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Miamiink

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Hey everyone im new here, and the reason im here im sure will get a laugh or two. I saw the movie "Shooter" for the first time recently, i havnt been able to get myself to quit thinking about learning survival and learning to shoot long distances.

I have been shooting since i was little, my dad had me shooting .22s since i was six, but iv never taken it seriously untill now, i dont own a rifle any more powerfull than a .22 yet but i really want to get a savage .270, my brother has one and i love that thing! The accu trigger is just awesome. Although im not set on anything yet.

So. Anyone got some ideas on rifles i should consider or reading material? Thanks for your time and any input you may have i appreciate it.
 
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Haha, Shooter huh! That's cool bro, whatever gets you goin.

Nothing wrong with a Savage. Probably wouldn't go with a .270 though. Not for this game. My recommendation would be a .308 for starters. Mild recoil, good barrel life, abundance of high quality ammunition, can be very accurate at extended ranges (not the best, but not bad either), and will induce the need to learn to read the wind well (hahaha).

You'll never out grow it, and its always nice to have a .308 lying around.

This forum has many knowledgeable individuals to give you a hand. Good luck with your new hobby..............its getting ready to be a very expensive addiction!!! Hahaha.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Nimzoblanca</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Reading material for a beginner? How about John Plaster's Ultimate Sniper. </div></div>

Serious? Start by reading the stickys on this site, and ask questions. Plenty of good info right where your at.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Miamiink</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Hey everyone im new here, and the reason im here im sure will get a laugh or two. I saw the movie "Shooter" for the first time recently, i havnt been able to get myself to quit thinking about learning survival and learning to shoot long distances.

I have been shooting since i was little, my dad had me shooting .22s since i was six, but iv never taken it seriously untill now, i dont own a rifle any more powerfull than a .22 yet but i really want to get a savage .270, my brother has one and i love that thing! The accu trigger is just awesome. Although im not set on anything yet.

So. Anyone got some ideas on rifles i should consider or reading material? Thanks for your time and any input you may have i appreciate it. </div></div>The .270 Winchester round is pretty good, but if you are looking for long range "bench" type shooting, then I would look into something in the 6.5mm calibers. Those 6.5's really fly!
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@longguntoter thanks for the input, i was at the gun store and noticed the .270 and .308 ammo is the same price but the .308 rifle is a hundred bucks more, which one would be the better buy? Also im going to be doing more shooting in the wilderness and at tricky angles and things like that im not really into bench shooting.
 
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@seth thats why im here haha i havnt been reading threads on here and learning a lot, but am overall guide would be a good starting point for me to give me a base understanding of survival and starting to learn the basics of shooting high powered weapons, thanks for posting though
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Miamiink</div><div class="ubbcode-body">@longguntoter thanks for the input, i was at the gun store and noticed the .270 and .308 ammo is the same price but the .308 rifle is a hundred bucks more, which one would be the better buy? Also im going to be doing more shooting in the wilderness and at tricky angles and things like that im not really into bench shooting. </div></div>

.308 win is the better caliber. Probably gonna need some more info on rifle specifics to tell which is the better buy. Look around the for sale section of this forum. Probably find yourself a rifle already done up the way you want it. All kinda depends on what you want and how much you want to spend.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Seth8541</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Nimzoblanca</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Reading material for a beginner? How about John Plaster's Ultimate Sniper. </div></div>

Serious? Start by reading the stickys on this site, and ask questions. Plenty of good info right where your at. </div></div>
It's easier to read a book when you're sitting on the throne.
 
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Welcome to the hide!! Pick a sextion on the site and start reading. Once you get down with that one goto another one!!

Ask questions make some friends and go shoot!!
 
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You picked a great site to learn from there are great people here that are willing to help but first use the search feature. It will answer about 90% of your questions. The guys get tired answering the same questions over and over. Just make a effort with the search feature.
 
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Welcome to the Hide.

If it was me, I would pick the 308 over the 270.
There is a larger seletion of factory ammo to pick from than the 270. If you decide to start reloading, there is even a bigger variety of bullets to choose from. Don't get me wrong, the 270 is a great cartrige, but for the type of shooting we all do here, you will find alot of Hide members use 308's.
 
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The United States Army Marksmanship Unit Service Rifle Guide is good reading for anyone interested in developing their marksmanship skills. Now, the OP said nothing about marksmanship; but, if the interest is more than just a fascination with LR, the guide could be quite entertaining. It can be purchased from the CMP's E-Store.
 
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Shooter - best is when he takes out the 3 guys with a .22lr I think it was a .22 lr while standing on a small boat. Man, That is hard.

Take Seth8541 Seriously. I am somewhat new here, and when I say that, I have read 1000s of threads before I signed up. I signed up here b/c I wanted to buy a scope for my new Steyr SSG 04 300 win mag. Like you, my father made me shoot a coon when I was 6 yo. I was freaking out. He did so b/c he wanted me to see what a rifle will do. It KILLS. I have respected them fully since. Truth be told, I havent outgrown my .22LR yet, partly b/c $20 shoots it all day long. My fun guns include, DPMS LR308 Best, and BCM SPR. I cant tell you how much fun it is throwing a nice 308 load down range. Now, I have another trigger on it, b/c DPMS triggers suck, but still, it is fun. Really take your time, do not set your mind on anything just yet. Take a look at the bullet aspects of what you want before the rifle. This table is from about 6 sources, and I have carefully calculated them into 1 table, then I decided on the rifle.
This is a custom table - so real recoil is when I add some weight to rifle, and maybe a muzzle brake or so. And the tradj. is with scope zeroed at 200 yards, which I do.

