Ruger SR-556
Looks like it has all the bells and whistles with Troy quad rail and BUIS, 3 Magpul mags, soft case, Hogue grip, etc.
MSRP: $1995, a dealer told me.
Chris
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Ruger SR-556
Looks like it has all the bells and whistles with Troy quad rail and BUIS, 3 Magpul mags, soft case, Hogue grip, etc.
MSRP: $1995, a dealer told me.
Chris
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I like! The price is going to have to drop a bit though.
I like! The price is going to have to drop a bit though.
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I guess it was about time. Everyone else seems to be getting on board with some type of AR, why not Ruger. Looks like a pretty good set-up.
I guess it was about time. Everyone else seems to be getting on board with some type of AR, why not Ruger. Looks like a pretty good set-up.
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A couple of my favorite Bill Ruger quotes:
"No honest man needs more than ten rounds in any gun."
"I see nothing wrong with waiting periods."
Fuck Bill Ruger's rotting corpse and everthing that bears his name.
A couple of my favorite Bill Ruger quotes:
"No honest man needs more than ten rounds in any gun."
"I see nothing wrong with waiting periods."
Fuck Bill Ruger's rotting corpse and everthing that bears his name.
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I wonder how long before it is recalled?
I wonder how long before it is recalled?
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Just Roy</div><div class="ubbcode-body">A couple of my favorite Bill Ruger quotes:
"No honest man needs more than ten rounds in any gun."
"I see nothing wrong with waiting periods."
Fuck Bill Ruger's rotting corpse and everthing that bears his name. </div></div>
This
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Just Roy</div><div class="ubbcode-body">A couple of my favorite Bill Ruger quotes:
"No honest man needs more than ten rounds in any gun."
"I see nothing wrong with waiting periods."
Fuck Bill Ruger's rotting corpse and everthing that bears his name. </div></div>
This
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For that price I'll buy a GAP AR-10... That's just silly expensive for an AR-15!
For that price I'll buy a GAP AR-10... That's just silly expensive for an AR-15!
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Just Roy</div><div class="ubbcode-body">A couple of my favorite Bill Ruger quotes:
"No honest man needs more than ten rounds in any gun."
"I see nothing wrong with waiting periods."
Fuck Bill Ruger's rotting corpse and everthing that bears his name. </div></div>
+1 billion. That's the exact reason why I bought a Rem 597 instead of a 10/22.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Just Roy</div><div class="ubbcode-body">A couple of my favorite Bill Ruger quotes:
"No honest man needs more than ten rounds in any gun."
"I see nothing wrong with waiting periods."
Fuck Bill Ruger's rotting corpse and everthing that bears his name. </div></div>
+1 billion. That's the exact reason why I bought a Rem 597 instead of a 10/22.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Bacarrat</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Just Roy</div><div class="ubbcode-body">A couple of my favorite Bill Ruger quotes:
"No honest man needs more than ten rounds in any gun."
"I see nothing wrong with waiting periods."
Fuck Bill Ruger's rotting corpse and everthing that bears his name. </div></div>
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Yeps.......
Too many top tier manufactures to drop 2k on IMO. 2k is a complete LMT with aimpoint and somekind of BUIS.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Bacarrat</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Just Roy</div><div class="ubbcode-body">A couple of my favorite Bill Ruger quotes:
"No honest man needs more than ten rounds in any gun."
"I see nothing wrong with waiting periods."
Fuck Bill Ruger's rotting corpse and everthing that bears his name. </div></div>
This </div></div>
Yeps.......
Too many top tier manufactures to drop 2k on IMO. 2k is a complete LMT with aimpoint and somekind of BUIS.
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A very old, and independent man, who co-founded and ran one of the last great privately owned manufacturing companies in America, might be forgiven a crusty outburst, opinion or unpleasant position after his death. Given the contributions he made to the nation and the industry, I'd characterize his position on this issue as unfortunate and leave the invective for people who really mean us ill. You are certainly entitled to your opinions as well.
I wish Ruger made large cap mags as the quality of their Mini 14 mags is so far superior to any of the other, after market garbage, made to work in that rifle.
A very old, and independent man, who co-founded and ran one of the last great privately owned manufacturing companies in America, might be forgiven a crusty outburst, opinion or unpleasant position after his death. Given the contributions he made to the nation and the industry, I'd characterize his position on this issue as unfortunate and leave the invective for people who really mean us ill. You are certainly entitled to your opinions as well.
I wish Ruger made large cap mags as the quality of their Mini 14 mags is so far superior to any of the other, after market garbage, made to work in that rifle.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: queequeg</div><div class="ubbcode-body">A very old, and independent man, who co-founded and ran one of the last great privately owned manufacturing companies in America, might be forgiven a crusty outburst, opinion or unpleasant position after his death. Given the contributions he made to the nation and the industry, I'd characterize his position on this issue as unfortunate and leave the invective for people who really mean us ill. You are certainly entitled to your opinions as well.
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Sturm and Ruger built their company on pioneering less-expensive and lower quality manufacturing methods designed to underbid their competition. Their sole intention was making a buck, not building firearms. Hell, Ruger even tried selling his own brand of automobile for a while. And a Ruger-owned foundry is currently one of the largest producers of golf clubs. While the name Ruger is most synonymous with firearms, it is clearly a source of income for the company and hardly their passion.
I'm not sure I agree on the importance of his contribution to this Country and this industry. A greedy entrepreneur dressed in a patriot's and innovator's clothing.
Just my opinion . . .
My biggest interest with this new Ruger AR is whether or not the receivers are investment cast aluminum. I can't wait to hear how their marketing firm is going to pitch it. It will be entertaining.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: queequeg</div><div class="ubbcode-body">A very old, and independent man, who co-founded and ran one of the last great privately owned manufacturing companies in America, might be forgiven a crusty outburst, opinion or unpleasant position after his death. Given the contributions he made to the nation and the industry, I'd characterize his position on this issue as unfortunate and leave the invective for people who really mean us ill. You are certainly entitled to your opinions as well.
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Sturm and Ruger built their company on pioneering less-expensive and lower quality manufacturing methods designed to underbid their competition. Their sole intention was making a buck, not building firearms. Hell, Ruger even tried selling his own brand of automobile for a while. And a Ruger-owned foundry is currently one of the largest producers of golf clubs. While the name Ruger is most synonymous with firearms, it is clearly a source of income for the company and hardly their passion.
