Haven't seen this mentioned yet. Cool to see the lower mid tier market filling out a little more.
https://vortexoptics.com/strike-eagle-1-8x24-ffp-riflescope.html
https://vortexoptics.com/strike-eagle-1-8x24-ffp-riflescope.html
The turrets may be in MOA but the reticle is a BDC and it isn't meant to be dialed, so turrets are kinda irrelevant.Is there a reason most of these LPVO optics are only in MOA? If it isn't offered in Mrad it's a deal breaker for me.
You called out the SE as "chinesium", but then proceeded to recommend ANOTHER China-made scope...Just from another brand.Yawn. Pass.
What does this chinesium thing does than the primary arms 1-8 SL-X acss doesn't do ? It's heavier, more expensive, and the reticle isn't really exciting.
You called out the SE as "chinesium", but then proceeded to recommend ANOTHER China-made scope...Just from another brand.
Yeah, and technically it is, but if you look at the subtension detail you'll see it's mostly just a BDC that they happen to have given you the MOA specs on. They could've easily done the same reticle and given you the MIL subtensions and it wouldn't change anything about the BDC's function.Vortex states the reticle is in MOA as well (EBR-8 MOA).
My point is that being both chinesium, I fail to see what this one does better.You called out the SE as "chinesium", but then proceeded to recommend ANOTHER China-made scope...Just from another brand.
I recently purchased an Athlon 1-10 that is a mil turret and a mil christmas tree. I have been very happy with it. I can't stand trying to work around some BDC.The turrets may be in MOA but the reticle is a BDC and it isn't meant to be dialed, so turrets are kinda irrelevant.
So you're saying that there should only be 1 option in the $500 range for an FFP 1-8x24 LPVO, and nobody else should make one, because the PA one already exists? That's a fairly boring way of looking at things.My point is that being both chinesium, I fail to see what this one does better.
Is there a reason most of these LPVO optics are only in MOA? If it isn't offered in Mrad it's a deal breaker for me.
I'm asking what this things does better when it's heavier and more expensive ?So you're saying that there should only be 1 option in the $500 range for an FFP 1-8x24 LPVO, and nobody else should make one, because the PA one already exists? That's a fairly boring way of looking at things.
I don't know, but this thread isn't about the Primary Arms LPVO, it's about the new Strike Eagle FFP 1-8x24 LPVO...I'm asking what this things does better when it's heavier and more expensive ?
Disagree strongly. 3 gunners in general, even the ones that use and understand both MIL and MOA (myself included) generally don't give a shit about either for this application. If using a BDC, we want the 3 to be close to 300yds, and the 4 to be close to 400yds, and if we have a 350yd target we hold between. If we're using a MIL or MOA hash reticle we're still just using it as a BDC and not thinking in minutes or mils, just second hash for the first target, hold third hash high on the second target etc. Shoot them fast you win, shoot them slow and you lose, meanwhile no one cares about the unit of measurement on your turrets.Milliradian is far too big a concept for most young and greenish 3-gunners to fathom... most don't know what MOA is either, it just sounds more comforting because red dots come in MOA (so at least they've heard it before lol).
I think you mike'd the sarcasm in my post lol.Disagree strongly. 3 gunners in general, even the ones that use and understand both MIL and MOA (myself included) generally don't give a shit about either for this application. If using a BDC, we want the 3 to be close to 300yds, and the 4 to be close to 400yds, and if we have a 350yd target we hold between. If we're using a MIL or MOA hash reticle we're still just using it as a BDC and not thinking in minutes or mils, just second hash for the first target, hold third hash high on the second target etc. Shoot them fast you win, shoot them slow and you lose, meanwhile no one cares about the unit of measurement on your turrets.
I know and shoot 3 gun regularly with the guys that designed the so called MOA, but really just BDC, EBR-9 reticle for the G3 Razor and this is my understanding of their design philosophy. I can ask next time I see them just to be sure.