a multi-cal can, I've read that 223/556 can share a can, I assume this counts for .224 aswell?


The other info I need is form 1 or form 4? I prefer quality, and don't mind paying a premium for a better product, nor do I mind waiting would a form 4 be the better route in that regard?



Sure this has been posted a million times, excuse any errors on mobile

 

[nn8734]

Form 1 if you can make your own that meets the above needs.

Form 4, Any decent .30 cal can should work for you. Knights, TBAC, SF, Dead Air just to name a few. figure out what you want most in a can, compare those needs to the marketplace offerings and pick one.

 

[Minarix]

Form 1 if you can make your own that meets the above needs.

Form 4, Any decent .30 cal can should work for you. Knights, TBAC, SF, Dead Air just to name a few. figure out what you want most in a can, compare those needs to the marketplace offerings and pick one.

My biggest wants/needs would fall under noise reduction and maintaining reliable accuracy, I don't care about weight.

I've looked at both knights, and tbac, leaning towards tbac, I have a friend who's a gunsmith who has everything needed for a form 1, if I go that route I want to get pointed in the direction of the best quality for the needs a stated earlier, have been eyeing quiet bore, are there some other reptuable options I missed?

TIA

 

[nn8734]

My biggest wants/needs would fall under noise reduction and maintaining reliable accuracy, I don't care about weight.

I've looked at both knights, and tbac, leaning towards tbac, I have a friend who's a gunsmith who has everything needed for a form 1, if I go that route I want to get pointed in the direction of the best quality for the needs a stated earlier, have been eyeing quiet bore, are there some other reptuable options I missed?

TIA

If noise reduction, quality and reliability are the main priorities, you can’t go wrong with a TBAC ultra 7 or 9, IMO. I’m considering their 338 for my Lapua Mag.

Knights QDC cans are great for hard use guns (as are surefire socom) but are not as quiet as others.

Cans from those three exhibit minimal to no POI shift relative to unsuppressed as well as between cold bore vs warm bore. Others here say good things about Silencerco and DeadAir.

 

[Gibs]

Biggest difference imho is the wait time between a Form 4 at 12-15 months vs getting a quality Form 1 build done in less than 2-3 including waiting on the parts to come in. Your approval time on a Form 1 once submitted is running around 45-60 days currently. The fact that you have a friend who's a gunsmith is a plus. Gives you access to quality tools and knowledge for a possible Form 1 build. A well thought out Form 1 can rival any of the Form 4 cans for the performance criteria you are looking for.

I don't have any personal experience with the Quietbore kit for 5.56/30 cal BUT a couple of things stand out to me when I've looked at them for Form 1 parts on that configuration. The tube is a 4130 steel w/nitrade coating. It's going to be heavy. It's 9" long. That's pretty long for what you are looking to do. You can accomplish that in a shorter build. The tube is 1.5" and that's the minimum for the calibers you list. A little more volume in the can helps with suppression so I'd consider based upon your list looking at a 1.625" can. They don't give you any information on the baffle size or shape as well as bore size on the tube. They do supply their internals in 3103 SS, but from what I've seen that's an aluminum alloy stainless. Not sure that's appropriate. Are they heat treated? You honestly need at most 2-3 SS "cups" at the beginning to help with erosion, but the balance can be Ti to help with weight. Same concept on the tube, I'd go with Ti from a reputable supplier for weight savings which equals better balance at the end of the rifle.

Here is a list of some additional solvent trap companies you might want to check out.

https://diversifiedmachine.us/shop/
https://maverickprecision.com/produc...g-accessories/
https://superprecisionconcepts.com/
https://www.hawkinnovativetech.com/p.../solvent-trap/

SDTA Products | SD Tactical Arms Custom Firearms and Accessories

sdtacticalarms.com

Links below should help you TREMENDOUSLY in your research how to build a solvent trap if you go that direction, materials available and what type to choose, as well as minimuim tools necessary to get the job done. You don't have to have a lathe and milling machine to make a good solvent trap. Dremel, some jigs, a file, drill bits and bushings and you can make a VERY nice product. Milling machine and lathe quality cuts, swoops and holes are great, but again not a requirement.

http://form1suppressor.boards.net/
http://www.silencertalk.com/forum/vi...78c8bf8fe814d3

Eform 1 walkthru. Probably one of the best guides I've found.

https://creativearmsllc.com/2019/01/...e-walkthrough/

Let me know if I can help in any way navigate this stuff for you. I've got hundreds of hours of research into this topic. It's addicting!

 

[Minarix]

Biggest difference imho is the wait time between a Form 4 at 12-15 months vs getting a quality Form 1 build done in less than 2-3 including waiting on the parts to come in. Your approval time on a Form 1 once submitted is running around 45-60 days currently. The fact that you have a friend who's a gunsmith is a plus. Gives you access to quality tools and knowledge for a possible Form 1 build. A well thought out Form 1 can rival any of the Form 4 cans for the performance criteria you are looking for.

I don't have any personal experience with the Quietbore kit for 5.56/30 cal BUT a couple of things stand out to me when I've looked at them for Form 1 parts on that configuration. The tube is a 4130 steel w/nitrade coating. It's going to be heavy. It's 9" long. That's pretty long for what you are looking to do. You can accomplish that in a shorter build. The tube is 1.5" and that's the minimum for the calibers you list. A little more volume in the can helps with suppression so I'd consider based upon your list looking at a 1.625" can. They don't give you any information on the baffle size or shape as well as bore size on the tube. They do supply their internals in 3103 SS, but from what I've seen that's an aluminum alloy stainless. Not sure that's appropriate. Are they heat treated? You honestly need at most 2-3 SS "cups" at the beginning to help with erosion, but the balance can be Ti to help with weight. Same concept on the tube, I'd go with Ti from a reputable supplier for weight savings which equals better balance at the end of the rifle.

Here is a list of some additional solvent trap companies you might want to check out.

https://diversifiedmachine.us/shop/
https://maverickprecision.com/produc...g-accessories/
https://superprecisionconcepts.com/
https://www.hawkinnovativetech.com/p.../solvent-trap/

SDTA Products | SD Tactical Arms Custom Firearms and Accessories

sdtacticalarms.com

Links below should help you TREMENDOUSLY in your research how to build a solvent trap if you go that direction, materials available and what type to choose, as well as minimuim tools necessary to get the job done. You don't have to have a lathe and milling machine to make a good solvent trap. Dremel, some jigs, a file, drill bits and bushings and you can make a VERY nice product. Milling machine and lathe quality cuts, swoops and holes are great, but again not a requirement.

http://form1suppressor.boards.net/
http://www.silencertalk.com/forum/vi...78c8bf8fe814d3

Eform 1 walkthru. Probably one of the best guides I've found.

https://creativearmsllc.com/2019/01/...e-walkthrough/

Let me know if I can help in any way navigate this stuff for you. I've got hundreds of hours of research into this topic. It's addicting!

Some Quality info i was looking for thank you very much, will deff give all those a read later today.