I'm not sure I agree on the importance of his contribution to this Country and this industry. A greedy entrepreneur dressed in a patriot's and innovator's clothing.
Just my opinion . . .
My biggest interest with this new Ruger AR is whether or not the receivers are investment cast aluminum. I can't wait to hear how their marketing firm is going to pitch it. It will be entertaining.
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An honest man may not need more than 10 rounds, true.
But the government has no right to restrict our rights to bear arms. Two completely different topics. He was a sell out.
An honest man may not need more than 10 rounds, true.
But the government has no right to restrict our rights to bear arms. Two completely different topics. He was a sell out.
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bet it shoots like a Ruger...JUNK
bet it shoots like a Ruger...JUNK
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It looks like a piston driven upper? I would have to see who makes these for ruger, even the M&Ps cost around $1800 with the same looking setup. Most everyone gets their parts made by someone else(The companies jumping into the AR market that is)
Truth is for that cost LMTs are a by far better AR than most I have had the time to shoot. Ruger has always pissed me off with his anti freedom of gun choice laws. We should have the freedom to have as many rounds as we find fit. 10 rounds in a hunting rifle a little excessive but a semi auto needs at least twice that or you would spend your whole day loading mags. Does anyone know the specs on the new ruger? I think I would rather stick with LMT, DPMS, M&Ps all I have found to be reliable as hell.
It looks like a piston driven upper? I would have to see who makes these for ruger, even the M&Ps cost around $1800 with the same looking setup. Most everyone gets their parts made by someone else(The companies jumping into the AR market that is)
Truth is for that cost LMTs are a by far better AR than most I have had the time to shoot. Ruger has always pissed me off with his anti freedom of gun choice laws. We should have the freedom to have as many rounds as we find fit. 10 rounds in a hunting rifle a little excessive but a semi auto needs at least twice that or you would spend your whole day loading mags. Does anyone know the specs on the new ruger? I think I would rather stick with LMT, DPMS, M&Ps all I have found to be reliable as hell.
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Checked the gun out, it is piston driven so the price is not all that bad concidering what other brands would cost with the same setup. Truth is I won't buy Ruger but this setup looks ok, as long as they purchased and had the guns built by someone other than ruger!
Checked the gun out, it is piston driven so the price is not all that bad concidering what other brands would cost with the same setup. Truth is I won't buy Ruger but this setup looks ok, as long as they purchased and had the guns built by someone other than ruger!
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Boy it sure is easy to be a tough guy to a man who is dead and accomplished more in his life than any of us. You invented What? You gave how much to the NRA and pro gun politicians? You built what successful gun company thet employes how many people?
As for Rugers not shooting.... have you been behind the 22 bull barrel target pistol?
The 204 Varmint? The 308 target? or even my 45-70 #3 that will cloverleaf three full bore loads at 100? No ?...... I thought so.
If you have no facts and don't respect you passed betters then I suggest the following:
STFU !
As for recalls, I have yet to see any maker of "5 shot" single actions (you know the one that go boom if you drop them with 6 in the cylinder) EXCEPT Ruger.
We'll see how it shoots when it gets tested and I'm sure the street price will be less.
Take a basic AR add all the extras this comes with and the price is?
I have owned Ruger semi 22s, 9mm and 45 pistols, various single actions, #1s #3s and 77s. They all worked. So where's the beef?
Boy it sure is easy to be a tough guy to a man who is dead and accomplished more in his life than any of us. You invented What? You gave how much to the NRA and pro gun politicians? You built what successful gun company thet employes how many people?
As for Rugers not shooting.... have you been behind the 22 bull barrel target pistol?
The 204 Varmint? The 308 target? or even my 45-70 #3 that will cloverleaf three full bore loads at 100? No ?...... I thought so.
If you have no facts and don't respect you passed betters then I suggest the following:
STFU !
As for recalls, I have yet to see any maker of "5 shot" single actions (you know the one that go boom if you drop them with 6 in the cylinder) EXCEPT Ruger.
We'll see how it shoots when it gets tested and I'm sure the street price will be less.
Take a basic AR add all the extras this comes with and the price is?
I have owned Ruger semi 22s, 9mm and 45 pistols, various single actions, #1s #3s and 77s. They all worked. So where's the beef?
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Mr. Humble</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Boy it sure is easy to be a tough guy to a man who is dead and accomplished more in his life than any of us. You invented What? You gave how much to the NRA and pro gun politicians? You built what successful gun company thet employes how many people?
As for Rugers not shooting.... have you been behind the 22 bull barrel target pistol?
The 204 Varmint? The 308 target? or even my 45-70 #3 that will cloverleaf three full bore loads at 100? No ?...... I thought so.
If you have no facts and don't respect you passed betters then I suggest the following:
STFU !
As for recalls, I have yet to see any maker of "5 shot" single actions (you know the one that go boom if you drop them with 6 in the cylinder) EXCEPT Ruger.
We'll see how it shoots when it gets tested and I'm sure the street price will be less.
Take a basic AR add all the extras this comes with and the price is?
I have owned Ruger semi 22s, 9mm and 45 pistols, various single actions, #1s #3s and 77s. They all worked. So where's the beef? </div></div>
Not everyone is all bad or all good. Ruger keeping jobs in this country is a great deal and the money it produces to family's in this country is something we need right now.
Lets face it the M77 and 10-22 line is what has made this company. The owner may have given money to the NRA but so do most people on this site. I wonder if MidwayUSA has given more than Ruger? At least they are one hundred percent pro gun! I have owned Rugers and Sold all but one my M77 stainless 7mm magnum with mauser action. The gun produces factory 1/2 MOA @100 yards. Truth is most of the Ruger stuff I have owned was worth what you paid for it. I just found I speant to much cash on updating their crappy parts with new ones to ever buy one again. The M77 is the only gun of theirs that I like.
I doubt ruger put these guns together themselves and thats why they might not be so bad.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Mr. Humble</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Boy it sure is easy to be a tough guy to a man who is dead and accomplished more in his life than any of us. You invented What? You gave how much to the NRA and pro gun politicians? You built what successful gun company thet employes how many people?
As for Rugers not shooting.... have you been behind the 22 bull barrel target pistol?
The 204 Varmint? The 308 target? or even my 45-70 #3 that will cloverleaf three full bore loads at 100? No ?...... I thought so.
If you have no facts and don't respect you passed betters then I suggest the following:
STFU !
As for recalls, I have yet to see any maker of "5 shot" single actions (you know the one that go boom if you drop them with 6 in the cylinder) EXCEPT Ruger.
