I'm looking for my first AR type rifle and I like the Noveske Afghan uppers. The upper I want lists for $1445 and complete rifle list for $2555. I can get a LMT lower for around $550. Am I missing something? Thats a $600 dollar difference on the lower. Is there that much of a difference in there lowers accuracy wise?
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Re: Noveske Afghan
Nope. The only way a lower affects accuracy is through the trigger, and those are changeable.
Nope. The only way a lower affects accuracy is through the trigger, and those are changeable.
Re: Noveske Afghan
So wheres the $600 advantage?
So wheres the $600 advantage?
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the advantage is that you put $600 in john Noveske's pocket by buying from him
Just kidding, you'd have to look at the parts they use and compare, but doubtful you will find a $600 difference.
the advantage is that you put $600 in john Noveske's pocket by buying from him
Just kidding, you'd have to look at the parts they use and compare, but doubtful you will find a $600 difference.
Re: Noveske Afghan
I would just buy the upper. I assume for $550 you're talking about the lower with SOPMOD stock and 2 stage trigger?
If it were me and assuming you want to buy the lower complete, I would just get the standard trigger lower ($450), then spend $200 on a SSA-E. You'll end up with a better trigger for a total between $2100-2200 after shipping and FFL.
BTW, Ranier has the Afghan 14.5 upper for $1341.45
I would just buy the upper. I assume for $550 you're talking about the lower with SOPMOD stock and 2 stage trigger?
If it were me and assuming you want to buy the lower complete, I would just get the standard trigger lower ($450), then spend $200 on a SSA-E. You'll end up with a better trigger for a total between $2100-2200 after shipping and FFL.
BTW, Ranier has the Afghan 14.5 upper for $1341.45
Re: Noveske Afghan
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: MM1776</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I would just buy the upper. I assume for $550 you're talking about the lower with SOPMOD stock and 2 stage trigger?
If it were me and assuming you want to buy the lower complete, I would just get the standard trigger lower ($450), then spend $200 on a SSA-E. You'll end up with a better trigger for a total between $2100-2200 after shipping and FFL.
BTW, Ranier has the Afghan 14.5 upper for $1341.45 </div></div>
Yes. I was wanting the Sopmod stock. I didn't think about getting the standard trigger then upgrading to the SSA-E. Is that one a two stage as well?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: MM1776</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I would just buy the upper. I assume for $550 you're talking about the lower with SOPMOD stock and 2 stage trigger?
If it were me and assuming you want to buy the lower complete, I would just get the standard trigger lower ($450), then spend $200 on a SSA-E. You'll end up with a better trigger for a total between $2100-2200 after shipping and FFL.
BTW, Ranier has the Afghan 14.5 upper for $1341.45 </div></div>
Yes. I was wanting the Sopmod stock. I didn't think about getting the standard trigger then upgrading to the SSA-E. Is that one a two stage as well?
Re: Noveske Afghan
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: TravisB</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: MM1776</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I would just buy the upper. I assume for $550 you're talking about the lower with SOPMOD stock and 2 stage trigger?
If it were me and assuming you want to buy the lower complete, I would just get the standard trigger lower ($450), then spend $200 on a SSA-E. You'll end up with a better trigger for a total between $2100-2200 after shipping and FFL.
BTW, Ranier has the Afghan 14.5 upper for $1341.45 </div></div>
Yes. I was wanting the Sopmod stock. I didn't think about getting the standard trigger then upgrading to the SSA-E. Is that one a two stage as well?</div></div>
yes, SSA-E is 2 stage
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: TravisB</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: MM1776</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I would just buy the upper. I assume for $550 you're talking about the lower with SOPMOD stock and 2 stage trigger?
If it were me and assuming you want to buy the lower complete, I would just get the standard trigger lower ($450), then spend $200 on a SSA-E. You'll end up with a better trigger for a total between $2100-2200 after shipping and FFL.
BTW, Ranier has the Afghan 14.5 upper for $1341.45 </div></div>
Yes. I was wanting the Sopmod stock. I didn't think about getting the standard trigger then upgrading to the SSA-E. Is that one a two stage as well?</div></div>
yes, SSA-E is 2 stage
Re: Noveske Afghan
Another thing...
I'm not sure if my facts here are 100% but I think they are pretty close. When you buy a complete rifle you pay something like 10% in federal excise tax, whereas when you buy seperately you do not. That could be part of the price difference you are seeing.
Another thing...
I'm not sure if my facts here are 100% but I think they are pretty close. When you buy a complete rifle you pay something like 10% in federal excise tax, whereas when you buy seperately you do not. That could be part of the price difference you are seeing.
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The standard trigger is single stage. The SSA-E is two stage. Look in group buys, Cliff Decker had a Noveske group buy going and it saved money. I think it is over, but he has them occasionally. The Afghan is a very nice handling rifle.
The standard trigger is single stage. The SSA-E is two stage. Look in group buys, Cliff Decker had a Noveske group buy going and it saved money. I think it is over, but he has them occasionally. The Afghan is a very nice handling rifle.
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Thanks for the replies. Gives me some more options to look/think about. Just doing my homework now trying to figure out what I want.
Thanks for the replies. Gives me some more options to look/think about. Just doing my homework now trying to figure out what I want.
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I built my lower myself then ordered an Afghan Upper.
It was nice to put half the gun together myself, I learned quite a bit about the functionality.
I installed an SSA-E, since then I've purchased 2 more.
Really fantastic trigger.
I built my lower myself then ordered an Afghan Upper.
It was nice to put half the gun together myself, I learned quite a bit about the functionality.
I installed an SSA-E, since then I've purchased 2 more.
Really fantastic trigger.
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I've thought about doing my own. Just not sure how much money it would save.
I've thought about doing my own. Just not sure how much money it would save.
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