Officer Killed on Father's Day by Chief's Son

[Insayn]

<span style="font-weight: bold">I didn't see this posted yet....it gets really intersting and controversial 3 posts down.</span>

Lancaster, TX Officer Killed on Father's Day by Dallas Police Chief's Son
by MONIKA DIAZ, REBECCA LOPEZ and JASON WHITELY

WFAA

Posted on June 20, 2010 at 6:39 PM

Updated Monday, Jun 21 at 6:08 PM

LANCASTER — A Lancaster police officer and the son of Dallas police Chief David Brown are among the three people who were killed in gunfire Sunday evening at an apartment complex in the 900 block of River Bend Drive.

Many of the facts surrounding the complicated crime scene remained unclear late Sunday night.

Lancaster Police Chief Keith Humphrey said the Lancaster officer — a five-year veteran of the force and a father of two children — was answering a "shooting in progress" call around 6 p.m. when there was an exchange of gunfire.

The officer was identified by the Dallas County Medical Examiner's office as 37-year-old Craig Shaw, 37, a father of two who worked at the Lancaster Police Department for five years.

Dallas police First Assistant Chief Charles Cato confirmed the death of Chief Brown's son, David O'Neal Brown Jr., in a statement made at police headquarters late Sunday night.

"Chief Brown is with his family this evening," Cato said, adding that the chief mourns the loss of the Lancaster officer in addition to his own son.

"Chief Brown asks that the Dallas community keep his family in their prayers this evening — and in the days to come — as his family tries to comprehend the circumstances surrounding this tragic incident," Cato said.

The third person killed was identified as Jeremy McMillian, 22, of Lancaster. Carolyn Henderson, whose husband is pastor at Christian Holy Temple Church of God in Christ in Oak Cliff, said McMillian had been a member of their congregation.

"He's my kind of godson," Henderson said. "He grew up with my children."

There appeared to be three crime scenes in different areas of the apartment complex. At one location, a vehicle was covered in blue tarp and an unmarked police car could be seen a short distance away.

A second scene, near a complex pool, appeared focused on a red sport utility vehicle.

The third scene, at the rear of the complex, was centered on a white four-door vehicle that appeared to have crashed next to a Dumpster.

"Officers responded to the apartment complex and started looking for the shooter," said Kim Leach, a Dallas County Sheriff's Department spokeswoman. "At the time, the suspect turned and shot one of the officers, killing him. Another officer returned fire at the suspect and shot and killed him."

It was not made clear whether Brown or McMillian was the suspect.

Several residents at the River Bend apartments said they witnessed the violence and its immediate aftermath, but officials were mum about the precise sequence of events.

"I just heard lots of quick shots — you know, like, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, you know — that's all I heard," said Pat Miles. "I jumped down on the floor."

The 37-year-old Lancaster officer was taken to a hospital for treatment and later died. "The investigation is ongoing," Chief Humphrey said.

Dozens of officers from Lancaster, Red Oak and DeSoto were at the scene. Investigators from the Dallas County Sheriff's department were collecting evidence and taking notes.

"I'll keep praying for both of them — the suspect's family and the officer's family," Miles said.

Chief Humphrey said this is a very sad moment for the Lancaster Police Department.

"We lost an officer tonight in the line of duty," he said. "We're heartbroken, and his family is devastated."

David Brown Sr. has been Chief of Police in Dallas for less than two months. His wife, Cedonia, is a sergeant on the Dallas force.

In 2003, Brown Jr. was arrested on suspicion of selling marijuana in Waxahachie. He pleaded no contest and was convicted of a misdemeanor.

The chief said in an interview earlier this year that he was proud of the way his son, also a father, grew after the incident.

"I'm much more impressed when you make mistakes, how you respond to it," Brown said in May. "It speaks to the kind of man he is. He continued his education, he's gainfully employed in spite of some of the mistakes that he's made."

For Brown, the death of his only son on Father's Day is the latest in a line of personal tragedies.

In 1988, his police academy classmate and former partner Walter L. Williams was fatally shot in the line of duty. Three years later, his younger brother, Kelvin Brown, was killed in the Phoenix area by drug dealers.

Brown has said increased crime in his native Oak Cliff neighborhood played a key role in leading him to become a Dallas police officer in 1983.

As did many others, Carolyn Henderson had many unanswered questions after the death of McMillian, who she called "a very good guy."