We'll see how it shoots when it gets tested and I'm sure the street price will be less.
Take a basic AR add all the extras this comes with and the price is?
I have owned Ruger semi 22s, 9mm and 45 pistols, various single actions, #1s #3s and 77s. They all worked. So where's the beef? </div></div>
Not everyone is all bad or all good. Ruger keeping jobs in this country is a great deal and the money it produces to family's in this country is something we need right now.
Lets face it the M77 and 10-22 line is what has made this company. The owner may have given money to the NRA but so do most people on this site. I wonder if MidwayUSA has given more than Ruger? At least they are one hundred percent pro gun! I have owned Rugers and Sold all but one my M77 stainless 7mm magnum with mauser action. The gun produces factory 1/2 MOA @100 yards. Truth is most of the Ruger stuff I have owned was worth what you paid for it. I just found I speant to much cash on updating their crappy parts with new ones to ever buy one again. The M77 is the only gun of theirs that I like.
I doubt ruger put these guns together themselves and thats why they might not be so bad.
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bill ruger was the industries driving force behind the Clinton "assault weapon" (sic) ban.
He supposedly even drafted part of it and had proof read the whole bill giving it his "blessings".
He thought little of those who bought his products and made this "political" move in an effort to insure the legality of his own creations (namely his beloved mini-14) while at the same time destroying the competition (read ar-15).
Maybe a shrewd business man, but no friend of the 2nd amendment.
When the NRA gave him honors I knew they had sold out.
Supporting ruger says that you either: forgot what they pulled, never knew what they did, don't care, or you forgave them.
I will not forget/forgive, and their AR pisses me off a little.
I could easily say "No honest man needs more than 5 rounds in any bolt action rifle".
That's a rather arbitrary statement don't you think?
Why not one round..........or better yet .....none.
bill ruger was the industries driving force behind the Clinton "assault weapon" (sic) ban.
He supposedly even drafted part of it and had proof read the whole bill giving it his "blessings".
He thought little of those who bought his products and made this "political" move in an effort to insure the legality of his own creations (namely his beloved mini-14) while at the same time destroying the competition (read ar-15).
Maybe a shrewd business man, but no friend of the 2nd amendment.
When the NRA gave him honors I knew they had sold out.
Supporting ruger says that you either: forgot what they pulled, never knew what they did, don't care, or you forgave them.
I will not forget/forgive, and their AR pisses me off a little.
I could easily say "No honest man needs more than 5 rounds in any bolt action rifle".
That's a rather arbitrary statement don't you think?
Why not one round..........or better yet .....none.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Rovieairto</div><div class="ubbcode-body">bill ruger was the industries driving force behind the Clinton "assault weapon" (sic) ban.
He supposedly even drafted part of it and had proof read the whole bill giving it his "blessings".
He thought little of those who bought his products and made this "political" move in an effort to insure the legality of his own creations (namely his beloved mini-14) while at the same time destroying the competition (read ar-15).
Maybe a shrewd business man, but no friend of the 2nd amendment.
When the NRA gave him honors I knew they had sold out.
Supporting ruger says that you either: forgot what they pulled, never knew what they did, don't care, or you forgave them.
I will not forget/forgive, and their AR pisses me off a little.
I could easily say "No honest man needs more than 5 rounds in any bolt action rifle".
That's a rather arbitrary statement don't you think?
Why not one round..........or better yet .....none.
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We need to stand up to companies that sell guns based on the Second Amendment and fights the very cause they profit from! The NRA I belive did not do us any favores in the last election. With all the money being given why is their voice so little heard?
Ruger may be smart as he started a wealthy company but he was in bed with the crooks who, if had their way would outlaw all guns in a heart beat. He never opoligized for his actions so to forgive is just stupid!
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Rovieairto</div><div class="ubbcode-body">bill ruger was the industries driving force behind the Clinton "assault weapon" (sic) ban.
He supposedly even drafted part of it and had proof read the whole bill giving it his "blessings".
He thought little of those who bought his products and made this "political" move in an effort to insure the legality of his own creations (namely his beloved mini-14) while at the same time destroying the competition (read ar-15).
Maybe a shrewd business man, but no friend of the 2nd amendment.
When the NRA gave him honors I knew they had sold out.
Supporting ruger says that you either: forgot what they pulled, never knew what they did, don't care, or you forgave them.
I will not forget/forgive, and their AR pisses me off a little.
I could easily say "No honest man needs more than 5 rounds in any bolt action rifle".
That's a rather arbitrary statement don't you think?
Why not one round..........or better yet .....none.
</div></div>
We need to stand up to companies that sell guns based on the Second Amendment and fights the very cause they profit from! The NRA I belive did not do us any favores in the last election. With all the money being given why is their voice so little heard?
Ruger may be smart as he started a wealthy company but he was in bed with the crooks who, if had their way would outlaw all guns in a heart beat. He never opoligized for his actions so to forgive is just stupid!
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I say this is more internet bullshit. Let's see you produce the actual written testimony either in reputable publications or before government agencies to support all this slander.
Hell you probably believe FEMA is building camps to lock you up!
I'm a lot more worried about people who are alive RIGHT NOW!
You "experts" might want to look at
http://www.ruger.com/SR556/pdf/SpecSheet.pdf
before running your pie holes to what it is and what features it has compared to a basic M-16!!!!
I say this is more internet bullshit. Let's see you produce the actual written testimony either in reputable publications or before government agencies to support all this slander.
Hell you probably believe FEMA is building camps to lock you up!
I'm a lot more worried about people who are alive RIGHT NOW!
You "experts" might want to look at
http://www.ruger.com/SR556/pdf/SpecSheet.pdf
before running your pie holes to what it is and what features it has compared to a basic M-16!!!!
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Bill Ruger is dead. He wanted to make "sporting arms". They have made some good guns and some horrible guns over the years. The new management seems very focused on the real reason for guns.
I hated Bill Ruger's thinking. I am willing to cut the new company management some slack. They seem to be on the right track, now I can just whine about the 1/9 twist. What were they thinking????
Bill Ruger is dead. He wanted to make "sporting arms". They have made some good guns and some horrible guns over the years. The new management seems very focused on the real reason for guns.
I hated Bill Ruger's thinking. I am willing to cut the new company management some slack. They seem to be on the right track, now I can just whine about the 1/9 twist. What were they thinking????
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No one is PERFECT, but I am very happy with my Ruger SAs, and I wish I never sold my Old Army because it might prove to be VERY valuable in the near future. I also have never seen as nice of a rifle as the No. 1s for close to the same money.
