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jonaddis84

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Well, its not a CNC, but for the amount of work Im doing now this will fit the bill, and Im pretty pumped about it this has been a few years of wanting.

The lathe is a 2012 Clausing Colchester 13x40. The story is that Clausing sold it to a school, they received it with a leaking gearbox seal. Instead of repairing it, they demanded a new one, so this one went back to Clausing. Clausing fixed it and sold it, obviously deeply discounted, to a dealer in Detroit which is where I purchased it. When I got it home I still had to wipe the cosmolene off the ways, so this thing never even got used. Bought it complete with an Acurite 200S DRO for $8500. Bridgeman Machinery sales was the dealer, if you ever need something like this call them I guess they get them frequently and were an absolute pleasure to deal with.

Few specs and some of the features I really like..
- Weighs around 2000lb full of fluids
- 3hp three phase motor
- 40-2500rpm
- Lead screw has a stainless guard on top to keep chips out of it
- With half nut engaged, carriage has less than .001" backlash
- Carriage feed engagement lever is spring loaded, you lift up to engage, just give it a light tap and it pops out of gear back into neutral.
- Chip tray/sump area has a door on front for easy chip removal

First order of business was VFD wiring. This looked like it was going to be a nightmare, but all in all it wasnt that bad. I removed all the wiring from the forward/reverse switches (which have both normally open and normally closed contacts on them). Ran the 24v common from the VFD to one side of each of those normally open switch contacts, other side went to the forward and reverse terminals of the VFD. Wired the foot brake into the safety stop circuit of the drive, still dont have that working how I want it yet, but Ill get there. Right now the foot brake shuts it down, but as soon as you let off it powers back up.

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I added an Aloris CXA tool post to it, little big, but nice and rigid and got it for a good deal on here.

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So far its working out awesome, the extra weight (even though it doesnt weigh two tons) is very noticeable over my old machine. Can crank on the tool post nut and not budge the machine. It also shows in the surface finish, can take the cuts carbide needs without flexing the machine and not cutting true depth. First project was the outboard spider.

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Yesterday was tool storage fabrication day. Attached a 2" steel strap to the splash pan to hold the aloris holders. Also made a little wood deal to hold the tailstock MT3 tools.

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Todays project was switching over the high pressure flushing system. Had the pump and filter mounted to the wall previously, old lathe didnt have a sump so I just had a 6 gallon bucket underneath to act as the sump. Removed the factory coolant pump and mounted the carbonator motor with Shurflo gear pump sideways in its place. Since Im using a VFD none of the factory electronics are really doing anything, so I wired the flushing pump into the factory coolant pump switch and relay. Mounted the manifold with pressure gauge and regulator up behind the headstock, couldnt really find a great place for this as the splash pan on this lathe sits back super far, didnt want to have to reach way back there to regulate the pressure.

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Final touch will be the DRO. The Acurite rep is going to be installing it later this week, he had to order the spars for it I think. Glad to be having it professionally installed, few of the other lathes I was looking at I was going to have to do it myself again, which is not fun.

Over all if you are looking for an excellent gunsmithing lathe, I highly recommend this series. I probably would never buy a new one at new prices ($13-14000), as I think that is way high. But it is an extremely well made Taiwan lathe with the Clausing name on it, I think it will hold its value much better than the dime a dozen imports out there. There always seems to be at least one or two of the older model of these used on Ebay, just finding a good deal is the trick.

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Local tech school has four of the same model. They're pretty nice. You got a great deal at that price.
 
Nice!! I'm hoping to move my monarch to my shop at the end of the month

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Good for you friend. Nothing like working hard for something nice! I noticed your little jet. I had one just like it. Good machine, just a bit to lite. If you don't mind please share with me some more info on your high pressure flush system. I still need to make one, just not sure how to do it yet. Lee
 
Its quite simple actually, seems a lot more complicated than it actually is. I got on Ebay and bought a 1/2hp carbonator motor with a ShurFlo gear pump. Make sure its not the vane pump that most of the carbonator pumps have, you need it to be the bronze gear pump. Its a self priming pump, works best I found if its close to the sump though, my previous setup had about 4ft of hose from intake of pump to the sump and it took a few seconds to prime. Now its only about 6" of hose and primes instantly.

Link to pump I actually bought
Shertech GCBN2V Bronze Gear Pump w Motor Oberdorfer Teel 4 4GPM 100PSI Shurflo | eBay

Next get on GTR tooling's website and buy the barrel flushing attachment.
Gre'-Tan Rifles

Next get on Amazon or Ebay and get a 2"x10" Pentair or similar house water filter and a 5 micron spun poly filter for it.
Filter housing
Filter

Next get on MSC and get this Conbraco relief valve. This is the key to the whole system...
https://www.mscdirect.com/product/37011921

Lastly make about 30 trips to your local hardware store to source all the barb fittings and what not to make it work. I made a little manifold, from left to right, 3/8 barb going to flushing coupler, 1/2" ball valve, close nipple, 4-way cross tee (top plugged for now, may eventually run a line to bed side of lathe for auxiliary flushing) bottom goes to pressure side of pump, close nipple, tee with 100psi pressure gauge on top, close nipple, 1/2" ball valve, pressure relief valve. The outlet of the pressure relief goes back to your sump as a bypass.