"Who shot him, and why did he get shot? And what was the reason?" she asked. "I mean, if it was an accident, then still, we still need to know."

 

[Insayn]

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Dallas police chief's son killed Lancaster officer

12:55 PM CDT on Monday, June 21, 2010

By TANYA EISERER and SCOTT GOLDSTEIN / The Dallas Morning News
[email protected]; [email protected]

LANCASTER – The son of Dallas Police Chief David Brown killed a Lancaster police officer and another man during a Sunday melee that left three people dead, according to a law enforcement official.


David Brown Jr., 27, was himself shot and killed by officers, according to the official.

A law enforcement source who is familiar with the case and who asked that he not be identified said Brown had been behaving erratically at the apartment complex where the shootings occurred, in the 900 block of River Bend Drive near West Pleasant Run Road in southern Dallas County.

Wearing boxers, sunglasses and no shoes, Brown apparently killed a man who had just pulled into the complex in his car with his wife and children.

A short time later, he shot and killed Craig Shaw, a five-year veteran of the Lancaster police force who was the first officer called to the scene.

"This community has lost a good officer, a very good officer. We are heartbroken," Lancaster Police Chief Keith Humphrey said.

Shaw, 37, a father of two, was the first Lancaster officer fatally shot in the line of duty.

The other man who was killed was 23-year-old Jeremy Jontae McMillan, according to the Dallas County medical examiner's office.

The law enforcement official who has knowledge of the case said that about 5:40 p.m., a car driven by McMillian pulled into a parking lot at the complex.


McMillian, a family man with two jobs and no criminal history, was accompanied by his wife, an infant and another small child. They were headed to his sister’s house for Father’s Day dinner.

It is unclear whether McMillian knew Brown.

A man later identified as Brown approached the driver’s side and fired a couple of rounds, striking McMillian in the neck and head. The gunman fired several times more at the driver’s side of the car, narrowly missing McMillian’s wife and children.

Brown stalked back and forth to his apartment at least two times, getting in and out of cars, before retrieving a rifle out of the trunk of a Dodge Stratus then getting into the Stratus.
[Craig Shaw]
Craig Shaw

As sirens began to sound with the approach of police, and as bystanders were yelling and screaming, he backed the car out and began to leave the apartment complex.

Shaw, the first officer there, tried to stop Stratus after witnesses told him the shooter was driving away, the law enforcement source said.

Brown then stopped, got out of his car, and fired at the officer’s car.

Shaw returned fire, firing many rounds.

It is not clear if Brown was hit at that point, the law enforcement source said. Brown then got back in the car and began firing again from inside the vehicle.

Shaw was hit in the head.

Other officers, who by then had arrived on the scene, returned fire, striking the Brown repeatedly. He died at the scene.

"Officers responded to the apartment complex and started looking for the shooter," Kim Leach, a Dallas County sheriff's department spokeswoman, said earlier. "At the time, the suspect turned and shot one of the officers, killing him. Another officer returned fire at the suspect and shot and killed him."

Earlier in the day, there had been a call regarding Brown causing a disturbance at the swimming pool at the complex.

Humphrey said Shaw was one of the top-rated officers in his department, a "well-liked, very caring, very giving, selfless, hard worker … [who] lost his life defending the citizens of Lancaster."

Witnesses described a chaotic and confusing scene.

"I just heard lots of quick shots – you know, like, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, you know – that's all I heard," said River Bend apartments resident Pat Miles. "I jumped down on the floor."

Throughout the evening, dozens of area residents remained gathered beyond crime scene tape. Officers were seen embracing one another at the scene.

There appeared to be three crime scenes in different areas of the apartment complex. At one scene, a vehicle was covered in blue tarp and an unmarked police car could be seen a short distance away.

A second scene, near the swimming pool, appeared focused on a red sport utility vehicle. The third scene, at the rear of the complex, was centered on a white four-door vehicle that appeared to have crashed next to a Dumpster.

Officers from several area police departments were assisting in the investigation.

Chief Brown could not be reached. First Assistant Chief Charlie Cato, Brown's second in command, confirmed the death in a prepared statement, which he read late Sunday night at Dallas police headquarters.

The chief said in an interview earlier this year that he was proud of the way his son, also a father, grew after a 2003 incident where he was arrested on suspicion of selling marijuana.