No one is PERFECT, but I am very happy with my Ruger SAs, and I wish I never sold my Old Army because it might prove to be VERY valuable in the near future. I also have never seen as nice of a rifle as the No. 1s for close to the same money.
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I stand by my statement. I respected him, did not always agree with him and was saddened at his passing that I never got to speak with him. He was a giant in my home state, was very good to people I care about and, as no man is perfect, I forgive him any notion on which he may have been wrong.
I stand by my statement. I respected him, did not always agree with him and was saddened at his passing that I never got to speak with him. He was a giant in my home state, was very good to people I care about and, as no man is perfect, I forgive him any notion on which he may have been wrong.
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Horrible guns? Give me a break? A push feed post 64 M 70 was horrible, a pot metal 94 was horrible, Impressed checkered, extractor busting 700 BDLs were horrible, The 710 is horrible.
I never owned a Ruger handgun that didn't always work.
The bolt guns needed a better trigger (as did all lawyer guns) and plenty were/are made.
The mini 14s were not tack driver but I sure saw a lot on dogsleds up north where maintaining a gun is unknown.
The O/U shotguns were not my thing, but their side by side worked fine for me until I got talked out of it for a 30% profit.
I'm sure you all sold your S&Ws when the Brits bought them and sold us out to Clinton... Right? UH HUH!
Final question how many gun owners do you know who belong to AARP? Sell outs right? A real big socialist ant-gun adgenda RIGHT NOW!
Horrible guns? Give me a break? A push feed post 64 M 70 was horrible, a pot metal 94 was horrible, Impressed checkered, extractor busting 700 BDLs were horrible, The 710 is horrible.
I never owned a Ruger handgun that didn't always work.
The bolt guns needed a better trigger (as did all lawyer guns) and plenty were/are made.
The mini 14s were not tack driver but I sure saw a lot on dogsleds up north where maintaining a gun is unknown.
The O/U shotguns were not my thing, but their side by side worked fine for me until I got talked out of it for a 30% profit.
I'm sure you all sold your S&Ws when the Brits bought them and sold us out to Clinton... Right? UH HUH!
Final question how many gun owners do you know who belong to AARP? Sell outs right? A real big socialist ant-gun adgenda RIGHT NOW!
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Bill Ruger did what he had to do.
Which is what most real men do.
Give the guy a freaking break already.
So what if he made some stupid statements, like any of us never do?
I own a ruger 22/45, a blackhawk .357, a .40 police carbine.
Everyone of them has provided years of trouble free service.
I would not buy the Ruger AR simply because i think it IS overpriced.
But it will sell. especially if it is the ONLY one available when a guy want one.
Thanks for posting the rifle, which was the original context of this post, NOT if Bill Ruger was a sell out or not.
Bill Ruger did what he had to do.
Which is what most real men do.
Give the guy a freaking break already.
So what if he made some stupid statements, like any of us never do?
I own a ruger 22/45, a blackhawk .357, a .40 police carbine.
Everyone of them has provided years of trouble free service.
I would not buy the Ruger AR simply because i think it IS overpriced.
But it will sell. especially if it is the ONLY one available when a guy want one.
Thanks for posting the rifle, which was the original context of this post, NOT if Bill Ruger was a sell out or not.
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If not familiar with firearms and advancement of technology and judging a gun by the level of noise it makes, Ruger does just fine. It's not the design, it's the poor quality of materials and labor.
If not familiar with firearms and advancement of technology and judging a gun by the level of noise it makes, Ruger does just fine. It's not the design, it's the poor quality of materials and labor.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_B._Ruger
http://www.thegunzone.com/rkba/papabill.html
It's about as accurate as I remember.
ruger makes fine firearms I've heard, but I still choose not to support them and I wish that others would do the same.
Oh well, my loss right?
Capitalism.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_B._Ruger
http://www.thegunzone.com/rkba/papabill.html
It's about as accurate as I remember.
ruger makes fine firearms I've heard, but I still choose not to support them and I wish that others would do the same.
Oh well, my loss right?
Capitalism.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Mr. Humble</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Horrible guns? Give me a break? A push feed post 64 M 70 was horrible, a pot metal 94 was horrible, Impressed checkered, extractor busting 700 BDLs were horrible, The 710 is horrible.
I never owned a Ruger handgun that didn't always work.
The bolt guns needed a better trigger (as did all lawyer guns) and plenty were/are made.
The mini 14s were not tack driver but I sure saw a lot on dogsleds up north where maintaining a gun is unknown.
The O/U shotguns were not my thing, but their side by side worked fine for me until I got talked out of it for a 30% profit.
I'm sure you all sold your S&Ws when the Brits bought them and sold us out to Clinton... Right? UH HUH!
Final question how many gun owners do you know who belong to AARP? Sell outs right? A real big socialist ant-gun adgenda RIGHT NOW!
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Its funny having a name like Mr Humble who is more than obvious a huge Ruger owner who is so humble he can't realize their short upcomings. I do agree that AARP is a large anti gun org. But the fact is that you said give you actual evidence to prove Ruger said those things yet you provide nothing when attacking AARP but your own words. While most everyone knows what words have been said and what words have not, its funny though to say AARP is wrong yet forgive Mr Ruger's anti freedom of the 2nd amendment by making comments against other guns that he never produced. If DPMS made comments against AR owners and pushed for a ban of their guns we would all agree they would be stupid. So forgive me but just becouse he is dead we need to forget, Sorry but don't think so.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Mr. Humble</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Horrible guns? Give me a break? A push feed post 64 M 70 was horrible, a pot metal 94 was horrible, Impressed checkered, extractor busting 700 BDLs were horrible, The 710 is horrible.
I never owned a Ruger handgun that didn't always work.
The bolt guns needed a better trigger (as did all lawyer guns) and plenty were/are made.
The mini 14s were not tack driver but I sure saw a lot on dogsleds up north where maintaining a gun is unknown.
The O/U shotguns were not my thing, but their side by side worked fine for me until I got talked out of it for a 30% profit.
I'm sure you all sold your S&Ws when the Brits bought them and sold us out to Clinton... Right? UH HUH!
Final question how many gun owners do you know who belong to AARP? Sell outs right? A real big socialist ant-gun adgenda RIGHT NOW!
