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I have been reloading pistol calibers for 5 years. Purchased 6.5 creedmoor rifle and would like to reload for precision long range. Looking for information on how to measure, bump, trim just in general differences between rifle and pistol reloading

Tim
 
Your best bet is to read a reloading manual for the basics. Insofar as load info specific to 6.5cm you can refer to this thread and post your questions here

 
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I have been reloading pistol calibers for 5 years. Purchased 6.5 creedmoor rifle and would like to reload for precision long range. Looking for information on how to measure, bump, trim just in general differences between rifle and pistol reloading

Tim
Youtube will have a bunch of basic reloading videos. Not a huge difference but you will need to set your dies to bump the shoulder back at least .002. Don't be shy on the lube, stuck cases aren't fun.
 
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Youtube will have a bunch of basic reloading videos. Not a huge difference but you will need to set your dies to bump the shoulder back at least .002. Don't be shy on the lube, stuck cases aren't fun.
OTOH, too much lube will dent the cases. Best practice is a very thin film and like others have said lots of good videos on YouTube. Good luck and welcome to the addiction
 
I'm in the same boat kind of, but one of the great books out there is Ryan Cleckner's. Not a real lot so far as reloading, but was a good primer for equipment, terminology, ect...............He has also done some great yt videos on long range shooting.
 
There are a few pieces of reloading gear I wouldn't want to go without:

- Motorized case prep center. I have the Frankford Arsenal, it's great, some people go big and get the Giraud.
- Spray case lube. I use Hornady One-Shot, none of that "lubing single cases by hand" garbage.
- Micrometer seating die. I like Forster, but there are other great options out there.
- Redding Competition Shellholders. Lots of people back out the FL sizing die to get their desired shoulder bump, but it's been shown to be less repeatable and really finicky, the shellholders are vastly more consistent and are much easier to use.
- Automated powder dispenser (hopefully you already have one). Tons of time saved.

Annealer can come later if you decide you really wanna do this thing, you'll get a decent amount of firings out of any quality brass without annealing esp if you aren't hot-rodding your loads. I have a chrono but it isn't necessary if you can validate dope at your expected range; back-calculating MV is simple with just about any ballistic solver. You also need a 6.5mm bullet comparator to determine seating depth, Hornady's works fine for me. It might not be 100% accurate, but I believe it's 100% repeatable and that's all you really need; that's why they call it a "comparator."

Lastly, it's crucial to determine your goal in advance. If you say you want the "smallest groups possible," you'll never be finished with load development, since you'll always be asking yourself if you pulled that shot or if the load is bad. You need to set an accuracy goal at a certain distance, and keep it reasonable. I'm guessing you're not an F-class shooter, so 3-600 yards is a solid distance to target group size. 600 will do a good job showing MV spread, but it'll also add a fair amount of wind into the equation which can make it hard to tell how good the groups are from the load alone. 100 yards is fine if that's all you've got, but be aware that if your MV spread is sizeable, you probably won't be able to tell on paper at 100.
 
You've gotten good advice so far. First off, I'm not an experienced long range reloader. I'm still on the early part of my rifle reloading journey...walking up the trail from the valley of ignorance. What I don't have that your other commenters have is a reloading shelf full of notebooks. That said, I have made enough mistakes, read enough books, and watched enough of YT to accumulate a pile of lessons on where to look for reliable guidance and advice.

Manuals are your starting point for the basics. For a manual tailored to precision rifle, Lyman publishes a Long Range Precision Rifle Reloading Handbook. It covered most of the calibers used "back then" when it was published in 2018. It's ok but not great. Two notable missing 6.5 Creedmoor loads in the Lyman book are the 140g Berger and the 140g ELD Match. You can find data for those in other references. The 1st edition of the Berger Bullets manual covers the 120-130-140g Berger bullets, for example. That said, manuals tend to lag the state-of-the-art by 2-3 years.

It goes without saying but don't copycat YouTube reloaders without doing your own research. Do some comparison shopping at least until you've found others who recommend similar practices. You'll find little (or huge) variations in processes between reloaders on YouTube. If you watch long enough, you might find that a reloader changes his practices after a year or two. Worst of all, you'll find YTers who have a burr under their saddles about anything and everything.* They make a habit of publishing videos "refuting" another YTer's video. All they've really done is capture their own ignorance.

For channels, here are a few that I have found useful. They don't all use the exact same process, but they don't preach questionable practices, either (some YouTube "reloading experts" say some really, really stupid things). Here's a list based on four criteria: updated content, long range focus, evidence for their recommendations (and show their mistakes on camera), and a willingness to change when they find something better (and to admit on video they've learned something):

Johnny's Reloading Bench
Ultimate Reloader
Elfster's Rifles and Reloading
Erik Cortina (mostly F-Class but he has good general reloading practices for long range precision)
Panhandle Precision (mentioned earlier, but hasn't published a lot lately)

Good luck with your journey.

*The YouTube channels listed aren't among the folks with a burr.
 
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Or..... you can send your brass to @Dave_the_ss and let him bump your brass with the shell holder set he has and clean it up, trim, chamfer,debur, aneal, and all that too.

So you get to just load and go.... it's a really nice way to go and you help out a vet while you are at it.... just putting it out there....
 
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I remember how nervous I was when I lit off my first rifle reload!

There’s definitely a bit more involved for rifle reloading than pistol but it’s not really difficult.

Study and learn the basics and master those before you go down the rabbit hole with the fancy stuff.

It pretty amazing the ammunition you can put together with basic equipment and solid technique.
 
Thank you for all the replies. I have watched all the recommended yt guys. Thinking MEC marksman or rock chucker for press hornady custom dies, found some local srp's so have laupa srp brass on way will try RL 16 and IMR 4350 powders. ELD 140 projectiles. Further help/ideas greatly appreciated

Tim
 
Thank you for all the replies. I have watched all the recommended yt guys. Thinking MEC marksman or rock chucker for press hornady custom dies, found some local srp's so have laupa srp brass on way will try RL 16 and IMR 4350 powders. ELD 140 projectiles. Further help/ideas greatly appreciated

Tim
You want to use magnum primers in small primer brass. Just saying.
 
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