"I'm much more impressed when you make mistakes, how you respond to it," Brown said in May.

At the time, he said his son was gainfully employed.
900 block River Bend Drive

For Brown, the death of his only son on Father's Day is the latest in a line of personal tragedies.

In 1988, his police academy classmate and former partner Walter Williams was fatally shot in the line of duty. Three years later, his younger brother, Kelvin Brown, was killed in the Phoenix area by drug dealers.

Brown, who also has two daughters, has said increased crime in his native Oak Cliff neighborhood played a key role in leading him to become a Dallas police officer in 1983.

"We don't know all of the facts of the incident at this time," Cato said in his statement. "Chief Brown asks that the Dallas community keep his family in their prayers this evening and in the days to come as his family tries to comprehend the circumstances surrounding this tragic incident."

 

[Insayn]

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<span style="font-weight: bold">Here is where things really begin to get touchy, a Deputy Chief ordered motorjocks to perform a police escort for the individual responsible for killing an Officer</span>


Decision to use on-duty officers for funeral procession of David Brown Jr. spurs outrage
6:09 PM Fri, Jun 25, 2010 | Permalink | Yahoo! Buzz
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The son of Dallas Police Chief David Brown was laid to rest in a private ceremony Friday.

David Brown Jr., who killed a Lancaster police officer and an innocent bystander on June 20th, was buried in Lincoln Memorial Cemetery in Dallas.

Deputy Chief Julian Bernal, who oversees the traffic unit, said that as the funeral procession was moving through Dallas, the private motorcycle escort was having trouble keeping up with the procession. He said other motorists were zipping past the slow-moving procession and getting into the procession to try to exit Central Expressway.

Bernal said he then ordered on-duty assistance to help escort the funeral procession. "It was dangerous and it was a matter of public safety," Bernal said. He said several units, mostly officers on motorcycles, met up with the procession on the Central Expressway at Mockingbird Lane and traveled with the procession all the way to the cemetery.

Bernal's decision set off a firestorm within the Dallas Police Department. In a statement on the Dallas Police Association's web site, the group condemned the decision.

"The Dallas Police Association is appalled that the Dallas Police Dept would provide an honor that is reserved for officers killed in the line of duty for a private citizen that killed another officer," the statement said. "Certainly the death of a family member is tragic, but to elevate the funeral to that level reserved for slain officers is repulsive and an embarrassment to DPD. Those responsible should resign immediately!"

Friday evening, City Manager Mary Suhm issued a statement saying that the decision to ask for on-duty assistance was made without her knowledge or approval "and contrary to her specific instructions."

"This action was also conducted without Chief David Brown's knowledge," Suhm stated. "This was not a planned event nor a full honor escort. The action will be fully investigated and may lead to disciplinary action."

Bernal , who made his comments prior to Suhm's statement, said he knew that his decision would be controversial.

"I want to take full responsibility. I made the decision to do it and this was absolutely not planned," Bernal said. "I did it out of respect for my chief and for a family who had lost somebody."

 

[Insayn]

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A cop-killer who is the son of the Dallas police chief continued to stir deep emotions Friday as he headed to his grave.

An apparent last-minute decision by a deputy police chief to provide assistance during part of David Brown Jr.'s funeral procession angered some police associations. The city manager quickly issued a written statement distancing herself and Chief David Brown from the decision.

"This was not a planned event nor a full honor escort," according to the statement issued late Friday afternoon evening by Dallas City Manager Mary Suhm. "The action will be fully investigated and may lead to disciplinary action."

Officers said the assistance included 10 to 12 motorcycles and at least one squad car.

David Brown Jr., who killed Lancaster police Officer Craig Shaw and an innocent bystander June 20 before being shot by other officers, was buried in Lincoln Memorial Cemetery in Dallas.

Deputy Chief Julian Bernal, who oversees the traffic unit, said that as the funeral procession was headed to the cemetery, the private motorcycle escort was having trouble keeping up.

He said other motorists were zipping past the slow-moving line of cars and weaving in and out of the procession to try to exit Central Expressway. He also said an accident at Walnut Hill Lane added to the problems.

Bernal, who was in the funeral procession, said he then ordered on-duty assistance to help control traffic.

"It was dangerous, and it was a matter of public safety," Bernal said.

He said officers, mostly on motorcycles, met up with the procession on Central Expressway at Mockingbird Lane and traveled with the procession the rest of the way to the cemetery.