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Its funny having a name like Mr Humble who is more than obvious a huge Ruger owner who is so humble he can't realize their short upcomings. I do agree that AARP is a large anti gun org. But the fact is that you said give you actual evidence to prove Ruger said those things yet you provide nothing when attacking AARP but your own words. While most everyone knows what words have been said and what words have not, its funny though to say AARP is wrong yet forgive Mr Ruger's anti freedom of the 2nd amendment by making comments against other guns that he never produced. If DPMS made comments against AR owners and pushed for a ban of their guns we would all agree they would be stupid. So forgive me but just becouse he is dead we need to forget, Sorry but don't think so.
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Oh and one last thing will everyone stop saying how this thing is over priced when every other gun with the same setup cost the same or more. Look into the prices of the POF, SIG 556, LMTs and shut up on the over priced comments already. Guns cost alot of money, lets face it. Try to build the gun shown for anything under with the same rails and everything.
Oh and one last thing will everyone stop saying how this thing is over priced when every other gun with the same setup cost the same or more. Look into the prices of the POF, SIG 556, LMTs and shut up on the over priced comments already. Guns cost alot of money, lets face it. Try to build the gun shown for anything under with the same rails and everything.
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I really don't care one way or another about what Bill Ruger might or might not have said or why he got into making/selling guns.
What's more important here is that another major U.S. mfg. has jumped aboard the AR wagon. The more "sporting" arms mfgs that are marketing an AR platform (whether they actually produce the parts or not) the more the industry as a whole has to lose if another ban is attempted. This only adds strength to the cause of defeating another ban attempt in the name of saving a product line heavily invested in.
Good for Ruger, good for all of us.
I really don't care one way or another about what Bill Ruger might or might not have said or why he got into making/selling guns.
What's more important here is that another major U.S. mfg. has jumped aboard the AR wagon. The more "sporting" arms mfgs that are marketing an AR platform (whether they actually produce the parts or not) the more the industry as a whole has to lose if another ban is attempted. This only adds strength to the cause of defeating another ban attempt in the name of saving a product line heavily invested in.
Good for Ruger, good for all of us.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">This only adds strength to the cause of defeating another ban attempt in the name of saving a product line heavily invested in.
Good for Ruger, good for all of us. </div></div>
I think so too!
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">This only adds strength to the cause of defeating another ban attempt in the name of saving a product line heavily invested in.
Good for Ruger, good for all of us. </div></div>
I think so too!
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It's nothing revolutionary, but as pointed out above, the more AR manufacturers we have in this country the better.
It's nothing revolutionary, but as pointed out above, the more AR manufacturers we have in this country the better.
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A little late in the game. I think I'll stick with my Sig556 for a piston-driven .556. If and when I run into a good deal on an FNC, I'll buy that, but otherwise my Sig or my WASR will do just fine. If I'm in the mood for spending a little more time cleaning, then one of the ARs can follow me to the range.
A little late in the game. I think I'll stick with my Sig556 for a piston-driven .556. If and when I run into a good deal on an FNC, I'll buy that, but otherwise my Sig or my WASR will do just fine. If I'm in the mood for spending a little more time cleaning, then one of the ARs can follow me to the range.
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The BS just doesn't stop does it? Poor quality and materials, yeah sure, those all steel M77s with walnut stocks are sure crappy materials and those investment cast parts are breaking all the time..right...gee wonder why S&W is now using them too? Maybe it has something to do with faster production at lower cost with equal quality...
AS for AARP: why don't you check out the public record and see who in government all their (your) money goes to. Hint it's not folks highly rated by the NRA.
And then we have the NRA, yeah don't join or contribute, they don't agree with you on EVERYTHING. Maybe the Michigan Militia lobby is doing more for you keeping your gun rights?
Finally the gas piston AR "facts". How many of you have actually shot any AR without cleaning it until it will not work? Well I, just for grins, shot 500 rounds of German Mil-Spec 7.62 NATO through my DPMS 16" TAC (see below) without a hiccup. Upon taking it apart, it was no more dirt than my Benelli 12 bore after 5 rounds of clays (also 500 rounds).... so much for another myth. (you might want to check out how the Benelli's OS works). BTW anyone ever seen an M-1 that was used aboard ship with a rusted in place operating rod from salt air in the gas cylinder?
As for being a "Ruger shill" as of today I own one, the 45-70, BUT I'll be waiting for the Gun Tests review of this one because my only AR15 is a Sweet 16 which is not light.
So get over the vendetta against a dead guy (I stopped bitching about LBJ a long time ago and he almost got me killed), to quote the liar speaking at Notre Dame today:"lets look to the future."
Nuff said, you may continue the fight without me.
The BS just doesn't stop does it? Poor quality and materials, yeah sure, those all steel M77s with walnut stocks are sure crappy materials and those investment cast parts are breaking all the time..right...gee wonder why S&W is now using them too? Maybe it has something to do with faster production at lower cost with equal quality...
AS for AARP: why don't you check out the public record and see who in government all their (your) money goes to. Hint it's not folks highly rated by the NRA.
And then we have the NRA, yeah don't join or contribute, they don't agree with you on EVERYTHING. Maybe the Michigan Militia lobby is doing more for you keeping your gun rights?
Finally the gas piston AR "facts". How many of you have actually shot any AR without cleaning it until it will not work? Well I, just for grins, shot 500 rounds of German Mil-Spec 7.62 NATO through my DPMS 16" TAC (see below) without a hiccup. Upon taking it apart, it was no more dirt than my Benelli 12 bore after 5 rounds of clays (also 500 rounds).... so much for another myth. (you might want to check out how the Benelli's OS works). BTW anyone ever seen an M-1 that was used aboard ship with a rusted in place operating rod from salt air in the gas cylinder?
As for being a "Ruger shill" as of today I own one, the 45-70, BUT I'll be waiting for the Gun Tests review of this one because my only AR15 is a Sweet 16 which is not light.
So get over the vendetta against a dead guy (I stopped bitching about LBJ a long time ago and he almost got me killed), to quote the liar speaking at Notre Dame today:"lets look to the future."
Nuff said, you may continue the fight without me.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: MG-70</div><div class="ubbcode-body">A little late in the game. I think I'll stick with my Sig556 for a piston-driven .556. If and when I run into a good deal on an FNC, I'll buy that, but otherwise my Sig or my WASR will do just fine. If I'm in the mood for spending a little more time cleaning, then one of the ARs can follow me to the range. </div></div>
You actualy like your sig 556? I picked up two now and have sold each one. When the barrel gets warm they walk all over the place, give me an AK over that peice of shit.
