Suppressors Ops Inc M4M

#3
Re: Ops Inc M4M

There isn't any official published specs out for the M4M yet that I have seen. But we have shot it and played with it a lot. Going off the M4S, it's about 1.5-2" longer, about 2-3oz heavier and several more baffles inside then a M4S. It's pretty comparable to the SF Mini in sound and the mounting system is the same as the 14th, 15th, 16th and M4S. Official pricing hasn't been announced yet. It should be around the 400 dollar mark without the brake and collar.
 
#4
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 762frmafr</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jakhamr81</div><div class="ubbcode-body">What are the specs on the Ops Inc M4M?

Thanks </div></div>

Here you go!!! </div></div>

Really, smart ass? Already tried that; as Houston Armory stated, the official specs are not out yet. Work on your post count elsewhere.

Chris, thanks for the info, I'm really excited to here that the M4M is offering about the same db reduction as the SF Mini and for $1,000 less.

 
#5
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jakhamr81</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 762frmafr</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jakhamr81</div><div class="ubbcode-body">What are the specs on the Ops Inc M4M?

Thanks </div></div>

Here you go!!! </div></div>

Really, smart ass? Already tried that; as Houston Armory stated, the official specs are not out yet. Work on your post count elsewhere.

Chris, thanks for the info, I'm really excited to here that the M4M is offering about the same db reduction as the SF Mini and for $1,000 less.

</div></div>
I'm pretty sure I saw a phone number on that website....I could be wrong though...
 
#6
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No need to keep calling Ron and keep him from building suppressors when their members on this site who are actually knowledgeable in these subjects and are willing to share that knowledge instead of posting smart ass replies just to boost their post counts.
 
#7
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jakhamr81</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> posting smart ass replies just to boost their post counts. </div></div>

Yes....I am sure that's why I posted what I posted. It has nothing to do with the fact that your question could have been answered buy a simple Google search...
 
#8
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 762frmafr</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jakhamr81</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> posting smart ass replies just to boost their post counts. </div></div>

Yes....I am sure that's why I posted what I posted. It has nothing to do with the fact that your question could have been answered buy a simple Google search...</div></div>

Clearly, you did not put your theory to the test.
 
#10
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#11
Re: Ops Inc M4M

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 762frmafr</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jakhamr81</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> Clearly, you did not put your theory to the test. </div></div>

Clear as mud...The answer is there for those that seek it...(530)742-3248</div></div>

In case you missed this the last time I posted it. <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jakhamr81</div><div class="ubbcode-body">No need to keep calling Ron and keep him from building suppressors when their members on this site who are actually knowledgeable in these subjects and are willing to share that knowledge instead of posting smart ass replies just to boost their post counts. </div></div>
 
#12
Re: Ops Inc M4M

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jakhamr81</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 762frmafr</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jakhamr81</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> Clearly, you did not put your theory to the test. </div></div>

Clear as mud...The answer is there for those that seek it...(530)742-3248</div></div>

In case you missed this the last time I posted it. <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jakhamr81</div><div class="ubbcode-body">No need to keep calling Ron and keep him from building suppressors when their members on this site who are actually knowledgeable in these subjects and are willing to share that knowledge instead of posting smart ass replies just to boost their post counts. </div></div> </div></div>

So instead of figuring out the answer yourself with a 5 minute phone call, you wasted bandwidth on this site and let someone spoon feed you. That is great. I hope you don't have children because that is a horrible example to set for the already messed up youth of America.
 
#13
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Dude, if it bothers you that much, then don't read it. Are you really concerned with bandwidth? Then why do you keep replying??? Ohh, that's right post counts, not because you have something intelligent to say.
 
#18
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Lazy21</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> really good info here


LOL, check out the the first one that pops up......</div></div>

Ha, now that's funny.

...And 762, yes, I am glad to not have called up Ron, who is more than willing to answer any and every question a person has, and keep him from building high quality suppressors and mounts.


I have taken up more than my fair share of Ron's time.
 
#19
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I feel like this is a visual representation of what 762 is doing.
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#21
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You would think that an FFL/ SOT dealer would be a little more helpful. I hope for the sake of his business and family if he has one, that he does not speak to his customers that way.
 
