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New California Law Will Base Electricity Bills on Income Level

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“From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs.”

A new law in California will force those who make more money to pay more for their electricity.

Under the new rules, higher-income earners will pay seven times more than low-income earners.


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“If you live in California, how much you pay for electricity will soon be tied to much you earn. A state law passed last summer requires the California Public Utilities Commission, or CPUC, to approve a pricing structure that incorporates a flat fee with a sliding scale based on… pic.twitter.com/un8QTc4bhQ
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CNET reported:

If you live in California, how much you pay for electricity will soon be tied to much you earn. A state law passed last summer requires the California Public Utilities Commission, or CPUC, to approve a pricing structure that incorporates a flat fee with a sliding scale based on income.
Currently, Californians pay for the energy they use and the cost of upgrading the grid, settling lawsuits related to wildfires and providing assistance to low-income customers is built into the per-kilowatt-hour price.
Under the new system, however, funds for these programs would come from “income-graduated fixed charges.”
It’s an unprecedented move: In an April blog post, energy economist Ahmad Faruqui said more than 170 investor-owned utilities nationwide incorporate a fixed rate — the median being $10 and the highest $40.
None has an income-based component.
Earlier this year, The Gateway Pundit reported that California electric companies proposed fixed-rate bills based on income.

Southern California Edison, Pacific Gas & Electric, and San Diego Gas & Electric proposed a plan to charge customers based on income, not usage.

This was based on a new assembly bill that requires ‘simpler’ electricity bills.

Customers will see the new changes starting in 2025.
 
Can you even imagine where it will be in 5 years?

We've seen what happens when libs get the government they want. At this point, if you still live there, that's your own fault. I wish conservatives would flock to the south, the midwest, the rockies and Texas. Let's create strong conservative states and laugh while Sodom and gahmorra collapse.
 
Love it.

The faster the wealthy flee, the sooner that shithole collapses in on itself.
The wealthy is divided by those that pay taxes and those that don't.
The working wealthy pay taxes and the elite wealthy have shelters to avoid the taxes. They are the ones that vote for this shit, along with the free shit army.
The working wealthy don't want to reduce their status by moving out. They live rubbing elbows at the country club and hob nobbing at the luncheon and dinners. They will complain to their friends on the 8th green but turn around and donate to get Gavin elected
 
Can you even imagine where it will be in 5 years?

We've seen what happens when libs get the government they want. At this point, if you still live there, that's your own fault. I wish conservatives would flock to the south, the midwest, the rockies and Texas. Let's create strong conservative states and laugh while Sodom and gahmorra collapse.
How about they flock to Commiefornia and take it back. to beautiful a state to allow them to flush. The geographic diversity is unmatched.

FuckGavinNewsome.
 
How about they flock to Commiefornia and take it back. to beautiful a state to allow them to flush. The geographic diversity is unmatched.

FuckGavinNewsome.
That's phase II. You have to wait for the implosion. They have control. Don't waste time trying to wrestle it back. Leave this disaster for the history books. Everywhere libs get what they want turns into a third world shit hole. Let it burn and our great grandkids can rebuild on the bones. The collapse might be the only thing that saves this country, if it isn't too late already.
 
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That's phase II. You have to wait for the implosion. They have control. Don't waste time trying to wrestle it back. Leave this disaster for the history books. Everywhere libs get what they want turns into a third world shit hole. Let it burn and our great grandkids can rebuild on the bones. The collapse might be the only thing that saves this country, if it isn't too late already.
You know full well the rates will also be based on skin color soon enough...
because they are already trying to figure out how to pay out their reparations.
 
Love it.

The faster the wealthy flee, the sooner that shithole collapses in on itself.
It won’t collapse until the whole country does. The money stolen from our pockets via “legal” armed robbery by the gov’ts police will be handed to the California criminal gastapo to keep the state running. That’s how this works. All cities and counties in and including all 50 criminal state gov’ts work in conjunction with the criminal feds to control the masses using any means necessary including imprisoning and murder. The whole damn thing is evil.
 
A flat rate of $92 per month for as much electricity as I can possibly use? No more worrying about per kwhr rates and just running the AC on full all summer? Just standing in front of the frig with both doors wide open, jaw slight askew, while contemplating my choice from the refrigerated bounty? Leaving all the lights on, just ‘cuz? No more yelling “close the damned door. You weren’t raised in a barn!?”

Who here has an average monthly energy bill of less than $92. Because, fuck, sign me up!

I foresee rolling brownouts becoming prolonged blackouts over wide swaths of California.


Just the recurring charges, not electricity usage...
 
