? ON NEW RIFLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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...seriously?
SEARCH!!!! LAY OFF THE EXCLAMATION MARKS!!!!!
Google is your friend as this subject has been discussed numerous times.
here's some help.
www.google.com
not trying to be a dick but cmon, there's seriously oodles of information on just this subject.
...seriously?
SEARCH!!!! LAY OFF THE EXCLAMATION MARKS!!!!!
Google is your friend as this subject has been discussed numerous times.
here's some help.
www.google.com
not trying to be a dick but cmon, there's seriously oodles of information on just this subject.
Re: ? ON NEW RIFLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: hucks</div><div class="ubbcode-body">which would be the better rifle to buy a 700 R5 or a 700 P both in 308. </div></div>
you have a ways to go till you hit 51....
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: hucks</div><div class="ubbcode-body">which would be the better rifle to buy a 700 R5 or a 700 P both in 308. </div></div>
you have a ways to go till you hit 51....
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Apache</div><div class="ubbcode-body">...seriously?
SEARCH!!!! LAY OFF THE EXCLAMATION MARKS!!!!!
Google is your friend as this subject has been discussed numerous times.
here's some help.
www.google.com
not trying to be a dick but cmon, there's seriously oodles of information on just this subject. </div></div>
Just answer him if your going to take the time to teach him a lesson by telling him to "use the search"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
5R is considered more accurate by most..better??
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Apache</div><div class="ubbcode-body">...seriously?
SEARCH!!!! LAY OFF THE EXCLAMATION MARKS!!!!!
Google is your friend as this subject has been discussed numerous times.
here's some help.
www.google.com
not trying to be a dick but cmon, there's seriously oodles of information on just this subject. </div></div>
Just answer him if your going to take the time to teach him a lesson by telling him to "use the search"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
5R is considered more accurate by most..better??
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You don't need 51 posts to buy things...
Either will do, the 5R is nice, but I had a 700P that shot great. Still have a 700P.
You don't need 51 posts to buy things...
Either will do, the 5R is nice, but I had a 700P that shot great. Still have a 700P.
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i belive the 5r is 1-11 twist and the 700p is 1-12 tw. i seen both in action and both shot really good.
its up to you, newby, welcome!
i belive the 5r is 1-11 twist and the 700p is 1-12 tw. i seen both in action and both shot really good.
its up to you, newby, welcome!
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the 5r has been the best factory rifles I have ever owned,traded it for a new LTR and have definitly regreted it.
the 5r has been the best factory rifles I have ever owned,traded it for a new LTR and have definitly regreted it.
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apache i have searched and read and searched some more. I have a 5R on the way to my ffl but i was just wondering if i made the right decision? thanks to those that helped me with my question. And for the welcome thanks for having me and i know i will be asking more questions there is an abundance of knowledge on this site and so far everyone have been great thanks everyone
apache i have searched and read and searched some more. I have a 5R on the way to my ffl but i was just wondering if i made the right decision? thanks to those that helped me with my question. And for the welcome thanks for having me and i know i will be asking more questions there is an abundance of knowledge on this site and so far everyone have been great thanks everyone
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Good choice on the 5r. what glass are you looking to put on it?
Drop that 5r in a PS stock and its a great long range/tact-shooter.
Good choice on the 5r. what glass are you looking to put on it?
Drop that 5r in a PS stock and its a great long range/tact-shooter.
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Not to drag out a dead topic, but I argue that the difference is "in the noise." I happen to like parkerizing, so that'd sway me away from the 5R (unless you can get them parkerized and I just missed that). I think the P is cheaper, generally, so that's a plus. If the chambers are cut about the same (looooong lead to the rifling), then I'm not sure what's so great about one vs the other.
Regardless, the dominating force will be what you feed them with, and "how good" you are. I don't think of myself as a "skilled marksman", but I have an all-factory 700PSS that I shoot 1.25-1.5 inch groups at 300 yards. Ammo is all handloaded and the result of seemingly endless experimentation, measurement, etc. etc. I still think I could do better (have determined some variables to change to see) but I'm going to sell that gun to make room for a new one thanks to the Surgeon group buy.
The 5R rifling is "neat" in that it supposedly is easier to clean, but given the number of supremely good barrels out there that aren't 5R, it can't be that "just" being 5R makes it better. I think both barrels are still hammer forged, so it's not like for $100 more you get a hand-lapped, lathe-turned, single-point-cut rifling barrel or whatever.
If buying a 5R means you get a rifle that has components that were selected to match each other in tolerances and such, then that's great, but I've yet to find anything other than hear-say and rumor about the 5R being "better" than others. I'm not disagreeing with the "general understanding... better rifle" — I've gathered the same thing — but rather saying that I haven't been able for find specifics as to why.
Cheers!
Not to drag out a dead topic, but I argue that the difference is "in the noise." I happen to like parkerizing, so that'd sway me away from the 5R (unless you can get them parkerized and I just missed that). I think the P is cheaper, generally, so that's a plus. If the chambers are cut about the same (looooong lead to the rifling), then I'm not sure what's so great about one vs the other.
Regardless, the dominating force will be what you feed them with, and "how good" you are. I don't think of myself as a "skilled marksman", but I have an all-factory 700PSS that I shoot 1.25-1.5 inch groups at 300 yards. Ammo is all handloaded and the result of seemingly endless experimentation, measurement, etc. etc. I still think I could do better (have determined some variables to change to see) but I'm going to sell that gun to make room for a new one thanks to the Surgeon group buy.
The 5R rifling is "neat" in that it supposedly is easier to clean, but given the number of supremely good barrels out there that aren't 5R, it can't be that "just" being 5R makes it better. I think both barrels are still hammer forged, so it's not like for $100 more you get a hand-lapped, lathe-turned, single-point-cut rifling barrel or whatever.
If buying a 5R means you get a rifle that has components that were selected to match each other in tolerances and such, then that's great, but I've yet to find anything other than hear-say and rumor about the 5R being "better" than others. I'm not disagreeing with the "general understanding... better rifle" — I've gathered the same thing — but rather saying that I haven't been able for find specifics as to why.
Cheers!
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Throat is the same: http://www.snipershide.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=1637895&gonew=1#UNREAD
Throat is the same: http://www.snipershide.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=1637895&gonew=1#UNREAD
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thats cool. its ok but i research everything to determine what is my best route, and the glass i am planing on putting on this rifle is a fixed 10 from us optics. i like fixed power scopes imho i like them they are simpler to me. i am new to the long range deal. I wish i could steal my fathers robar but i only get to look not touch.
thats cool. its ok but i research everything to determine what is my best route, and the glass i am planing on putting on this rifle is a fixed 10 from us optics. i like fixed power scopes imho i like them they are simpler to me. i am new to the long range deal. I wish i could steal my fathers robar but i only get to look not touch.
