I am now 7 more weeks behind from getting stuff out of jail because people want to play games. I’m with Trump but this is all the more reason why the nfa needs to go away.
NFA shit needs to end...
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First amendment doesn't change when you cross state lines. The second shouldn't either.
Maybe if they win this deal in NY then someone can challenge with the same outcome in relation to the NFA?
Unconstitutional is the incorrect word politicians came up with to confound the average joe. Everything is in the constitution. Outside of stated boundaries granted by law it is ILLEGAL/VIOLATION OF/TREASON.
The fact that they tell everyone it’s not in the law is a flat out lie. Their is a finite list of things the govt is empowered to create laws. If it’s not listed, the power goes to the states/people.
Stop spreading the fucking lies they spew.
The fact that they tell everyone it’s not in the law is a flat out lie. Their is a finite list of things the govt is empowered to create laws. If it’s not listed, the power goes to the states/people.
Stop spreading the fucking lies they spew.
That’s 100% true. There is very little the gov was intended to do from the outset. Somehow, almost immediately, it started growing its powers. Imagine that!
Nay nay....vote more of them in....I want America to burn. Many of you view this as destruction, I view it as a cleansing.
Yeah, good luck with that, too many fucking peeps with their hands out thinking the gubmint should take care of them!!!!
Importing too many shithole people to go along with their voter fraud.Yeah, good luck with that, too many fucking peeps with their hands out thinking the gubmint should take care of them!!!!
In case any one forgot
Remember all the precincts where Obama got a 100% or more of votes?
Remember Acorn being involved in voter fraud?
Remember Obama giving Acorn a billion $$$$?
Also why amnesty is so important to them. Recall that prior to last amnesty (under Reagan), republicans won California 9 of previous 10 presidential elections. George HW Bush last R to do it. If new amnesty happens, look for Texas to go same way, and then look at the electoral map. We are fucked.
That's why I don't exactly enforce unconstitutional laws ?
Well, the government hasn't figured out a way to tax us on freedom of speech yet like they have with owning NFA toys.
Two years of Repubs with all the power of all the offices gave you the same shit 8 years of Obama and pelosi gave you, no difference between these two parties, support the tea party and buy a shitload more ammo, I really do believe we are in the midst of a coming apart
They are called the left wing an right wing because, they are the wings of the same buzzard.
I've said it before and I'll say it again. Democrats and Republicans are cut from the same cloth. They're just dyed different colors.
...we elect someone other than the two mainstream candidates spoon fed to us from the Commission on Presidential Debates (sponsored by the Dems and Reps). People are finally realizing that the country is just arguing over who's going to spend our grandkids' money.
We are coming apart, LGOWI , an over reach or a triggering event will trigger article 5, then the takers will start a war with the makers. Just watch and prepare... the process is underway already, never forget the Constitution and its professed enemies who are many.
when the money stops flowing back to the states after the fed gang takes their cut the govs will invoke Article 5 to defund and defang the fed gov and take power back to the states through a convention. which will kick off a war with states that are bankrupt. Or we will just move straight to war with each other while the coming apart is in progress. Either way we are going to come apart.
do a little research as there is a lot of smoke being thrown in the away of this movement, its a progresssion from the deep states attack on teh tea party, its the biggest threat to the globalists, bigger than trump is.
https://thehill.com/opinion/campaig...tes-is-the-last-thing-america-needs-right-now
do a little research as there is a lot of smoke being thrown in the away of this movement, its a progresssion from the deep states attack on teh tea party, its the biggest threat to the globalists, bigger than trump is.
https://thehill.com/opinion/campaig...tes-is-the-last-thing-america-needs-right-now
Good times to be hicks from the sticks. City slickers are going to get caught up in their own making an wallow in their own shit, literally.
Got it, AJ. Thanks.
If GM was too big to fail it would be interesting to see the fed government allow a state to fail. I'm not saying it shouldn't happen (I think if something fails it's not the role of gov to save it and f up the natural order of things---much like it's not the role of gov to nfa our toys!), but there would be a big split on the issue.
It kills me, looking at the cartoon a few posts up, how many people I hear say that they voted for the "lesser of two evils." There were more than two choices, and I think it's the belief that there are only two that maintains our illusory two-party shit show. Our chains are self-imposed.
Sincerely,
Hick from the Sticks
If GM was too big to fail it would be interesting to see the fed government allow a state to fail. I'm not saying it shouldn't happen (I think if something fails it's not the role of gov to save it and f up the natural order of things---much like it's not the role of gov to nfa our toys!), but there would be a big split on the issue.
It kills me, looking at the cartoon a few posts up, how many people I hear say that they voted for the "lesser of two evils." There were more than two choices, and I think it's the belief that there are only two that maintains our illusory two-party shit show. Our chains are self-imposed.