Thats about it. I do 95% of the chambering process at around 100psi, then when the micrometer stop gets close to the tenon I take it down to around 50-60psi or else you end up with oil on the other side of the shop when you pull the stop away from the tenon.

Last thing to note, and I dont know how important it is, but Id say pretty... MAGNETS MAGNETS MAGNETS. My lathe drains from the chip pan through 12 holes back into the sump, I have a 1x2" magnet at every hole to catch the fine shavings. Here is a picture after one chambering job with my old lathe where I didnt have a real sump...

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I do love the vfd's braking ability! This was 1700rpm, just turning the lathe off normally, didnt touch the foot brake at all. This was after adding the braking resistor, without it the VFD would error out when going anywhere below 1.1 seconds deceleration and even higher at anything over 1200 rpm, this is set at 0.4 seconds.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agOWONmhurI
 
Nice lathe Jon
In case anyone here is looking for a lathe like the one Jon just picked up, I called the guys at Bridgeman Machine and they have another like this in stock. The one they have now is used but in very good condition and equipped withe chucks readout ect the are asking $6000 for it. I wish I could pull the trigger but not at this time, so if anyone here is interested give them a ring
 
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Well, its not a CNC, but for the amount of work Im doing now this will fit the bill, and Im pretty pumped about it this has been a few years of wanting.

The lathe is a 2012 Clausing Colchester 13x40. The story is that Clausing sold it to a school, they received it with a leaking gearbox seal. Instead of repairing it, they demanded a new one, so this one went back to Clausing. Clausing fixed it and sold it, obviously deeply discounted, to a dealer in Detroit which is where I purchased it. When I got it home I still had to wipe the cosmolene off the ways, so this thing never even got used. Bought it complete with an Acurite 200S DRO for $8500. Bridgeman Machinery sales was the dealer, if you ever need something like this call them I guess they get them frequently and were an absolute pleasure to deal with.

Few specs and some of the features I really like..
- Weighs around 2000lb full of fluids
- 3hp three phase motor
- 40-2500rpm
- Lead screw has a stainless guard on top to keep chips out of it
- With half nut engaged, carriage has less than .001" backlash
- Carriage feed engagement lever is spring loaded, you lift up to engage, just give it a light tap and it pops out of gear back into neutral.
- Chip tray/sump area has a door on front for easy chip removal

First order of business was VFD wiring. This looked like it was going to be a nightmare, but all in all it wasnt that bad. I removed all the wiring from the forward/reverse switches (which have both normally open and normally closed contacts on them). Ran the 24v common from the VFD to one side of each of those normally open switch contacts, other side went to the forward and reverse terminals of the VFD. Wired the foot brake into the safety stop circuit of the drive, still dont have that working how I want it yet, but Ill get there. Right now the foot brake shuts it down, but as soon as you let off it powers back up.

qure2ute.jpg



I added an Aloris CXA tool post to it, little big, but nice and rigid and got it for a good deal on here.

aheze5yd.jpg



So far its working out awesome, the extra weight (even though it doesnt weigh two tons) is very noticeable over my old machine. Can crank on the tool post nut and not budge the machine. It also shows in the surface finish, can take the cuts carbide needs without flexing the machine and not cutting true depth. First project was the outboard spider.

mynybevu.jpg

rehubuge.jpg



Yesterday was tool storage fabrication day. Attached a 2" steel strap to the splash pan to hold the aloris holders. Also made a little wood deal to hold the tailstock MT3 tools.

y5unaty6.jpg



Todays project was switching over the high pressure flushing system. Had the pump and filter mounted to the wall previously, old lathe didnt have a sump so I just had a 6 gallon bucket underneath to act as the sump. Removed the factory coolant pump and mounted the carbonator motor with Shurflo gear pump sideways in its place. Since Im using a VFD none of the factory electronics are really doing anything, so I wired the flushing pump into the factory coolant pump switch and relay. Mounted the manifold with pressure gauge and regulator up behind the headstock, couldnt really find a great place for this as the splash pan on this lathe sits back super far, didnt want to have to reach way back there to regulate the pressure.

2unymyze.jpg

e8eqezu3.jpg



Final touch will be the DRO. The Acurite rep is going to be installing it later this week, he had to order the spars for it I think. Glad to be having it professionally installed, few of the other lathes I was looking at I was going to have to do it myself again, which is not fun.

Over all if you are looking for an excellent gunsmithing lathe, I highly recommend this series. I probably would never buy a new one at new prices ($13-14000), as I think that is way high. But it is an extremely well made Taiwan lathe with the Clausing name on it, I think it will hold its value much better than the dime a dozen imports out there. There always seems to be at least one or two of the older model of these used on Ebay, just finding a good deal is the trick.

ra9e8ysa.jpg

y5utuqy6.jpg

6uma8ajy.jpg