Velocity Energy Tradjectory

Muzzle 200 yd 500 yd Muzzle 200 yd 500 yd 100 yd 300 yd 500 yd
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223 3010 2360 1520 1315 795 450 1.5 -7.5 -47.9
50 – 80 Grains recoil 2 to 4 lbs real recl 1 to 2 lbs
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243 3085 2585 1885 1990 1380 770 1.5 -6.6 -41.2
75 - 100 Grains recoil 7 to 11 lbs real recl 4 to 7 lbs
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260 2865 2375 1840 2300 1675 980 1.9 -7.5 -46.5
100-140 Grains recoil 11 to 14 lbs real recl 9 to 12 lbs
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270 3060 2485 1980 2765 1900 1240 1.5 -6.7 -43.7
125-150 Grains recoil 16 to 21 lbs real recl 13to 17 lbs
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308 2760 2360 1770 2740 1960 1235 1.9 -8.5 -50
150-180 Grains recoil 15 to 19 lbs real recl 9 to 14 lbs
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6.8 spc 2700 2140 1500 1745 1095 560 2.3 -10.2 -62.6
100-120 Grains recoil 7 to 9 lbs real recl 5 to 7 lbs
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7.62x39 2350 1780 1160 1560 890 370 3.3 -14 -92
120-155 Grains recoil 6 to 9 lbs real recl 5 to 8 lbs
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300WM 3150 2660 2130 3640 2745 1690 1.3 -5.8 -35
150-200 Grains recoil 25 to 27 lbs real recl 18 to20 lbs
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Take into consideration ability to find ammo, so the 6.8 spc would not be a good choice. Think about what you are going to be able to do with the rifle, and versatility. Just read here some, and look at specs of some different types of rifles. Get a comfortable price in mind, and add 35% to that. Really. The last thing you want to do is get the gun high and buy that $600 dollar rifle, and then really wish you would have held out for that super kickass rifle of different make for $180 more. 243 is always a good option. Think about if you are comfortable paying $.45 every time you pull the trigger or $4 for the 338 lapua. If you can find the ammo. Think about maybe a scope on that new rifle. Are you going to clean the rifle with WD-40 or what. Whatever you do, do get one that will last a long time. When you find the bullet that makes you at ease, you usually find the rifle with little effort. Some good options are 7 mil mag, but it kicks more than you may want. Read on here about who likes that recoil, or what they have done to get rid of it, and start learning what is going to make you happy. Remember, I will probably not just buy one rifle of one caliber, so go with something that will last and that does not kick your ass every time you shoot it. Then, later, you will buy another of a higher or more precise for what you want that particular rifle to be. Whatever you do, have fun with it. And if you are thinking the SHTF or zombie stuff, just try to get over that as soon as possible. In my experience with all of the zombies and invisible people I have had to waste, they dont like my 185+P ammo coming out of my 1911 acp at all.
 
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Okay I will try again for the table. And as for training. You are in it. Just keep reading, googling, and inspecting. And Please, dont beleive everything, even on here, as there are some tool bags that think their $150 Leapers scope is totally comparable to NightForce on here. Try to read between what people say for the truth, then go to reviews.
 
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--------Velocity-----------------------Energy-----------------------Tradjectory
--------Muzzle---200yd---500yd----Muzzle---200yd---500yd----100yd---300yd---500yd
223----3010-----2360----1520-----1315------795-----450-------1.5-----(-7.5)---(-47.9)
--------(50 – 80 Grains)-------------(recoil 2 to 4 lbs)-------------(real recl 1 to 2 lbs)
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243----3085-----2585----1885-----1990-----1380-----770------1.5-----(-6.6)---(-41.2)
--------(75 - 100 Grains) ------------(recoil 7 to 11 lbs)-----------(real recl 4 to 7 lbs)
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260----2865-----2375----1840-----2300-----1675-----980------1.9-----(-7.5)---(-46.5)
--------(100-140 Grains)------------(recoil 11 to 14 lbs)----------(real recl 9 to 12 lbs)
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270----3060-----2485----1980-----2765-----1900-----1240-----1.5-----(-6.7)---(-43.7)
--------(125-150 Grains)------------(recoil 16 to 21 lbs)----------(real recl 13to 17 lbs)
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308----2760-----2360----1770-----2740-----1960-----1235-----1.9-----(-8.5)---(-50)
--------(150-180 Grains)-----------(recoil 15 to 19 lbs)----------(real recl 9 to 14 lbs)
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6.8spc-2700----2140----1500-----1745-----1095------560------2.3----(-10.2)--(-62.6)
--------(100-120 Grains)-----------(recoil 7 to 9 lbs)------------(real recl 5 to 7 lbs)
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7.62---2350----1780----1160-----1560-----890-------370------3.3----(-14)----(-92)
x39-----(120-155 Grains)-----------(recoil 6 to 9 lbs)----------(real recl 5 to 8 lbs)
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300WM-3150---2660----2130----3640-----2745-----1690------1.3---(-5.8)---(-35)
--------(150-200 Grains)----------(recoil 25 to 27 lbs)-----------(real recl 18 to20 lbs)
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This table is custom. Real recoil is something that took some time to develop, and is felt recoil when adding weight accessories, and muzzle break, etc. About 15 actual lbs of recoil is about all I personaly can take in a reasonable shooting session. Velocity is ft. per second, and energy is ft. lbs. and Tradj. is in inches.