#22
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jakhamr81</div><div class="ubbcode-body">You would think that an FFL/ SOT dealer would be a little more helpful. I hope for the sake of his business and family if he has one, that he does not speak to his customers that way. </div></div>
People have to call me on the phone to become my customer. So it doesn't look like I have to worry about you.
 
#25
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jamescaan</div><div class="ubbcode-body">FWIW, 762 answered all my questions, even the dumbass ones, without acting like I was a moron. I've asked more stupid crap than you can imagine.</div></div> <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jamescaan</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Ohhh, I did call. That explains it.</div></div>

This must just be his internet tough guy act then.
 
#29
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Cris,

Thanks for answering the question as I did a google search on SNIPERSHIDE to fidn a decent answer after first visiting Ops Inc's website. A more familiar non-invested response is appreciated.
BTW as I understand it Ops Inc is the only suppressor rated for a 7" 556 barrel???


Pat
 
#30
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They say down to 7.5". About the shortest we have gone so far is 10.5". I have only seen the Spikes Tactical Compressor rifle use a 7.5" barrel, but from talking to Spikes, it works, but with the added pressure from that short of a barrel, you run the risk of budging the suppressor.
 
#31
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jakhamr81, I heard the M4M will suppress a 105 howitzer to 3 db's. I also heard that it duals as a fleshlight.

now that i gave you some free specs, why would a guy with over 2,000 posts be building post count? is there some magic prize obtained at 3,000?

in what inbred alternate universe is not calling the manufacturer with your questions about their product the solution?

person A gave you a link, person B gave you first hand experience with person A, person C(me) thinks your a fucking retard
 
#32
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: VAJayJayPunisher</div><div class="ubbcode-body">jakhamr81, I heard the M4M will suppress a 105 howitzer to 3 db's. I also heard that it duals as a fleshlight.

now that i gave you some free specs, why would a guy with over 2,000 posts be building post count? is there some magic prize obtained at 3,000?

in what inbred alternate universe is not calling the manufacturer with your questions about their product the solution?

person A gave you a link, person B gave you first hand experience with person A, person C(me) thinks your a fucking retard </div></div>

Now that is funny... By the way...I am working on my post count so I can get that cool prize...
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#33
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: VAJayJayPunisher</div><div class="ubbcode-body">jakhamr81, I heard the M4M will suppress a 105 howitzer to 3 db's. I also heard that it duals as a fleshlight.

now that i gave you some free specs, why would a guy with over 2,000 posts be building post count? is there some magic prize obtained at 3,000?

in what inbred alternate universe is not calling the manufacturer with your questions about their product the solution?

person A gave you a link, person B gave you first hand experience with person A, person C(me) thinks your a fucking retard </div></div>

beautifully epic.
 
#35
Re: Ops Inc M4M

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: VAJayJayPunisher</div><div class="ubbcode-body">jakhamr81, I heard the M4M will suppress a 105 howitzer to 3 db's. I also heard that it duals as a fleshlight.

now that i gave you some free specs, why would a guy with over 2,000 posts be building post count? is there some magic prize obtained at 3,000?

in what inbred alternate universe is not calling the manufacturer with your questions about their product the solution?

person A gave you a link, person B gave you first hand experience with person A, person C(me) thinks your a fucking retard </div></div>

did you forget jayjay, we have to be nice to the noobs now no matter how fucking retarded they are or how badly they deserve a pwning and prompt teabaggery. get with the program and sing jakhamr81 sum koombya riffs all campfireside-like yo.
 
#37
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Houston Armory</div><div class="ubbcode-body">They say down to 7.5". About the shortest we have gone so far is 10.5". I have only seen the Spikes Tactical Compressor rifle use a 7.5" barrel, but from talking to Spikes, it works, but with the added pressure from that short of a barrel, you run the risk of budging the suppressor.

</div></div>

Ok I finally contacted Ops Inc and slowed someones suppressor by 5 or 10 minutes.

The M4M will work fine on a 7.5" barreled 5.56 but the baffles sees increased erosion and the suppressor will need to be rebuilt sooner than on longer barreled firearms. I was going to ask how much it cut the life as 30k rounds is a lifetimes use for most so if the can has to be rebuilt after half as many rounds...15k is still alot of rounds sent down range but I didn't want to slow someone elses can build down.

