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Rifle Scopes New Leupold taking ALOT of adjustment to zero....

yarbsea

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I just got a Leupold Mark4 ERT 6.5x20 FFP and mounted it in a larue LT-104 on my ar-15 in .223.

The scope has M5 knobs, so .1 mils per click. I counted the total clicks available in elevation to be 23.2 mils, and factory zero being 11.6 mils from bottomed out.

When I went to sight it in, it was shooting almost 4 mils low from the factory zero - i.e. it took 40 (fourty) .1mil clicks UP to get the scope zero'd.

Everything works fine, but now I only have 7.3 mils available in the UP direction for shooting long range, which is only getting me to about 600 yards before I have to starting adding in hold over of 4 mils...which gets me to 900. I want to shoot 1000 yards, but need 13 mils of adjustment - which is more than the holdover + click adjustment available.


My question is, is 4 mils (40 clicks) of elevation to get it zero'd showing something wrong with the rifle? I'm sitting on a scope that has 15.9 mils available DOWN, but only 7.3 mils UP and it's driving me crazy.

Even larue's LT-158 only adds 10MOA which is 2.9 Mils approximately...which still puts me short of 1000 yards with this rifle.

Is there anything to be done? I think the weapon has tied my hands, as I can't shim the larue mount, and i'm not sure what else could be done....any inputs appreciated, and sorry for the huge first post.
 
Re: New Leupold taking ALOT of adjustment to zero....

My first thought is to swap out the upper reciever and see if possibly it's simply not milled correctly...I assume compounding of errors is making this bad.
 
Re: New Leupold taking ALOT of adjustment to zero....

It's either the rifle or, I suppose it's possible you mounted the base backwards, the throw levers should be on the left. Even then, it seems like the barrel is not square to the receiver, which is not all that strange.

So, either the barrel or receiver needs some work, or you could use the LT-107 mount to get 30 MOA of slope, getting about 6 mils of travel.
 
Re: New Leupold taking ALOT of adjustment to zero....

Well, I surely didn't mount the LT-104 backwards...not sure how retarded you'd have to be to do that...but I didn't
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Guess I need to either trade to the 10MOA mount or try swapping stripped recievers until it's true.
 
Re: New Leupold taking ALOT of adjustment to zero....

The LT-104 has no cant so it wouldn't matter if it were mounted backwards.

What brand of upper receiver do you have on this rifle?

How about some pics?
 
Re: New Leupold taking ALOT of adjustment to zero....

Might be worth taking off the barrel, making sure it is seated properly, hasn't had the indexing pin sheared off, mashed into the upper, or something. Often times the factory over torques the hell out of an AR barrel nut putting strain on the upper and warping things. Sounds like something is crooked to me. As for the mount, yea, you probably should be looking at the lt158 with its built in 10moa if you are trying to go long. I like it a bit better because it is lower anyway.

You should check that scope out on a friends rifle as well to make sure something isn't buggered with it. Got to isolate the problem.
 
Re: New Leupold taking ALOT of adjustment to zero....

So if I check the scope on another rifle - what IS reasonable amount of adjustment needed to zero?

Also, is this maybe solvable by "truing" the upper reciever where it meets the barrel - squarign it up in case there is a misalignment due to that?
 
Re: New Leupold taking ALOT of adjustment to zero....

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: kelmvor</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I just got a Leupold Mark4 ERT 6.5x20 FFP and mounted it in a larue LT-104 on my ar-15 in .223.

The scope has M5 knobs, so .1 mils per click. I counted the total clicks available in elevation to be 23.2 mils, and factory zero being 11.6 mils from bottomed out.

When I went to sight it in, it was shooting almost 4 mils low from the factory zero - i.e. it took 40 (fourty) .1mil clicks UP to get the scope zero'd.

Everything works fine, but now I only have 7.3 mils available in the UP direction for shooting long range, which is only getting me to about 600 yards before I have to starting adding in hold over of 4 mils...which gets me to 900. I want to shoot 1000 yards, but need 13 mils of adjustment - which is more than the holdover + click adjustment available.


My question is, is 4 mils (40 clicks) of elevation to get it zero'd showing something wrong with the rifle? I'm sitting on a scope that has 15.9 mils available DOWN, but only 7.3 mils UP and it's driving me crazy.

Even larue's LT-158 only adds 10MOA which is 2.9 Mils approximately...which still puts me short of 1000 yards with this rifle.

Is there anything to be done? I think the weapon has tied my hands, as I can't shim the larue mount, and i'm not sure what else could be done....any inputs appreciated, and sorry for the huge first post.

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