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New Winchester Rimfire Round

SHWILL

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Sorry if this has already been posted. Just thought I would share the info:

http://www.huntingclub.com/blogs/article...ge#.UM6G3qUgosW


Winchester Will Unveil Game-Changing Rimfire Cartridge

By: Ron Spomer
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If you think the 300 Win. Mag. is a significant improvement over the .30-06, wait until you shoot the new ground-breaking rimfire cartridge from Winchester. I'm not allowed to disclose its name or caliber yet, but it's scheduled to storm the market in 2013, beginning as soon as early or mid-March. Its performance exceeds current cartridges in its class by a wider margin than the 300 Win. Mag. over the .30-06.

I don't say this based merely on rumor or manufacturer hype. I've shot the new round. It does everything Winchester says it will. The bullets fly from the muzzle 500 fps faster than any other rimfire cartridge I'm aware of. At 250 yards, they retain nearly double the energy of the next-best round in their class. During my testing off sand bags from a portable bench, five bullets clustered just over 1 inch at 100 yards in light but variable winds. A single four-shot group went into a .39-inch spread, and one 300-yard four-shot group fell inside of 2.5 inches. All this was accomplished with a prototype bolt-action rifle so unrefined that cartridges had to be hand fed and extracted from the chamber with a knife blade.

Ballistic coefficient and velocity of the bullets are so high that this new round should hold a Maximum Point Blank Range of 250 yards on an 8-inch target. This means you aim at the center of the 8-inch target and hit it at any and all distances out to 250 yards. Last but not least, the new rounds should cost within 10 percent of currently available rimfire rounds in their class, or about a third less than some centerfire rounds with similar ballistic performance.

Because dimensions of the round are significantly different from any others currently made, at least one gun maker is reportedly building newly designed bolt-action rifles to fire it. Two more are reportedly working on additional models. Whether those are bolt actions, break actions, levers, semiautos or something else remains to be revealed.

“New” cartridges are a tried and sometimes true method for ramping up sales in the shooting industry, but most of them provide only incremental improvements over existing rounds. This new cartridge from Winchester is more than that. Much more. It should be a game changer.
 
Re: New Winchester Rimfire Round

My WAG:

20cal, 32gr bullet bottleneck running about 2600-2700fps.

Basically a hotrodded 5mm Rem Rimfire Mag.
 
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Because dimensions of the round are significantly different from any others currently made, at least one gun maker is reportedly building newly designed bolt-action rifles to fire it. Two more are reportedly working on additional models.
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How retarded is this. Winchester isn't even going to chamber their OWN proprietary round? They've got other companies making models for their experimental junk?

Btw, my guess is something north of .25 diameter, based on the "redesign" BS, "game-changing ballistics" BS, and the ".300WM to .308Win" comparison. No way Winchester is stupid enough to try and repeat the 5mm RMR, and it wouldn't require new actions.
 
Re: New Winchester Rimfire Round

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Re: New Winchester Rimfire Round

Oh boy, just what we need
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I can kind of understand why they have not come up with a "better" 22 rf based on the existing platform. Existing chamber design and that there are so many ammo choices out there now probably are some of the factors. But, high accuracy is getting expensive per round in 22rf! I would think they would be able to come up with something new just based on all the technology that has come out in propellants alone.

Add to that all the cheap rf actions out there, the liability of making a 22rf "fireball" would make any companies legal dept cringe
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Re: New Winchester Rimfire Round

i would love to have a 5MM or .204 rimfire, or whatever it is that it is being mass produced (if that is what it is) in different offerings of manufacturers both in ammo and rifles.

there are 1 or two that build special setups for them, but the price is out of the range of most enthusiasts.

looking at some of the older data on the 5mm rimfire, it is quite a cartridge, and if true, will turn the .17 or .22 mag debate to rest IMO.

perhaps it's just something totally different, who knows except for the guy that shot it and winchester.

hopefully hornady will come out with it's own version of whatever it is.

from what i understand, it wasn't the cartridge design that failed back in the day, but i think it was (not sure) the design of rem mdl 591 and 592 that did something funky with the shell in the chamber which turned off consumers from the cartridge itself.

http://eagleviewarms.com/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6OUwFgGVnIw

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/5_mm_Remington_Rimfire_Magnum

http://www.varminter.com/2008/5mmrrm.html

http://5mmforums.com/

http://www.chuckhawks.com/5mm_rem_mag.htm

http://www.chuckhawks.com/magnum_rimfire_comparison.htm

http://5mmforums.com/forums/index.php?/topic/9-taurus-5mm/