Bottom line: saved a while and bought a Browning LongTrac .270 w/ bushnell 3200 3-9X50 had it 3 years love it 50 yard all five shots in the same hole, 100yd i can get 2 shots in the same hole then... the barrel gets hot fast the 3rd shot always shoots 1/4 in. high and to the left. i know long range shooting is all about knowing your gun im real confident and even killed one deer at 320yd. beyond that its pretty much adjust for your ballistics and aim high! so thats gueswork. i want a gun that when i put the crosshairs on it at 4 5 6... and futher hundred yards i know that its gonna be a hit. not bragging but i think i can easily outshoot this rifle. im thinking about selling it for 1,000 and getting one that will really reach out there, have been looking at a Remington VTR in .308, a hiowa axiom, or Howa barreled action and a new stock, Savage model 10, weatherby Sub Moa. and either one of these putting a Bushnell elite 3200 5-15X40 tac. scope on it. im not like my dad and confident if i can hit a pie plate at 200yd yea thats good for deer hunting but i wanna put the crosshairs on a deer or coyote at 500+ and know hes goin down. am i throwing away my money by getting rid of the browning that i worked hard to buy, should i get a tac scope and try it, or sell it and get the new setup, i can get the 700 VTR at a local gun shop for 625 taxes inc. and the scope for 315 tax inc. please help me out and dont knock a gun if u have never shot it or seen it shot listened to people all over the net knock the VTR but everybody that owns one loves it one guy claims dime size group at 500YD and read of other nice groups at 1,000 yd.
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Welcome to the Hide! I'm not familiar with the optics that you are using, but to shot anything consisstantly @500 you are going to need some sort of a tactical scope, and of course a drop chart. The other key item needed is a bullet with a high b.c. Berger is making some VLD's that you may be able to use in the rifle you have. A VLD will work on deer and coyote's. You may not need a new gun, you may be able to accomplice what you want with reloading and building some drop charts.
A friend of mine has a factory Browning Abolt in 25-06 that shoots VLD bullets like a house a fire. The light barrel does heat up fast, but if all you want it for is hunting you really shouldn't need more than one or two shots anyway. If you want to bang away at targets 500+ yards all day, then you should look at a new build.
Welcome to the Hide! I'm not familiar with the optics that you are using, but to shot anything consisstantly @500 you are going to need some sort of a tactical scope, and of course a drop chart. The other key item needed is a bullet with a high b.c. Berger is making some VLD's that you may be able to use in the rifle you have. A VLD will work on deer and coyote's. You may not need a new gun, you may be able to accomplice what you want with reloading and building some drop charts.
A friend of mine has a factory Browning Abolt in 25-06 that shoots VLD bullets like a house a fire. The light barrel does heat up fast, but if all you want it for is hunting you really shouldn't need more than one or two shots anyway. If you want to bang away at targets 500+ yards all day, then you should look at a new build.
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read it before i posted this along with all the other reviews on the net. that review is not negative but not absolutely positive like most but the best group was .448 most reviews have an average .6. its still a sub moa gun witch is fine with me. is selling this gun worth buying one?
read it before i posted this along with all the other reviews on the net. that review is not negative but not absolutely positive like most but the best group was .448 most reviews have an average .6. its still a sub moa gun witch is fine with me. is selling this gun worth buying one?
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Read that gun will not take match ammo and most high power factory ammo, most boxes have a caution not to shoot in an automatic. its gas operated so any ammo is not getting the velocity that it would get out of a bolt action rifle. and these new recievers are aluminum not steel like the old one. have a 1980 BAR in the cabinet been cleaned maybe one, steel reciever. been hunted with every year since 1980 could not count the rounds thats been thru it and it still shoots scarry accurate for a never cleaned 1980 automatic
Read that gun will not take match ammo and most high power factory ammo, most boxes have a caution not to shoot in an automatic. its gas operated so any ammo is not getting the velocity that it would get out of a bolt action rifle. and these new recievers are aluminum not steel like the old one. have a 1980 BAR in the cabinet been cleaned maybe one, steel reciever. been hunted with every year since 1980 could not count the rounds thats been thru it and it still shoots scarry accurate for a never cleaned 1980 automatic
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The advantage with buying a .308 in anything in my mind is longevity. You can put a lot of rounds down the pipe before you wear it out. Way less noise and recoil than you .270, I'm not dogging that round, it is one of the best. If you buy a factory rifle your getting a mass produced rifle. Some shoot really well, some don't. If you buy a Remington you can really improve on it later when you can afford it. We all started somewhere, but a short action Remington is a great foundation to build on. It really depends on what you want to do with it. I love to shoot sub half inch groups at 100 as much as the next guy. I like putting 5 in a 3 inch circle at 500 even more!