The FN SCAR is the only piston driven 5.56 that shoots great and accurate.
But to say the SIG is better than the ruger is an uneducated guess being that you have no info to compare.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: MG-70</div><div class="ubbcode-body">A little late in the game. I think I'll stick with my Sig556 for a piston-driven .556. If and when I run into a good deal on an FNC, I'll buy that, but otherwise my Sig or my WASR will do just fine. If I'm in the mood for spending a little more time cleaning, then one of the ARs can follow me to the range. </div></div>
You actualy like your sig 556? I picked up two now and have sold each one. When the barrel gets warm they walk all over the place, give me an AK over that peice of shit.
The FN SCAR is the only piston driven 5.56 that shoots great and accurate.
But to say the SIG is better than the ruger is an uneducated guess being that you have no info to compare.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: queequeg</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">This only adds strength to the cause of defeating another ban attempt in the name of saving a product line heavily invested in.
Good for Ruger, good for all of us. </div></div>
I think so too! </div></div>
The more people selling might help keep the prices lower. Like I said the M77 rifles were made good(Love mine) Most of the other rugers I have owned were made badly.
I did forget to say the 45-70s are another ok made gun by ruger but I think the Marlin is better for the price. I think the Ruger AR looks alot like a M&P except piston upper.
I own an M&P and its one of the best ARs I have ever shot. I owned a couple Sig 556s and the gas needes turned up after about 600 rounds to deal with the dirty gun.
I shoot about 500 till my AR needs cleaned so I guess they don't shoot that much cleaner but enough to make people want them. I still have yet to see a piston driven upper shoot groups as nice as an AR after 10 rounds. I understand that Ruger's previous owner and founder may of been an enemy on gun rights but lets hope that this gun with an obvious backlash against the comments made by Bill Ruger will help put their reputation back in check and dispute any of the previous BS they pulled.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: queequeg</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">This only adds strength to the cause of defeating another ban attempt in the name of saving a product line heavily invested in.
Good for Ruger, good for all of us. </div></div>
I think so too! </div></div>
The more people selling might help keep the prices lower. Like I said the M77 rifles were made good(Love mine) Most of the other rugers I have owned were made badly.
I did forget to say the 45-70s are another ok made gun by ruger but I think the Marlin is better for the price. I think the Ruger AR looks alot like a M&P except piston upper.
I own an M&P and its one of the best ARs I have ever shot. I owned a couple Sig 556s and the gas needes turned up after about 600 rounds to deal with the dirty gun.
I shoot about 500 till my AR needs cleaned so I guess they don't shoot that much cleaner but enough to make people want them. I still have yet to see a piston driven upper shoot groups as nice as an AR after 10 rounds. I understand that Ruger's previous owner and founder may of been an enemy on gun rights but lets hope that this gun with an obvious backlash against the comments made by Bill Ruger will help put their reputation back in check and dispute any of the previous BS they pulled.
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Mr Humble,
Youve got to agree that Bill Ruger did make some bad decisions in the past.
What this comes down to is theres a HUDGE market out there for "assault" type weapons know because of the president that in office. They just want to get on the banwagon and make money. Since Bill Ruger said that we didnt need anything over 10 rounds that just show that the company know is moving in a different direction with the 20-30 round mag showed in the pic above. Will I buy one? NO, its too pricey for me even if its a gas piston model. I clean my guns and shoot probley only 20-30 times when I go to the range so its not needed. A RRA ar-15 fits the bill just fine and plus it a 1000.00 cheaper. Thats a alot of aftermarket parts!
Mr Humble,
Youve got to agree that Bill Ruger did make some bad decisions in the past.
What this comes down to is theres a HUDGE market out there for "assault" type weapons know because of the president that in office. They just want to get on the banwagon and make money. Since Bill Ruger said that we didnt need anything over 10 rounds that just show that the company know is moving in a different direction with the 20-30 round mag showed in the pic above. Will I buy one? NO, its too pricey for me even if its a gas piston model. I clean my guns and shoot probley only 20-30 times when I go to the range so its not needed. A RRA ar-15 fits the bill just fine and plus it a 1000.00 cheaper. Thats a alot of aftermarket parts!
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<span style="font-style: italic">FUCK RUGER</span>
<span style="text-decoration: underline">This was written by Neal Knox. It appeared in the 12/1/89 issue of The New Gun Week. </span>
<span style="font-style: italic">
Knox Replies To Comment From Ruger Counsel's
Gun Week, December 1, 1989 </span>
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">"Steve Sanetti says 'I know better' than to ascribe Bill Ruger's
magazine ban proposal to business considerations. Maybe so; I
don't think Bill is by any means 'anti-gun,' nor do I think he
really _wants_ a ban on either guns or magazines (after all, he
got his start as a machine gun designer). But I do think Bill
Ruger is pushing a plan that would protect his business while
affecting only his competitors, and I think he's damaging the
efforts of those of us attempting to stop all proposed bans.
Further, I don't think his actions on this issue, and other
issues in the past, allows him to be described as 'the strongest
supporter of our Constitutional right to keep and bear arms.'
<span style="font-weight: bold">"What I _know_ is that about 9 p.m. the night before Bill sent a
letter to certain members of Congress calling for a ban on
high-capacity magazines he called me, wanting me to push such a
ban.</span> His opening words, after citing the many federal, state and
local bills to ban detachable magazine semi-autos, were 'I want
to save our little gun' -- which he later defined as the Mini-14
and the Mini-30. I'm not ascribing Bill's motives as 'expedient
from a business standpoint;' <span style="font-weight: bold">Bill did.</span>
"While I agree that a ban on over-15 magazines would be
'indefinitely preferable' to a ban on the guns that use them,
that's not the question. Neither I, nor the other gun groups have
ever believed that we were faced with such an either/or choice.
Early last year the NRA legislative Policy committee discussed
various alternatives to the proposed 'assault weapons' ban, and
wisely decided that magazine restrictions wouldn't satisfy our
foes, but would make it more difficult to stop a gun ban.
"I was particularly shocked when I realized Bill was talking
about a ban on possession of over-15-round magazines, rather than
a ban on sales (which is bad enough). I told him that such a law
would make me a felon, for not only did I have standard over-15
magazines for my Glock pistol (a high-capacity which has sharply
cut into Ruger's police business), I have many high-cap mags for
guns I don't even own, and don't even know where they all are.
