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NY STATE: State police cracking down on "ghost guns" visiting addresses of residents who had purchased gun parts on Ebay.

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  • NEW YORK STATE

    With the passing of the so-called SAFE Act in 2013 which required background checks on loaded ammunition purchases and bans on most popular and commonly owned models of semiautomatic rifles, New York State had joined New Jersey and California as the very few states that still has ludicrous anti-gun policies which do virtually nothing to deter actual criminals and those hell bent on causing chaos.

    However, even before the passing of the SAFE Act, NY State has been one of the few states which place restrictions on the purchase and ownership of handguns. Even though NY is a "shall issue" state in terms of CCW permits, residents are not allowed to purchase and keep in one's residence a handgun until they had obtained a special handgun premises license from their county's licensing department. Recently, in an effort to crack down on PMFs (privately manufactured firearms), or "ghost guns", New York state police had been visiting people at their doors who had made purchases for gun parts from the Ebay website. As NY State requires a permit for the purchases of handguns and had pretty much banned the sale of new AR and AK pattern semiauto rifles, NY State police are most likely looking up the information of people who had been purchasing handgun parts who do not possess a handgun license, or anyone ordering semiauto rifle parts, and then questioning them about the gun parts that they ordered.

    According to Ammoland News, the visits were conducted in "shows of force" with 9-12 officers. Two or three officers actually interact with the resident while the rest stay far behind. They have no warrants, except printouts of the peoples' transactions on Ebay and they try to coerce people to allowing them to conduct a search or to inspect their firearms by telling them "we know what you have". So far, none of those visited had consented or relented to any searches and the "ghost gun team" officers left afterwards, but the folks who had been subject to this visitation provided crucial information to Ammoland which would otherwise never have been covered by mainstream media or police press releases.

    When reporters from Ammoland asked Ebay about the transaction histories of gun parts customers being given to police, they denied any such happenings, but from the information gleaned so far on those insidious visits, it is undeniable that Ebay has been allowing NYS LE agencies full access into their databases.

    Much more info below, along with the NYPD/NYSP's hilariously embarrassing "Ghost Gun Identification Manual" issued to it's firearms officers and it's full contents leaked to Ammoland during the course of this story's coverage:


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    When the officers show up at New York residents’ doors, they show up in force with between nine and twelve officers. Only two to three officers will speak to the person while the others stand far back in the yard looking bored. The police will ask about the parts and ask to see any firearms that the resident owns. The New York Police are knocking on doors requesting to see the individual’s firearms.

    AmmoLand News spoke to several of the residents that the State Police visited. None of the individuals allowed the police to inspect their firearms. The officers would state, “We know what you have.” When the residents still refused to hand over any information, the State Police let them know they could turn in anything violating New York law to the State Police. None of the residents we spoke to were threatened with legal action, and the interactions were between five and fifteen minutes.
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    See all you guys worried about NFA items and 4473s and all that stuff because you are on "a list"

    They know already.

    "Are you Mister XXXXX who purchased Item Z on such and such date?"
    "Are those Level 4 plates?"

    They're coming, its just a matter of when.
     
    Well with rounding up muzzle breaks and A2 grips from thousands of residents now it makes sense that they do t have time to look into international child trafficking.
    The back the blue crowd must be so proud
     
    Id side with Yankee here - Ive had to do it twice that stand out to me.

    First time argued all that legal trespassing property line stuff - problem to remember is do not open the door when you're talking, that is their cue.

    Don't flash a weapon that is NOT going to increase your chances of getting them to leave!!!
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    Another time this completely unmarked SUV was parked right in the center of my driveway when I walked outside this is abnormal and was not having a great day.

    Said fuck that shit I don't play around - so Im trying to break into this dudes vehicle everything is locked and Im shaking the SUV trying to break to handles lol and I see the computer in the middle and a shotgun in the back so I take a step back and think.....cop walks around the corner im not touching the SUV but its still shaking like hell - O HEYYYY!

     
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    Id side with Yankee here - Ive had to do it twice that stand out to me.

    First time argued all that legal trespassing property line stuff - problem to remember is do not open the door when you're talking, that is their cue.

    Don't flash a weapon that is NOT going to increase your chances of getting them to leave!!!
    Modern ring cameras are really a great thing.
    Never answer the door.