The advantage with buying a .308 in anything in my mind is longevity. You can put a lot of rounds down the pipe before you wear it out. Way less noise and recoil than you .270, I'm not dogging that round, it is one of the best. If you buy a factory rifle your getting a mass produced rifle. Some shoot really well, some don't. If you buy a Remington you can really improve on it later when you can afford it. We all started somewhere, but a short action Remington is a great foundation to build on. It really depends on what you want to do with it. I love to shoot sub half inch groups at 100 as much as the next guy. I like putting 5 in a 3 inch circle at 500 even more!
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ima get it tomorrow, ur last two sentences says it, punching paper long range is fun, and it takes time and rounds and paper but will def. have the video link posted when i put an animal down at 500+, and itll be even better when the deer season gets here and the nasty windy fronts start coming through, paper is fun but with an animal u have to take the conditions as they are.
ima get it tomorrow, ur last two sentences says it, punching paper long range is fun, and it takes time and rounds and paper but will def. have the video link posted when i put an animal down at 500+, and itll be even better when the deer season gets here and the nasty windy fronts start coming through, paper is fun but with an animal u have to take the conditions as they are.
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A friend of mine bought a Remington .308 XCR about a year and a half ago, Badger .20 MOA rail and rings, up graded to a jewel trigger, Luepold LRT Mark 4. It shoots .5 MOA all day long. He also put a Karsten check piece on it. He is adding things to it as he can afford to. A lot on how any rifle ends up shooting depends on how the barrel was broke in. He cleaned it after every shot until the copper was gone for the first 15 rounds, then cleaned it after every 3 shot group for 12 rounds, then every 20 rounds until he got to 100. Its a pain, everyone has their own break in procedure, but it does make a difference. Good luck, let us know how it turns out.
A friend of mine bought a Remington .308 XCR about a year and a half ago, Badger .20 MOA rail and rings, up graded to a jewel trigger, Luepold LRT Mark 4. It shoots .5 MOA all day long. He also put a Karsten check piece on it. He is adding things to it as he can afford to. A lot on how any rifle ends up shooting depends on how the barrel was broke in. He cleaned it after every shot until the copper was gone for the first 15 rounds, then cleaned it after every 3 shot group for 12 rounds, then every 20 rounds until he got to 100. Its a pain, everyone has their own break in procedure, but it does make a difference. Good luck, let us know how it turns out.
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Be suspicious of anyone claiming dime size groups at 500yds with any rifle, but especially with a VTR.
I have a friend that has a VTR, there are better rifles for the money you'll spend. The stock is cheap (injection molded) and the barrell isn't free floated. His shoots about 1 MOA with FGMM 168 gr ammo (so, with perfect shooting and wind reading that would be little over 5 inches at 500 yds, not quite dime size groups).
I'd look into a Remington 700 LTR
Be suspicious of anyone claiming dime size groups at 500yds with any rifle, but especially with a VTR.
I have a friend that has a VTR, there are better rifles for the money you'll spend. The stock is cheap (injection molded) and the barrell isn't free floated. His shoots about 1 MOA with FGMM 168 gr ammo (so, with perfect shooting and wind reading that would be little over 5 inches at 500 yds, not quite dime size groups).
I'd look into a Remington 700 LTR
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I'd agree with the above, that their are better Remington 700 models available for what you're looking to do near your price range. The LTR, 5R MilSpec, 700P, LVSF, etc.. for short actions & the Sendero and 700P in LA's....
I'd agree with the above, that their are better Remington 700 models available for what you're looking to do near your price range. The LTR, 5R MilSpec, 700P, LVSF, etc.. for short actions & the Sendero and 700P in LA's....
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GAprecision.net
I heard their rifles are ok...
lol. I have one and its ridiculous. With my Savage 10fp or rem 700 I used to struggle and struggle to get a consistent .5 moa.. reloading, different bullets, powders, primers blah blah blah. All a waste of time.
I got a GAP... first load I made, just some random powder charge (from a manual of course but no load testing), no detailed case prep or sorting of bullets and brass... Most of my groups were under 3/8" at 100. under 2" at 300.
GAprecision.net
I heard their rifles are ok...
lol. I have one and its ridiculous. With my Savage 10fp or rem 700 I used to struggle and struggle to get a consistent .5 moa.. reloading, different bullets, powders, primers blah blah blah. All a waste of time.
I got a GAP... first load I made, just some random powder charge (from a manual of course but no load testing), no detailed case prep or sorting of bullets and brass... Most of my groups were under 3/8" at 100. under 2" at 300.
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