Just a quick update on the 285's. A customer just won the International Benchrest Association, 1000 yd. Heavy Gun group, National Championship. It was a four 10 shot target aggregate shot over three days in some not so good conditons. He and one other shooter were the only ones to agg under 10". This was the first time a 338 has won for group at the National Championships. I built him a tight neck 338 Norma Mag.
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Re: Performance update on Hornady 285's
Ohhh, sure Dave, tease us with results of the few lucky bastards that already have these bullets while the rest of us have to patiently, I usually don't do well in this department, wait for them to be released to the public. This could be classified as cruel and unusual punishment you know....
These results pretty much backup what you have been saying about these 285's. That they shoot, very, well!
You know this makes the waiting that much more difficult. lol
Ohhh, sure Dave, tease us with results of the few lucky bastards that already have these bullets while the rest of us have to patiently, I usually don't do well in this department, wait for them to be released to the public. This could be classified as cruel and unusual punishment you know....
These results pretty much backup what you have been saying about these 285's. That they shoot, very, well!
You know this makes the waiting that much more difficult. lol
Re: Performance update on Hornady 285's
Sorry about that.
NOT
As soon as I hear about a release date I'll let you know.
Sorry about that.
NOT
As soon as I hear about a release date I'll let you know.
Re: Performance update on Hornady 285's
Let me know too..would love to try them in the .338 Hulk!
Let me know too..would love to try them in the .338 Hulk!
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Yea Yea Yea
Yea Yea Yea
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285- I like it. Hope they hit the market soon.
285- I like it. Hope they hit the market soon.
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But as Paul Harvey would say, "now for the rest of the story"..
2nd and 3rd place shot 6 Dashers with a 9.6 and 10.7 respectively.
Hell, I shot a 12.3 agg and took 12th in HG group with my Dasher, with a 9, two 10's and a 18. One 10 and the 18 came on day two with the gusts to 45 MPH. (won the relay with the 10 also)
The overall winner shot a 6 Dasher.
Dave, missed your smiling face.
But as Paul Harvey would say, "now for the rest of the story"..
2nd and 3rd place shot 6 Dashers with a 9.6 and 10.7 respectively.
Hell, I shot a 12.3 agg and took 12th in HG group with my Dasher, with a 9, two 10's and a 18. One 10 and the 18 came on day two with the gusts to 45 MPH. (won the relay with the 10 also)
The overall winner shot a 6 Dasher.
Dave, missed your smiling face.
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Hated to miss this one. That's the first Nationals I've missed since we started. I'm sure no one missed me, just the cooler on the front of the truck.
I was going by the equipment list showing Jim shot a 300 Ack and Glenn a 6 Dasher. My hats off to them for keeping it close in those conditions.
Hated to miss this one. That's the first Nationals I've missed since we started. I'm sure no one missed me, just the cooler on the front of the truck.
I was going by the equipment list showing Jim shot a 300 Ack and Glenn a 6 Dasher. My hats off to them for keeping it close in those conditions.
Re: Performance update on Hornady 285's
Here are pics, L to R of the Hornady, Sierra, Lapua and Berger 300 gr bullets.
Happy now?
Here are pics, L to R of the Hornady, Sierra, Lapua and Berger 300 gr bullets.
Happy now?
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Thanks Dave!!!
Kinda what I would envision if the 300SMK and 300 Scenar had a love child... But I like it and I really like what I read about their results.
Now when and where can I get some??? lol
Thanks Dave!!!
Kinda what I would envision if the 300SMK and 300 Scenar had a love child...
Now when and where can I get some??? lol
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Now if only Hornady would do a custom 338 round like they did with the Creedmoor...Hummmm
Now if only Hornady would do a custom 338 round like they did with the Creedmoor...Hummmm
Re: Performance update on Hornady 285's
Can we expect the meplates to look like that on all the bullets when they come out?
Can we expect the meplates to look like that on all the bullets when they come out?
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From bullets I have here, knowing the engineer, knowing the press operator, knowing the press they're made on, I would think it's pretty safe to say that's what they'll all look like. The engineer shoots 1K competition so he is well aware of what is required of a long range bullet. This didn't happen in the last 6 months. Some cranky, outspoken target shooters, a sympathetic ear and a multi year commitment from management is how we got to this point.
From bullets I have here, knowing the engineer, knowing the press operator, knowing the press they're made on, I would think it's pretty safe to say that's what they'll all look like. The engineer shoots 1K competition so he is well aware of what is required of a long range bullet. This didn't happen in the last 6 months. Some cranky, outspoken target shooters, a sympathetic ear and a multi year commitment from management is how we got to this point.