The officers shut down exits as the processions moved along C.F. Hawn Freeway.

He said he did not tell the officers they were responding to help with the funeral procession for Brown.

Bernal's decision set off a firestorm within the Dallas Police Department, with police associations representing rank-and-file officers condemning the decision.

"It was bad judgment," said Glenn White, president of the Dallas Police Association. "It's repulsive. It embarrasses the entire Dallas Police Department."

White said escorts are rarely, if ever, provided for private funerals. He called upon Bernal to resign.

Bernal met with police associations and the widow of a slain Dallas police officer Friday evening to explain his actions, but officers remained angry.

Earlier, Mike Walton, president of the Dallas Fraternal Order of Police, said, "I apologize to the Shaw family for dishonoring their husband's memory and taking the full attention away from them by us escorting that procession.

"Chief Bernal made a serious judgment error by allowing that to happen because we as police officers understand the significance of a fallen officer."

Suhm's statement Friday evening said the decision to ask for assistance for the procession was made without her knowledge or approval "and contrary to [her] specific instructions."

"This action was also conducted without Chief David Brown's knowledge," Suhm stated.
Bernal said he knew his decision would be controversial.

"I want to take full responsibility. I made the decision to do it, and this was absolutely not planned," Bernal said. "I did it out of respect for my chief and for a family who had lost somebody."

As he left the police association's headquarters Friday evening, Bernal said he had no regrets about the decision he made. Regarding Suhm's statement, he said, "I welcome an investigation."

Asked whether he would resign, "Absolutely not. I have no reason to."

 

[Insayn]

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Dallas officers still seething over funeral procession for Police Chief David Brown's son

Tanya Eiserer/Reporter

The virulent eruption surrounding the decision to order an apparent last-minute escort Friday for the funeral procession of a cop-killer, who is the son of Dallas' police chief, shows no sign of abating.

Since word leaked Friday afternoon about the order made by Dallas police Deputy Chief Julian Bernal, I have been inundated by outraged phone calls, emails and text messages from current and retired Dallas police officers.

The general sentiment is that it dishonored the memory of slain Lancaster police Officer Craig Shaw and the innocent bystander who were killed by Brown Jr. in a Father's Day shootout.

On Undergroundcop.com, a private message board for Dallas police officers, they are saying that a protest march is being scheduled for 8 a.m. Monday in front of Police Headquarters. There is also word on the the site that a meeting has been scheduled for 6 p.m. Wednesday at the Dallas Police Association's Headquarters, and that City Manager Mary Suhm is invited.

In my eight years of covering the Dallas Police Department, I have never witnessed officers more upset about a decision made by a member of the command staff. Even officers that I would normally consider mild-mannered and even-keeled are up in arms.

"While I feel for Chief Brown, this is the first time ... that I felt ashamed to put on the uniform," one veteran supervisor wrote in a text message. "I kept thinking of all those across the country who have grieved an officer killed in the line of duty."

The story has even gone national with my original blog post even getting a mention on the Drudge Report. That post already has generated more than 550 comments, and the number keeps climbing. Many of those have opposed Bernal's decision.

"I am DPD and I am ashamed," one commenter wrote.

Here's the reason for their visceral reaction: Historically, escorts have been reserved for officers who die in the line of duty, deceased officers, families of police officers and other dignitaries. In other words, it's for someone who dies under honorable circumstances.

That's why they see it is as such an unpardonable sin that a cop-killer would receive what they consider a high honor.

They aren't accepting explanations from Bernal that this was a matter of public safety.

One police association president said that's because officers know that funeral processions come down Dallas' busy highways every day and rarely, if ever, receive any kind of help when they encounter traffic snarls.

Officers have said that 10 to 12 motorcycles and at least one squad car ended up helping out with the Brown Jr. escort.

What's more, officers want to know if anyone else from the command staff -- including second-in-command First Assistant Chief Charlie Cato and Chief Brown himself -- were aware of what was happening as the procession proceeded down Central Expressway to C.F. Hawn Freeway and then to the cemetery in Pleasant Grove?

And they want to know if other command staff members were aware, did they make any attempt to put a stop to it? And if not, were they OK with Bernal's decision?

Already, Suhm has put out a statement distancing herself and Chief Brown from the incident, and promising a full inquiry, and perhaps discipline.

