Newbie with a not so new question sorry in advance

[jester1]

First must say top notch site!

Im looking for a rifle in .223. Since the ammo is "cheaper" and I only have access to a range of 200 yards max with the only intention of punching paper, I dont see .308 fitting the criteria.

I think I have I made my decission on a SPS Tactical but after looking for days on this site I cant for the life of me find any range reports on how well it shoots MOA wise.

Can some of you guys that actualy have one in .223 post up or direct me to a thread somewhere. It seems that the .308 version is great out of the box, but no real info on the .223.

Thanks!

 

[Force_Multiplier]

Re: Newbie with a not so new question sorry in advance

it'll shoot .5 to 1 MOA more than likely...

But I have a very serious question for you.
If you have 200yds available and want something "cheap", to punch paper. why not do a good 22lr "trainer" build and have something that will challenge you at the distance you have available. Tha 223 will get rather boring, rather quickly at 200yds. Where a 22lr is great fun between 100 and 200 yards and will teach you a LOT more abou marksmenship in case you ever get the chance to go further out.

just something to thing about

 

[redbullitt]

Re: Newbie with a not so new question sorry in advance

Agreed on the 22lr if you do not have one and that is all the range you will be shooting.

It would allow you actually practice drop and windage, while still letting you get HUGE amounts of trigger time for a very low price.

 

[Jhnmdahl]

Re: Newbie with a not so new question sorry in advance

If you do go the .22 route, the guns are cheap and the ammo is almost free, so it should be a very affordable way to get a lot of practice.

If you spend a few bucks, buy a mil-dot scope with indexed turrets, something like http://swfa.com/Millett-4-16x50-TRS-1-Tactical-30mm-Riflescope-P42548.aspx and your experience will transfer over to bigger calibers at long distances well.

Good luck,

John

 

[Dylan in AZ]

Re: Newbie with a not so new question sorry in advance

Where are you located? You might be around ranges that offer more distance and not even know it. I just learned about two new ones in my area that i've never even heard of before. Hell, the range i've been going to since i was just a little boy has almost twice as much distance as i have allways thought it has. I'm just saying there might be better options out there wherever you live.If not you might want to opt for some field equipment so you can get out in the field and shoot on your own scedule at your own rate and do what you want instead of conforming to the range's set of rules. If neither of these options is reasonable for your situation and location then i have to give a massive +1 to the 22LR "trainer" as it will teach you so much valuable info that the 223 won't even touch at such a short range. But i guess if your still set on that 223 it will get the job done. And it can double as a varmint gun if hunting is an option for your area.

Hope this helps,
Dylan

 

[Shortdraw]

Re: Newbie with a not so new question sorry in advance

I agree with all above. I have tons of fun shooting far with my 22's. You can get a very accurate 22 for the same price as a 223, and even the best match ammo is cheaper than good 223 ammo. One of mine outshoots most centerfires at 100 yards, and is reliable and predictable in low wind out to 200. Teaches you how to read the wind, and amazes people at the range when you're ringing steel at 200 yards.

 

[DamnYuppie]

Re: Newbie with a not so new question sorry in advance

+1 for the .22lr. I would definitely recommend a CZ 452 or 455, they are very accurate and an absolute blast to shot! Also checkout www.rimfirecentral.com as it is loaded with info pertaining to rim fires.

 

[Shortdraw]

Re: Newbie with a not so new question sorry in advance

If you have money to spend on a 22, think Anschutz, Cooper, CZ, Suhl, Kimber, etc... Any on that list are almost guarenteed to be top shelf shooters unless there is something wrong with it. Ammo varies greatly in accuracy. Top is Eley, Lapua, RWS, Wolf, and anything target or match will be more consistent than bulk bricks.

 

[jester1]

Re: Newbie with a not so new question sorry in advance

Thanks for the replies. I never thought about a doing a .22. I did have a 10/22 stainless bull barrel on the wishlist though.

Our ranges or atleast the range I shoot at wont alow .22s on the 200/250 yrd line, 100 max. I dont know why???

Terror. unfortunatly Im north of the boarder where guns are bad, the ranges are thinning out and the laws are extreamly rediculos.
I honestly think we only have less than ten years left before they outlaw everything. Thats what registering your firearms brings to the future.

 

[Dylan in AZ]

Re: Newbie with a not so new question sorry in advance

That's sad to hear buddy.