Re: Performance update on Hornady 285's
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Dave Tooley</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Just a quick update on the 285's. A customer just won the International Benchrest Association, 1000 yd. Heavy Gun group, National Championship. It was a four 10 shot target aggregate shot over three days in some not so good conditons. He and one other shooter were the only ones to agg under 10". This was the first time a 338 has won for group at the National Championships. I built him a tight neck 338 Norma Mag.</div></div>
Great job!
Accurate Shooter Daily Bulletin story
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Dave Tooley</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Just a quick update on the 285's. A customer just won the International Benchrest Association, 1000 yd. Heavy Gun group, National Championship. It was a four 10 shot target aggregate shot over three days in some not so good conditons. He and one other shooter were the only ones to agg under 10". This was the first time a 338 has won for group at the National Championships. I built him a tight neck 338 Norma Mag.</div></div>
Great job!
Accurate Shooter Daily Bulletin story
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More propaganda
www.shootingwire.com/story/225338
Word is they'll be avaialable in the next couple of months.
We'll see.
More propaganda
www.shootingwire.com/story/225338
Word is they'll be avaialable in the next couple of months.
We'll see.
Re: Performance update on Hornady 285's
Dave
In the first article Mr. Emary says this is the first of two new super low drag bullets Hornady will be releasing. Do you know anything about this other "super-low drag" bullet Hornady is coming out with???? Caliber, weight, etc.etc.????? Hmmmm, maybe a 220ish 30cal. would be nice.
I already know what your probably thinking, geesh guys, atleast let them come out with the 285 before you start holding my feet to the fire and quizing me about this other SLD bullet. lol
Sorry, but inquiring minds, really, want to know!!!!
Dave
In the first article Mr. Emary says this is the first of two new super low drag bullets Hornady will be releasing. Do you know anything about this other "super-low drag" bullet Hornady is coming out with???? Caliber, weight, etc.etc.????? Hmmmm, maybe a 220ish 30cal. would be nice.
I already know what your probably thinking, geesh guys, atleast let them come out with the 285 before you start holding my feet to the fire and quizing me about this other SLD bullet. lol
Sorry, but inquiring minds, really, want to know!!!!
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It's a 225gr 30cal bullet, no plastic tip, regular OTM design with a secondary pointing operation. There's been some discussion about it in this forum but I can't for the life of me remember the thread title.
It's a 225gr 30cal bullet, no plastic tip, regular OTM design with a secondary pointing operation. There's been some discussion about it in this forum but I can't for the life of me remember the thread title.
Re: Performance update on Hornady 285's
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: bohem</div><div class="ubbcode-body">It's a 225gr 30cal bullet, no plastic tip, regular OTM design with a secondary pointing operation. There's been some discussion about it in this forum but I can't for the life of me remember the thread title. </div></div>
http://www.snipershide.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=788268&page=2
Dave discusses it about two thirds down, second page.
John
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: bohem</div><div class="ubbcode-body">It's a 225gr 30cal bullet, no plastic tip, regular OTM design with a secondary pointing operation. There's been some discussion about it in this forum but I can't for the life of me remember the thread title. </div></div>
http://www.snipershide.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=788268&page=2
Dave discusses it about two thirds down, second page.
John
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That sounds awesome! Wait, I mean that sounds awesome as long as it will stabilize in a 1-10tw that is... If it will shoot in a 1-10 it should be well suited for a 30-338 Lapua Improved project I'm working on.
Dave, do you know what kind of velocity ceiling this new 285bthp is going to have? Do you know if it will hold together in the different improved 408based .338's with full power loads? Things like Bruce's Big Baer and Kirby Allen's 338Allen Mag.
That sounds awesome! Wait, I mean that sounds awesome as long as it will stabilize in a 1-10tw that is...
Dave, do you know what kind of velocity ceiling this new 285bthp is going to have? Do you know if it will hold together in the different improved 408based .338's with full power loads? Things like Bruce's Big Baer and Kirby Allen's 338Allen Mag.
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The 30 will work just fine in a 10 twist.
Will the 285 stay together in the really large cases? With what I know about it I think so. Only time and round count will tell for sure. BTW it's not really a VDL design. I can't say too much but it's closer to a tangant ogive. The big gain in performance comes from a secondary point closing up the meplat. Should be easy to tune up and more forgiving over the life of the barrel. At least that was the plan anyway.