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So how do they figure out how much one earned? Is it gonna be self reporting? Or are they gonna steal everyone’s tax returns?
 
So how do they figure out how much one earned? Is it gonna be self reporting? Or are they gonna steal everyone’s tax returns?
Most likely the previous year’s state tax returns?
 
A flat rate of $92 per month for as much electricity as I can possibly use? No more worrying about per kwhr rates and just running the AC on full all summer? Just standing in front of the frig with both doors wide open, jaw slight askew, while contemplating my choice from the refrigerated bounty? Leaving all the lights on, just ‘cuz? No more yelling “close the damned door. You weren’t raised in a barn!?”

Who here has an average monthly energy bill of less than $92. Because, fuck, sign me up!

I foresee rolling brownouts becoming prolonged blackouts over wide swaths of California.
I’m fairly certain they want $92 per KWH. Lol
 
I’m fairly certain they want $92 per KWH. Lol
I was mistaken. I found an article that quoted flat monthly rate of whatever the rates are. But, this is only for the recurring charges not related to actual usage. All of the reach through and add ons that we all see on our bills. THOSE would be a flat rate. The usage rate would be unchanged. Unfortunately, this is mostly a nothing burger...


Put simply, the more you earn the more you pay for recurring charges (not related to energy usage):

  • Households with annual income from $28,000 – $69,000 would pay $20 a month in Southern California Edison territory, $34 a month in SDG&E territory, and $30 a month in PG&E territory.
  • Households earning $69,000 – $180,000 would pay $51 a month in Edison and PG&E territories, and $73 a month in SDG&E territory.
  • Those with incomes above $180,000 would pay $85 a month in Edison territory, $128 a month in SDG&E territory and $92 a month in PG&E territory.
 
Most likely the previous year’s state tax returns?
I always believed (cough cough) that tax returns were only between state, fed, IRS. If ANYONE can get a tax return, next we will get groceries by what we earn, gasoline, medical care, etc. And yes, I know that we effectively already do that.

I shake my head ruefully…..

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And what really concerns me in all this is my socialist fucking state of Virginia that loves to copy everything Commiefornia does….
 
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If you don't know, there is not a law on the books anywhere that says that you have to file a tax return. If you don't file, nothing actually happens. Look into it..
 
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So, what I hear you saying is.... for those who can't afford an air conditioner (because they wasted their money on meth and heroin) it is "simply free" now to just leave the freezer door open.

That'll cool off the house, and it won't make their monthly bill go up at all. Not a problem, other bastid's gonna pays fer it!

"USE" is going to skyrocket, and 'rolling brownouts' are going to be cyclical. Like an egg-timer.

Just wait till they do the same thing with the water bill.... because water comes from taps. EVERYBODY knows that! Want more water, just go to the hardware store and buy another tap. Simple.
 
So, what I hear you saying is.... for those who can't afford an air conditioner (because they wasted their money on meth and heroin) it is "simply free" now to just leave the freezer door open.

That'll cool off the house, and it won't make their monthly bill go up at all. Not a problem, other bastid's gonna pays fer it!

"USE" is going to skyrocket, and 'rolling brownouts' are going to be cyclical. Like an egg-timer.

Just wait till they do the same thing with the water bill.... because water comes from taps. EVERYBODY knows that! Want more water, just go to the hardware store and buy another tap. Simple.
No, only the recurring charges (transmission, wildfire, improvement, etc fees) will be flat rate. No changes to usage rates.
 
Can you even imagine where it will be in 5 years?

We've seen what happens when libs get the government they want. At this point, if you still live there, that's your own fault. I wish conservatives would flock to the south, the midwest, the rockies and Texas. Let's create strong conservative states and laugh while Sodom and gahmorra collapse.
I was mistaken. I found an article that quoted flat monthly rate of whatever the rates are. But, this is only for the recurring charges not related to actual usage. All of the reach through and add ons that we all see on our bills. THOSE would be a flat rate. The usage rate would be unchanged. Unfortunately, this is mostly a nothing burger...


Put simply, the more you earn the more you pay for recurring charges (not related to energy usage):

  • Households with annual income from $28,000 – $69,000 would pay $20 a month in Southern California Edison territory, $34 a month in SDG&E territory, and $30 a month in PG&E territory.
  • Households earning $69,000 – $180,000 would pay $51 a month in Edison and PG&E territories, and $73 a month in SDG&E territory.
  • Those with incomes above $180,000 would pay $85 a month in Edison territory, $128 a month in SDG&E territory and $92 a month in PG&E territory.

I was concerned for a minute. At first, it looked like socialism.