Sincerely,
Hick from the Sticks
Here are some good articles on an NFA challenge out of Kansas. A lot of reading but worth it. I hope he wins.
https://www.kansas.com/news/politics-government/article126014949.html
https://gunowners.org/gun-owners-of...o-national-firearms-act-in-u-s-supreme-court/
https://www.guns.com/news/2019/01/1...enges-legitimacy-of-the-national-firearms-act
https://www.kansas.com/news/politics-government/article126014949.html
https://gunowners.org/gun-owners-of...o-national-firearms-act-in-u-s-supreme-court/
https://www.guns.com/news/2019/01/1...enges-legitimacy-of-the-national-firearms-act
now someone correct me if im wrong......but states are under no obligation to enforce federal law......as weve seen with marijuana and immigration laws being flagrantly disregarded.
shouldnt it stand to reason that States have no obligation to enforce NFA laws.......and in states that have no gun laws, NFA items should be as freely marketed as pot is in Colorado and Massachusetts......or illegals are in California.
shouldnt it stand to reason that States have no obligation to enforce NFA laws.......and in states that have no gun laws, NFA items should be as freely marketed as pot is in Colorado and Massachusetts......or illegals are in California.
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I’ve always wondered about this myself. Someone told me Kansas was the state to live in...for that reason. ??
True, but the fed gov can federalize NG troops to enforce constitutional Fed Law. With the NFA the problem will be that its not Constitutional and convincing anyone to show up will be problematic, only strident Cops and Fed workers would show up so they dont damage their meal ticket.
Is Kettler's case (from Longshot's post up there a few ^^^) intentional? I mean did he or some group who cares about limiting federal intervention intentionally bring this to center stage so that the issue can be worked out once and for all?
Or was he just minding his own business and .gov used some of its money-that-it-doesn't-have to spend time spying on him via facebook? I'd love to see an estimate of how much tax $$$ it takes to persecute (I don't think prosecute is the correct word here since it implies a legitimate crime) someone like Kettler.
Or was he just minding his own business and .gov used some of its money-that-it-doesn't-have to spend time spying on him via facebook? I'd love to see an estimate of how much tax $$$ it takes to persecute (I don't think prosecute is the correct word here since it implies a legitimate crime) someone like Kettler.
Be VERY careful of what you're wishing for. Trust me when I tell you that you DON'T want a "more than 2 party" system. Here's a simple version and explanation of 'why'.
Lets call the DEMONcrat party "A", the Republicans party "B" and say the Tea Party is "C". Let's also say for the sake of this discussion, that there are only 3 parties on the ballot.
Only 40 percent of the population vote for A, because the majority of the population have the brains and intelligence to know that such disease is evil, and against all the goodness and happiness of mankind.
But, the remaining 60 percent, (those smart folks) are undecided, and sorta 'hifty/hifty' about which party is best. So half of them vote for B and the other half vote for C.
(see what I did there?)
DEMONcrats 40%
Republicans 30%
Tea Party 30%
DEMONcrats win, we ALL LOSE.
So now, at the end of the polls, the ballots are counted. It is CLEAR that the majority of people DON'T WANT the DEMONcrats to win, but due to their indecision AND the fact that there are 'choices'.... the majority LOSE because their ballots were wasted in 'minority' parties.
Be smarter than that. Please.
Unfortunately, Sean, in your example A=B which almost =C. I wish it weren't that way, but that's the way I see it.
And I'll try to be smarter, really I will!
As far as the topic of NFA, I don't know that any of the above would really have repealing it at the top of their agenda. If a third party were to make progress it'll be interesting to see how far they make it before the powers-that-be turn it into one of our existing spend-our-grandkids-money parties.
And I'll try to be smarter, really I will!
As far as the topic of NFA, I don't know that any of the above would really have repealing it at the top of their agenda. If a third party were to make progress it'll be interesting to see how far they make it before the powers-that-be turn it into one of our existing spend-our-grandkids-money parties.
Agreed. There is a set of really good videos that explains the problem and possible solutions without getting all political. No political parties mentioned (unless you count queen lion, tortoise, gorilla, monkey, or tiger to be political parties).
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL7679C7ACE93A5638
Recommend all to watch.
So let's say that the A=B and animal arguments posted above are good arguments. I'm not saying they are, but it doesn't matter for the purpose of this discussion. We'll just say they're spot on, and we'll come to the same conclusion as if they weren't.
If a two-party system is inevitable with ~50% approval on each side, why don't we look for a better solution? One solution would be to reduce the role of gov to where it does the bare necessities (clean air and water, nat'l security, etc). I bet the average approval would be more than 50%, and we don't have to worry about NFA. If anything, NFA repeal would increase our collective security, not that 99% of the general population would even think about it.
That would mean getting rid of A and B and lions and monkeys or whatever the hell we're calling it.
It will either take a third party or a more catastrophic event to see that through. My hope is for a stable transition, but I have a good sense of humor.
If a two-party system is inevitable with ~50% approval on each side, why don't we look for a better solution? One solution would be to reduce the role of gov to where it does the bare necessities (clean air and water, nat'l security, etc). I bet the average approval would be more than 50%, and we don't have to worry about NFA. If anything, NFA repeal would increase our collective security, not that 99% of the general population would even think about it.
That would mean getting rid of A and B and lions and monkeys or whatever the hell we're calling it.
It will either take a third party or a more catastrophic event to see that through. My hope is for a stable transition, but I have a good sense of humor.
Understood, deersniper. Thanks for pointing that out. I'll concede that point so that we can continue without distraction.
The issue of "we're screwed if we need to buy water from China" can wait for another time.
I agree, if we fall back to fundamentals it should be to our Constitution.
The issue of "we're screwed if we need to buy water from China" can wait for another time.
I agree, if we fall back to fundamentals it should be to our Constitution.