The head of the Dallas Police Association has called for the resignation of Bernal who said he sees no reason to step aside. The president of the Dallas Fraternal Order of Police also has condemned the decision by Bernal, who is currently an acting assistant chief.

Clearly, there is more to come on this firestorm.

 

[Phylodog]

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Man what a mess.

Horrible decision by Bernal. Obviously he shouldn't have authorized or ordered the assistance of the traffic unit. The fact that he is apparently unable to recognize or admit how wrong he was should be evidence enough to have him demoted. He sounds like the typical admin puke found at the top of most LE agencies. Very, very few are there because they possess the intelligence and desire to do the right thing, for the right reasons, at the right time.

 

[paulo_santos]

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While I don't agree with Bernal's decision, I also don't agree with the way the Police Union handled it. Keep that stuff inhouse. I've seen firsthand what happens when stuff like that goes public.

We had a similar incident like this in my hometown with the retired chief's son. Never a good situation.

 

[427Cobra]

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I think it shows Brown character, he fathered and raised a son, that son kills a police officier, shoots at other people and gets himself killed. He needs to go, he raised a killer, a human being with no respect for the Police, how can he be trusted to "Serve and Protect" the City of Dallas when he couldn't teach his own flesh and blood right and wrong, oh this wasn't his sons first brush with the law.

 

[ballsdeep]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: paulosantos</div><div class="ubbcode-body">While I don't agree with Bernal's decision, I also don't agree with the way the Police Union handled it. Keep that stuff inhouse. I've seen firsthand what happens when stuff like that goes public.

We had a similar incident like this in my hometown with the retired chief's son. Never a good situation. </div></div>

Really? as long as my tax dollars are paying an officers wage it should be public knowledge what is happening....

 

[300WSM]

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yikes!

 

[paulo_santos]

Re: Lancaster, TX Officer Killed on Father's Day by Da

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ballsdeep</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: paulosantos</div><div class="ubbcode-body">While I don't agree with Bernal's decision, I also don't agree with the way the Police Union handled it. Keep that stuff inhouse. I've seen firsthand what happens when stuff like that goes public.

We had a similar incident like this in my hometown with the retired chief's son. Never a good situation. </div></div>

Really? as long as my tax dollars are paying an officers wage it should be public knowledge what is happening.... </div></div>

I was referring to how the Police Union were publicly talking about Bernal. That should have stayed inhouse.

 

[Insayn]

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Regardless of the union's comments/opinions it is a very touchy issue amoung the rank and file. Apparently, this has hit the national media mainstream and continues to get more intersting.
The number 2 in command admits to being in the car with Chief Bernal after rumors began to surface about his attendence. I guess he was trying to lay low to see if he could slip by.

Dallas Police: Who's in Charge?

by REBECCA LOPEZ

WFAA

Posted on June 28, 2010 at 2:33 PM

Updated yesterday at 10:24 PM

DALLAS — The top two men currently in charge of the Dallas Police Department are under fire and under investigation for a decision to call in motorcycle officers to escort the funeral procession of David Brown Jr., the man who killed Lancaster police Officer Craig Shaw on Father's Day.

Complicating the equation: Brown was the son of Dallas police Cheif David Brown Sr.

City leaders have called for an internal investigation into the actions of Chief Julian Bernal and Chief Charles Cato. Cato is currently running the department in Chief Brown's absence.

"The last-minute decision made by whoever it was — be it Chief Bernal or Chief Cato — it was a bad call from the get-go," said Sgt. George Aranda of the Latino Peace Officers Association. "It was irresponsible and inconsiderate."

Chief Bernal and Chief Cato met with City Manager Mary Suhm Monday morning. Sources say the two had a serious conversation with Suhm about their actions.

"There is going to be an investigation, as there should be, and the investigation will be done the right way," said Mayor Tom Leppert.

In a letter to the police department issued Monday, Chief Cato said he and Chief Bernal jointly made the decision to call in a motorcycle escort for Brown's funeral, and Cato said he accepts responsibility as the Acting Chief of Police.

"I truly regret and apologize to anyone who has been offended or hurt by this decision," Cato said in his written statement. "Please know that neither I nor Chief Bernal intended in any way to be disrespectful to any fallen officer."

But the question on the minds of many officers and the public is why chiefs Bernal and Cato didn't consider the ramifications of ordering about a dozen officers to escort the funeral procession of the man who killed a fellow police officer — even if he was the son of the Dallas police chief.