As I told Bill, after a lifetime of accumulating miscellaneous
gun parts and accessories, there's no way I could clean out all
my old parts drawers and boxes, then swear -- subject to a five
or ten-year Federal prison term -- that I absolutely didn't have
an M3 grease gun mag or 30-round M-2 magazine lying in some
forgotten drawer.
""Bill said (and all these direct quotes are approximate). 'No,
there'd be amnesty for people like you. We have to propose a ban
on possession before they could take us seriously.' He contended
that the public's problem was with 'firepower,' which could be
resolved by eliminating high capacity mags.
"I told him Metzenbaum and Co. would gladly use whatever he
offered, but they weren't about to willingly agree to eliminate
high-cap magazines as a substitute for banning guns; that their
intention isn't to eliminate 'firepower' but 'firearms.'
"Bill finally said, <span style="font-weight: bold">'Neal, you're being very negative about it.'
He got angry, then said 'Well somebody's got to do it; by God I
will.' And the next day he sent his letter to the Hill</span>; <span style="text-decoration: underline">the
evidence indicates a few weeks later he talked SAAMI into
supporting undefined 'regulation' of magazines over-15-rounds</span> --
a vote that might have gone a little differently if any produced
high-capacity magazines as standard for either rifles or pistols.
<span style="font-weight: bold">"I suspect that Ruger and SAAMI's actions are responsible,
directly or indirectly</span>, for the Bush administration's proposal to
ban high-cap mags, but that proposal has been ignored -- except
as evidence that 'the Bush administration and the American
firearms industry recognize there's a problem -- that Americans
shouldn't be allowed to have such guns.'
"Of course, that isn't what Bill Ruger and SAAMI are saying, but
that's the message they're sending. Perhaps it isn't business
expediency to propose banning only that which they don't make, in
an effort to protect what they do make; but it sure can't be
claimed to be in defense of the Second Amendment."</div></div>
<span style="text-decoration: underline">Ruger said to Tom Brokaw:</span>
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">"No honest man needs more than 10 rounds in a gun".
"I never meant for simple civilians to have my 20 or 30 round magazines or folding stock."
"i see nothing wrong with waiting periods".</div></div>
<span style="text-decoration: underline">This letter was taken from the American Handgunner magazine, dated Sept 1992 page 18 </span>
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">"<span style="font-style: italic">The best way to address the firepower concern is therefore not to try to outlaw or license many millions of older and perfectly legitimate firearms (which would be a licensing effort of staggering proportions) but to prohibit the possession of high capacity magazines.
"By a simple, complete and unequivocal ban on large capacity magazines, all the difficulty of defining 'assault rifle' and 'semi-automatic rifles' is eliminated. The large capacity magazine itself, separate or attached to the firearm, becomes the prohibited item.
"A single amendment to Federal firearms laws could effectively implement these objectives." </span>
<span style="font-weight: bold">William B. Ruger
Sturm, Ruger Firearms</span></div></div>
<span style="font-style: italic">FUCK RUGER</span>
<span style="text-decoration: underline">This was written by Neal Knox. It appeared in the 12/1/89 issue of The New Gun Week. </span>
<span style="font-style: italic">
Knox Replies To Comment From Ruger Counsel's
Gun Week, December 1, 1989 </span>
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">"Steve Sanetti says 'I know better' than to ascribe Bill Ruger's
magazine ban proposal to business considerations. Maybe so; I
don't think Bill is by any means 'anti-gun,' nor do I think he
really _wants_ a ban on either guns or magazines (after all, he
got his start as a machine gun designer). But I do think Bill
Ruger is pushing a plan that would protect his business while
affecting only his competitors, and I think he's damaging the
efforts of those of us attempting to stop all proposed bans.
Further, I don't think his actions on this issue, and other
issues in the past, allows him to be described as 'the strongest
supporter of our Constitutional right to keep and bear arms.'
<span style="font-weight: bold">"What I _know_ is that about 9 p.m. the night before Bill sent a
letter to certain members of Congress calling for a ban on
high-capacity magazines he called me, wanting me to push such a
ban.</span> His opening words, after citing the many federal, state and
local bills to ban detachable magazine semi-autos, were 'I want
to save our little gun' -- which he later defined as the Mini-14
and the Mini-30. I'm not ascribing Bill's motives as 'expedient
from a business standpoint;' <span style="font-weight: bold">Bill did.</span>
"While I agree that a ban on over-15 magazines would be
'indefinitely preferable' to a ban on the guns that use them,
that's not the question. Neither I, nor the other gun groups have
ever believed that we were faced with such an either/or choice.
Early last year the NRA legislative Policy committee discussed
various alternatives to the proposed 'assault weapons' ban, and
wisely decided that magazine restrictions wouldn't satisfy our
foes, but would make it more difficult to stop a gun ban.
"I was particularly shocked when I realized Bill was talking
about a ban on possession of over-15-round magazines, rather than
a ban on sales (which is bad enough). I told him that such a law
would make me a felon, for not only did I have standard over-15
magazines for my Glock pistol (a high-capacity which has sharply
cut into Ruger's police business), I have many high-cap mags for
guns I don't even own, and don't even know where they all are.
As I told Bill, after a lifetime of accumulating miscellaneous
gun parts and accessories, there's no way I could clean out all
my old parts drawers and boxes, then swear -- subject to a five
or ten-year Federal prison term -- that I absolutely didn't have
an M3 grease gun mag or 30-round M-2 magazine lying in some
forgotten drawer.
""Bill said (and all these direct quotes are approximate). 'No,
there'd be amnesty for people like you. We have to propose a ban
on possession before they could take us seriously.' He contended
that the public's problem was with 'firepower,' which could be
resolved by eliminating high capacity mags.
"I told him Metzenbaum and Co. would gladly use whatever he
offered, but they weren't about to willingly agree to eliminate
high-cap magazines as a substitute for banning guns; that their
intention isn't to eliminate 'firepower' but 'firearms.'
"Bill finally said, <span style="font-weight: bold">'Neal, you're being very negative about it.'
He got angry, then said 'Well somebody's got to do it; by God I
will.' And the next day he sent his letter to the Hill</span>; <span style="text-decoration: underline">the
evidence indicates a few weeks later he talked SAAMI into
supporting undefined 'regulation' of magazines over-15-rounds</span> --
a vote that might have gone a little differently if any produced
high-capacity magazines as standard for either rifles or pistols.
<span style="font-weight: bold">"I suspect that Ruger and SAAMI's actions are responsible,
directly or indirectly</span>, for the Bush administration's proposal to
ban high-cap mags, but that proposal has been ignored -- except
as evidence that 'the Bush administration and the American
firearms industry recognize there's a problem -- that Americans
shouldn't be allowed to have such guns.'