The 30 will work just fine in a 10 twist.
Will the 285 stay together in the really large cases? With what I know about it I think so. Only time and round count will tell for sure. BTW it's not really a VDL design. I can't say too much but it's closer to a tangant ogive. The big gain in performance comes from a secondary point closing up the meplat. Should be easy to tune up and more forgiving over the life of the barrel. At least that was the plan anyway.
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Is the new 225 .30 going to basicly be the same design as the 285? Do they look the same just one is obviously smaller?
Now for the million dollar question. Since it sounds like they will be a relatively robust jacket does that mean they will act similar to the Scenar on game and just pencil?
Is the new 225 .30 going to basicly be the same design as the 285? Do they look the same just one is obviously smaller?
Now for the million dollar question. Since it sounds like they will be a relatively robust jacket does that mean they will act similar to the Scenar on game and just pencil?
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Performance on game. Waiting on a pig report.
Performance on game. Waiting on a pig report.
Re: Performance update on Hornady 285's
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: bohem</div><div class="ubbcode-body">It's a 225gr 30cal bullet, no plastic tip, regular OTM design with a secondary pointing operation. There's been some discussion about it in this forum but I can't for the life of me remember the thread title. </div></div>
I was hoping the 225 would be like a longer 208gr A-max. I'm still excited for this bullet to hit the market even if the BC just matches the 240gr SMK instead of exceeding it.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: bohem</div><div class="ubbcode-body">It's a 225gr 30cal bullet, no plastic tip, regular OTM design with a secondary pointing operation. There's been some discussion about it in this forum but I can't for the life of me remember the thread title. </div></div>
I was hoping the 225 would be like a longer 208gr A-max. I'm still excited for this bullet to hit the market even if the BC just matches the 240gr SMK instead of exceeding it.
Re: Performance update on Hornady 285's
I looked on the hornady web site but found nothing on the 285gr bullets. Did I miss it or have they not released any info yet?
I looked on the hornady web site but found nothing on the 285gr bullets. Did I miss it or have they not released any info yet?
Re: Performance update on Hornady 285's
<span style="font-size: 11pt"><span style="font-family: 'Comic Sans MS'">This was posted over on 6br </span>a few days ago.
Dave</span>
http://bulletin.accurateshooter.com/2010/10/hornadys-new-285gr-338-bullet-wins-hg-at-ibs-nationals/
<span style="font-size: 11pt"><span style="font-family: 'Comic Sans MS'">This was posted over on 6br </span>a few days ago.
Dave</span>
http://bulletin.accurateshooter.com/2010/10/hornadys-new-285gr-338-bullet-wins-hg-at-ibs-nationals/
Re: Performance update on Hornady 285's
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Dave inVa</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><span style="font-size: 11pt"><span style="font-family: 'Comic Sans MS'">This was posted over on 6br </span>a few days ago.
Dave</span>
http://bulletin.accurateshooter.com/2010/10/hornadys-new-285gr-338-bullet-wins-hg-at-ibs-nationals/ </div></div>
Thanks for the info, looking forward to shooting some of the ammo. Maybe we could get a group buy going?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Dave inVa</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><span style="font-size: 11pt"><span style="font-family: 'Comic Sans MS'">This was posted over on 6br </span>a few days ago.
Dave</span>
http://bulletin.accurateshooter.com/2010/10/hornadys-new-285gr-338-bullet-wins-hg-at-ibs-nationals/ </div></div>
Thanks for the info, looking forward to shooting some of the ammo. Maybe we could get a group buy going?
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Do we have a BC on the 285? I didn't see it posted in there.
Do we have a BC on the 285? I didn't see it posted in there.
Re: Performance update on Hornady 285's
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Long Time Long Ran</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Do we have a BC on the 285? I didn't see it posted in there. </div></div>
According to the article linked two posts up from yours, .735 G1 BC.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Long Time Long Ran</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Do we have a BC on the 285? I didn't see it posted in there. </div></div>
According to the article linked two posts up from yours, .735 G1 BC.
Re: Performance update on Hornady 285's
On the BC I've heard as high as .760 and as low as .715. The truth lies somewhere between. I haven't had time to measure the BC yet myself. That's one of those 'round to it things.
Shooting to 2K, no problem. Been there seen that.
I'll try and see if we're getting closer to the release date.
On the BC I've heard as high as .760 and as low as .715. The truth lies somewhere between. I haven't had time to measure the BC yet myself. That's one of those 'round to it things.