Pat
 
#39
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: BachelorJack</div><div class="ubbcode-body">2-4k depending on firing schedule. You can also make this much shorter depending on powder used and running it hard.

Generally, the barrel is done about the same time as the suppressor and they get replaced as a unit. </div></div>

That's probably not too far from what service life would likely be. The M4M being so short, it is going to derive a lot of its performance from the bore diameter, and that is what will probably be eroding rapidly on a 7.5" 5.56 gun.
 
#40
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Griffin Armament</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: BachelorJack</div><div class="ubbcode-body">2-4k depending on firing schedule. You can also make this much shorter depending on powder used and running it hard.

Generally, the barrel is done about the same time as the suppressor and they get replaced as a unit. </div></div>

That's probably not too far from what service life would likely be. </div></div>
I appreciate that <span style="text-decoration: underline">you suspect</span> the information I have given is <span style="text-decoration: underline">probably close to being correct</span>.

Those figures come from actual testing and spending time and money to find out the answer. I didn't conjure them out of the air, as you are so often inclined to do....
 
#41
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: BachelorJack</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Griffin Armament</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: BachelorJack</div><div class="ubbcode-body">2-4k depending on firing schedule. You can also make this much shorter depending on powder used and running it hard.

Generally, the barrel is done about the same time as the suppressor and they get replaced as a unit. </div></div>

That's probably not too far from what service life would likely be. </div></div>
I appreciate that <span style="text-decoration: underline">you suspect</span> the information I have given is <span style="text-decoration: underline">probably close to being correct</span>.

Those figures come from actual testing and spending time and money to find out the answer. I didn't conjure them out of the air, as you are so often inclined to do.... </div></div>

Maybe you could lower the level of hostility just a few degrees. I was actually agreeing with you.

If you test something the OP asks about specifically, it is generally a good idea to say so and describe what kind of test you conducted in the interest of helping the guy gather the information and to understand its significance. That supporting information reinforces your statement that otherwise sounds like an opinion statement which is still a valid form of help.

People don't have a window to your personal data collected from related destructive testing, so to them, an opinion statement based on related experiences can be helpful, even as an approximation.

We don't use 7.5" barrels, but we do use 10.3" and 10.5" barrels and have conducted high ROF testing of multiple different systems to help us understand the mechanisms of wear and failure and also how to modify construction and geometry to confront them. As a class II SOT I don't have to pay $200 extra dollars and wait 3-6 months to destroy something on purpose.


 
#42
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Griffin Armament</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Maybe you could lower the level of hostility just a few degrees.

If you test something the OP asks about specifically, it is generally a good idea to say so and describe what kind of test you conducted in the interest of helping the guy gather the information. That supporting information reinforces your your statement that otherwise sounds like an opinion statement which is still a valid form of help.

People don't have a window to your personal data collected from related destructive testing, so to them, an opinion statement can be helpful even as an approximation.

We don't use 7.5" barrels but we do use 10.3" and 10.5" barrels and high ROF testing to help us understand the forces at play. As a class II SOT I don't have to pay $200 extra dollars and wait 3-6 months to destroy something on purpose.</div></div>

You are right. You are a site sponsor, and I'm out of line. Please accept my apology. Thank you for continuing to support this site, as I very much like it, and being a member here. I don't have feelings, and often forget others really do. Sorry if I hurt yours.

My NDA's do not permit me to give specific information regarding testing, either detailed specifics or exact results. Thus my answers are usually as specific as I can give while still remaining vague enough so as not to release confidential information. This information is confidential for a myriad of reasons. My continued access to an environment where this type of testing takes place depends on my ability to safeguard what happens in it.

When I post my opinion, I am very clear that is what I am doing and where my opinion comes from. Otherwise I am posting because I am in a unique position to actually have the answer. If I don't know what I am talking about, I keep my mouth shut.

My posts are almost always one of five types:
1- I will buy what you are selling, thank you very much.
2- Would you like to buy some stuff I don't need anymore?
3- That's dumb. You don't know what you are talking about.
4- Here is the answer you seek.
5- I have a question I have not been able to answer after many hours of searching and reading.

End of thread hijack.
 
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