"Of course, that isn't what Bill Ruger and SAAMI are saying, but
that's the message they're sending. Perhaps it isn't business
expediency to propose banning only that which they don't make, in
an effort to protect what they do make; but it sure can't be
claimed to be in defense of the Second Amendment."</div></div>
<span style="text-decoration: underline">Ruger said to Tom Brokaw:</span>
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">"No honest man needs more than 10 rounds in a gun".
"I never meant for simple civilians to have my 20 or 30 round magazines or folding stock."
"i see nothing wrong with waiting periods".</div></div>
<span style="text-decoration: underline">This letter was taken from the American Handgunner magazine, dated Sept 1992 page 18 </span>
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">"<span style="font-style: italic">The best way to address the firepower concern is therefore not to try to outlaw or license many millions of older and perfectly legitimate firearms (which would be a licensing effort of staggering proportions) but to prohibit the possession of high capacity magazines.
"By a simple, complete and unequivocal ban on large capacity magazines, all the difficulty of defining 'assault rifle' and 'semi-automatic rifles' is eliminated. The large capacity magazine itself, separate or attached to the firearm, becomes the prohibited item.
"A single amendment to Federal firearms laws could effectively implement these objectives." </span>
<span style="font-weight: bold">William B. Ruger
Sturm, Ruger Firearms</span></div></div>
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Thank you Arevalosocom!!!
Why not speak the truth about a dead man and his company?
A lesson: Don't be an a-hole while alive.
He hated us all anyhow.
I'd piss on him and his mini.
Thank you Arevalosocom!!!
Why not speak the truth about a dead man and his company?
A lesson: Don't be an a-hole while alive.
He hated us all anyhow.
I'd piss on him and his mini.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Just Roy</div><div class="ubbcode-body">A couple of my favorite Bill Ruger quotes:
"No honest man needs more than ten rounds in any gun."
"I see nothing wrong with waiting periods."
Fuck Bill Ruger's rotting corpse and everything that bears his name.</div></div>
+1000000000000
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Just Roy</div><div class="ubbcode-body">A couple of my favorite Bill Ruger quotes:
"No honest man needs more than ten rounds in any gun."
"I see nothing wrong with waiting periods."
Fuck Bill Ruger's rotting corpse and everything that bears his name.</div></div>
+1000000000000
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"wiki" on "William Ruger":
<span style="color: #333399"><span style="font-size: 14pt">"Since the death of Bill Ruger and the 2006 retirement of his son, Bill Ruger, Jr., the company has offered and advertised its 20-round and (more recently, as of April 2009) its 30-round Mini-14 magazines for sale to the general public on its Web site. In light of the (then) upcoming US Presidential Election of 2008, Sturm, Ruger & Co. even offered "Inaugural Special" pricing for their 20-round Mini-14 magazines through January 31, 2009. With acts such as these, the boycott appears to have been dying down. Additionally, Ruger announced its entry into the AR-15 market on May 15th 2009 by announcing the SR-556. This is a gas-piston AR and comes with 3 30 round magazines."</span>
</span>
I guess the "Ruger, Inc." lawyers are really making a <span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="font-style: italic"><span style="text-decoration: underline">statement</span></span></span> by including <span style="font-weight: bold">THREE 30 round P-mags (OMG!) </span> with their new AR.
"wiki" on "William Ruger":
<span style="color: #333399"><span style="font-size: 14pt">"Since the death of Bill Ruger and the 2006 retirement of his son, Bill Ruger, Jr., the company has offered and advertised its 20-round and (more recently, as of April 2009) its 30-round Mini-14 magazines for sale to the general public on its Web site. In light of the (then) upcoming US Presidential Election of 2008, Sturm, Ruger & Co. even offered "Inaugural Special" pricing for their 20-round Mini-14 magazines through January 31, 2009. With acts such as these, the boycott appears to have been dying down. Additionally, Ruger announced its entry into the AR-15 market on May 15th 2009 by announcing the SR-556. This is a gas-piston AR and comes with 3 30 round magazines."</span>
</span>
I guess the "Ruger, Inc." lawyers are really making a <span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="font-style: italic"><span style="text-decoration: underline">statement</span></span></span> by including <span style="font-weight: bold">THREE 30 round P-mags (OMG!) </span> with their new AR.
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I wouldn't say the SCAR is the only piston operated 5.56 that shoots accurately.
If you want AK reliability, AR accuracy, and better than AR ergonomics, check out the Robinson Arms XCR.
Robinson Arms
By the way, it doesn't cost $3000.00
I wouldn't say the SCAR is the only piston operated 5.56 that shoots accurately.
If you want AK reliability, AR accuracy, and better than AR ergonomics, check out the Robinson Arms XCR.
Robinson Arms
By the way, it doesn't cost $3000.00
Re: New Ruger AR-15...
I dont personally care for Ruger firearms. But, Maybe they know that theres not going to be any gun bans anytime soon? Im mean that would be alot of work for them to come out with a new gun, esspecialy an AR-15 and then they get banned 6 months later.
just my 2 cents
I dont personally care for Ruger firearms. But, Maybe they know that theres not going to be any gun bans anytime soon? Im mean that would be alot of work for them to come out with a new gun, esspecialy an AR-15 and then they get banned 6 months later.
just my 2 cents
Re: New Ruger AR-15...
I'm with most here...
Ruger can eat shit. Mainly because they keep making the 10/22 with more plastic parts every year... which make it harder and harder to do a good trigger job in it. The new plastic trigger housing is JUNK.
Why build an AR now? Because its a MONEY MAKER. Period. The End.
I'm with most here...
Ruger can eat shit. Mainly because they keep making the 10/22 with more plastic parts every year... which make it harder and harder to do a good trigger job in it. The new plastic trigger housing is JUNK.
Why build an AR now? Because its a MONEY MAKER. Period. The End.
Re: New Ruger AR-15...
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: KHOOKS</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Check the review out at http://www.gunblast.com/Ruger-SR556.htm
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Good review! I can use the paper I used to print it out for toilet paper.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: KHOOKS</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Check the review out at http://www.gunblast.com/Ruger-SR556.htm
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Good review! I can use the paper I used to print it out for toilet paper.
Re: New Ruger AR-15...
If its got Ruger any where near it I will pass.
If its got Ruger any where near it I will pass.
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