"There might have been good intentions from other people. The reality is, it was not the right thing to do," said City Council member Jerry Allen.

News 8 has learned that the motorcycle officers who were summoned to escort the Brown funeral party were already in early to escort the body of Lancaster Officer Craig Shaw, one of two men killed by Brown. That's why there were so many officers who were readily available for duty.

The officers were used for Brown's escort, but still made it to their primary assignment to escort Shaw's body.

Now, some in the department are wondering about its leadership.

"Something needs to be done," Aranda said. "This department is in complete disarray. There is no focus. There is a lack of leadership, and we don't know how long Chief Brown is going to be gone."

And officers are raising this question: If the two top leaders under Brown are under investigation, who should now run the department?

 

[match308]

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Today the added info broke reporting that, because of the motorcade of LE dispatched to the copkiller's funeral, that the fallen Lancaster officers funeral ceremony was delayed until the officers could return to participate. Heads need to F'in roll!

 

[Phylodog]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Insayn</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
"Please know that neither I nor Chief Bernal intended in any way to be disrespectful to any fallen officer." <span style="color: #FF0000">"Please understand that like many high ranking officials in appointed positions, I was blinded by an overwhelming desire to suck up to the Chief at all costs." </span>

But the question on the minds of many officers and the public is why chiefs Bernal and Cato didn't consider the ramifications of ordering about a dozen officers to escort the funeral procession of the man who killed a fellow police officer — even if he was the son of the Dallas police chief. <span style="color: #FF0000">See line in read above for the answer</span>
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[eddieo]

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The decision to give the escort was fucking disgraceful. fuck the murdering bastard and let his body be traqnsported by and ass and cart...

However in relation to the dad, "Chief" .... None of us who are parents expect our kids to go and become murdering POS's... We do our best as parents for our kids. 99.99% of the time its works but some despite our best efforts slip up.

My mother today met a friend of hers in church.. My mother is a good god fearing woman who was the recent victim of a vicious and brutal attack in her own home by a drug addict she was trying to help.. This lady is also a good god fearing woman. I went to school with her son, Christopher .... He was a drug addicted piece of shit then and the last time anyone saw him he was running from the scene of a double murder...

The person who arranged the murder was also recently murdered, ironically not far from where I now live... When Christopher escaped to Spain he was promptly murdered himself and today his body has not been found... His mother told my mother she knew what he was, junkie, strung out etc etc etc ..,,, However she just wants his body back to give him a decent burial as he is her son.... She understands he is dead and accepts it...


Point of the story... The chief is more than likely a good man... he had one bad one... the POS deserved what he got but unfortunately IMHO but it took the life of another good man to make this happen. At the end of the day and despite our best efforts it is possible that one of our kids may turn out bad...

My 11 yr old son got his school report today. We have a deal that he gets $10 for a good report and $0 for a bad one... The first thing he says when he walk through the door is " Dad you owe me $10.... in my opinion it was the best $10 I have ever spent...

"THERE BUT FOR THE GRACE OF GOD"

 

[black_ump]

Re: Lancaster, TX Officer Killed on Father's Day by Da

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ballsdeep</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: paulosantos</div><div class="ubbcode-body">While I don't agree with Bernal's decision, I also don't agree with the way the Police Union handled it. Keep that stuff inhouse. I've seen firsthand what happens when stuff like that goes public.

We had a similar incident like this in my hometown with the retired chief's son. Never a good situation. </div></div>

Really? as long as my tax dollars are paying an officers wage it should be public knowledge what is happening.... </div></div>

was thinking the vary same thing

 

[UKDslayer]

Re: Lancaster, TX Officer Killed on Father's Day by Da

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 427Cobra</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I think it shows Brown character, he fathered and raised a son, that son kills a police officier, shoots at other people and gets himself killed. He needs to go, he raised a killer, a human being with no respect for the Police, how can he be trusted to "Serve and Protect" the City of Dallas when he couldn't teach his own flesh and blood right and wrong, oh this wasn't his sons first brush with the law. </div></div>

Agreed to some extent, but his son was an adult who had free will to make his own decision. This guy (Brown) just assumed this position. And there are still questions as to where the AR came from. When you see the scene, and the number of rounds his son fired ("many" is an understatement) in a tight apartment complex, I think its a blessing more innocents weren't killed.