Shooting to 2K, no problem. Been there seen that.
I'll try and see if we're getting closer to the release date.
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Update
Wish I had better news.
Release date Jan. 1
Update
Wish I had better news.
Release date Jan. 1
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Dave Tooley</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Update
Wish I had better news.
Release date Jan. 1
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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Dave Tooley</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Update
Wish I had better news.
Release date Jan. 1
</div></div>
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Dave Tooley</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Update
Wish I had better news.
Release date Jan. 1
</div></div>
They are going to be selling like hot cakes. Will the usual vendors be carrying them? or there are secret vendors that sell them ? J?K
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Dave Tooley</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Update
Wish I had better news.
Release date Jan. 1
</div></div>
They are going to be selling like hot cakes. Will the usual vendors be carrying them? or there are secret vendors that sell them ? J?K
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I wish I'd bought the whole first run but I'm looking for a C-6 Vette. The usual sources should have them. Nothing official but the 30's should be out the same time. Might be good to contact your suppliers and make sure they get them ordered.
I wish I'd bought the whole first run but I'm looking for a C-6 Vette. The usual sources should have them. Nothing official but the 30's should be out the same time. Might be good to contact your suppliers and make sure they get them ordered.
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I just ordered 5 - 100ct boxes from Grafs, Can't wait to see what they will do in my .338 Norma mag. There website shows they have them in stock so we will see if I get them.
https://www.grafs.com/retail/catalog/product/productId/22468
I just ordered 5 - 100ct boxes from Grafs, Can't wait to see what they will do in my .338 Norma mag. There website shows they have them in stock so we will see if I get them.
https://www.grafs.com/retail/catalog/product/productId/22468
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Are these available yet? The Grafs link says they are out of stock.
Are these available yet? The Grafs link says they are out of stock.
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Thought the price was supposed to be 50 dollars for 100 not 40 per 50 thats way more expensive than SMKs
Thought the price was supposed to be 50 dollars for 100 not 40 per 50 thats way more expensive than SMKs
Re: Performance update on Hornady 285's
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: TimResin</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Thought the price was supposed to be 50 dollars for 100 not 40 per 50 thats way more expensive than SMKs </div></div>
Then you might ass well go with the bore Tech bullets at $60 for 50???
Curious has anyone tired the Hornadys with US-869 powder?
245grn .869 BC
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: TimResin</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Thought the price was supposed to be 50 dollars for 100 not 40 per 50 thats way more expensive than SMKs </div></div>
Then you might ass well go with the bore Tech bullets at $60 for 50???
Curious has anyone tired the Hornadys with US-869 powder?
245grn .869 BC
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Don't know what's going on but Hornady's website says retail is $50.39 per 100. That number makes more sense than $40 for 50. That looks like a misprint so they may sell for $40 per 100.
Don't know what's going on but Hornady's website says retail is $50.39 per 100. That number makes more sense than $40 for 50. That looks like a misprint so they may sell for $40 per 100.
Re: Performance update on Hornady 285's
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: frankythefly</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: TimResin</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Thought the price was supposed to be 50 dollars for 100 not 40 per 50 thats way more expensive than SMKs </div></div>
Then you might ass well go with the bore Tech bullets at $60 for 50???
Curious has anyone tired the Hornadys with US-869 powder?
245grn .869 BC
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Yeah I got mine from Grafs and they are only 50 bullets per box. That makes em way more $$$ then what they were suppose to be.... Did anybody get a 100ct box? The Hornady website says that they are only available in 100ct boxes. WTH??
GO-FASTER, Where did you get yours from?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: frankythefly</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: TimResin</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Thought the price was supposed to be 50 dollars for 100 not 40 per 50 thats way more expensive than SMKs </div></div>
Then you might ass well go with the bore Tech bullets at $60 for 50???
Curious has anyone tired the Hornadys with US-869 powder?
245grn .869 BC
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Yeah I got mine from Grafs and they are only 50 bullets per box. That makes em way more $$$ then what they were suppose to be.... Did anybody get a 100ct box? The Hornady website says that they are only available in 100ct boxes. WTH??
GO-FASTER, Where did you get yours from?
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When I ordered them it said 100ct box for 39.99....I'm gonna call em tomorrow and find out what the deal is. I clicked on the link I posted above and now it says 50ct boxes....?!
When I ordered them it said 100ct box for 39.99....I'm gonna call em tomorrow and find out what the deal is. I clicked on the link I posted above and now it says 50ct boxes....?!
