It has been a long time since I have tried to shoot any groups. But here is a 100yrd round robin test I tried today with a new build I just got. 7-08, Varget powder, Shooting 162gr A-MAX. My book was showing 39.9gr as max load, but I ended going up to 41.0gr with no sign of pressure. I'm a little skeptical of my results, because I think I may have been dealing with a little parallax.