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Physician Heal Thyself

pmclaine

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    Is there any reason left to even consider "medicine" a science with the good of humanity at its core?

     
    I don't think they are ALL "family destroying socialist agenda" driven.

    My Dr. wears a watch band that has. We the people..... on it.

    He is an MD and he also did the scope up my butt as well. When talking to him after I noticed his watch band. I said, I noticed your watch band, he said oh yea, and pulled his white coat sleeve down over it. I said I like it. He smiled and said you just don't know how people are going to take that.

    I asked if he was a "regular" Dr as well, yes. Can I change to you. Why do you want to change. I have a feeling I like the way you think. The "old" Dr is in the same practice, and you could tell the "new" was a little uneasy about it, but he said sure, we will need to do the base 1 stuff again, sure no problem.

    The other guy was not bad, he just talked to me like I am a child. Well really I am a 58 year old child, but don't talk to me that way, and you are not funny. Just give me my heart meds, my blood pressure pills and I will be on my way.

    He hunts, camps, and we talk guns. This is also a "faith based" practice. I am pretty far from a bible thumper and despise "organized religion" but do "believe"....I also believe that religion has an agenda as well, and not much of it has to do with god.

    We get along fine, I don't think he fits into the cookie cutter world you have setup.

    I really think the "silent majority" is really large. VERY LARGE. They are just wrapped up so much in leave me the hell alone. They have not had practice at shoving their ideas down others necks, they oppose that very ideal. So we have what we have.
     
    I really think the "silent majority" is really large. VERY LARGE.
    Me too. The stuff being forced into our eye-gates and ear-gates seeks to establish the lunatic fringe as the most prevalent and presiding thought and behavior. Just like everything else we see/here these days, their forced fodder is fake.
     
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    I think silent is synonymous with perilously apathetic.


    A very fine line exists between acceptance/silence, and complacency. A line no thicker than a single strand of spider's web that is. In the martial art of Gungdo (The Way of the Bow), it is always stressed that "acceptance is what readies a soldier to fight, but if he is too ready to the point of looking away from his bow and target to focus on the wildflowers and birds around him instead, then he is of little use once the engagement has begun". That is why the meditation aspect of Gungdo involves an almost extreme exercise of holding a bow drawn while sitting exposed in inclement weather and extremely uncomfortable conditions and having to focus only on the distant target and nothing else. Even with cold rain dripping down your face and sleet pellets stinging your exposed arms, you are to only focus on that target and detail how it's visibility is changing, how the wind is moving it, etc. When the system and it's teachings are applied to the rest of life, away from the target range, it is an exercise in both stoicism and being always focused and not being distracted.

    In the folktale I posted here not too long ago, about the hunter being sent out by a brutal regional magistrate to capture a unicorn, set during the Tang Dynasty, the hunter knew that during the first encounter at the magistrate's palace, if he wanted to he could easily escape. After all, he was an excellent sharpshooter and was armed for bear. Killing a bunch of the magistrate's knights, seizing a horse, and galloping to freedom would not be a feat he could not accomplish, easily. However, he knew that his village would not escape the wrath of the very same magistrate if he had done that. Hundreds of innocent men, women, and children would be slaughtered. So he feigned compliance and once back at his hometown, immediately held a council regarding the dire situation and had all of the most wise and pragmatic people share their ideas on the best course of action. In the end, they devised the most efficient way of using the magistrate's own greed and penchance for corruption against him, fatally. The hunter and his fellow townsmen knew they had to be "silent" in order to survive, but behind the veil of silence and compliance, they thought up a plan and executed that plan.


    @fpgt72 With private medical practices, it requires a bit of looking around and doing a lot of research nowadays. There are many practicioners who actually care about promoting real wellness and looking out for their patients, but they have to be lowkey to avoid the cancel crowd from screeching and causing piranhas to descend on them from every angle.
     
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    I don't think they are ALL "family destroying socialist agenda" driven.

    My Dr. wears a watch band that has. We the people..... on it.

    He is an MD and he also did the scope up my butt as well. When talking to him after I noticed his watch band. I said, I noticed your watch band, he said oh yea, and pulled his white coat sleeve down over it. I said I like it. He smiled and said you just don't know how people are going to take that.

    I asked if he was a "regular" Dr as well, yes. Can I change to you. Why do you want to change. I have a feeling I like the way you think. The "old" Dr is in the same practice, and you could tell the "new" was a little uneasy about it, but he said sure, we will need to do the base 1 stuff again, sure no problem.

    The other guy was not bad, he just talked to me like I am a child. Well really I am a 58 year old child, but don't talk to me that way, and you are not funny. Just give me my heart meds, my blood pressure pills and I will be on my way.

    He hunts, camps, and we talk guns. This is also a "faith based" practice. I am pretty far from a bible thumper and despise "organized religion" but do "believe"....I also believe that religion has an agenda as well, and not much of it has to do with god.

    We get along fine, I don't think he fits into the cookie cutter world you have setup.

    I really think the "silent majority" is really large. VERY LARGE. They are just wrapped up so much in leave me the hell alone. They have not had practice at shoving their ideas down others necks, they oppose that very ideal. So we have what we have.
    Notice I called out the associations and not the individuals. AMA and APA are both very much fighting for the collectivist agenda, as are the regional and national medical journals.

    There’s a lot of great conservative teachers, but what do the unions support? Same-same.
     
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    Notice I called out the associations and not the individuals. AMA and APA are both very much fighting for the collectivist agenda, as are the regional and national medical journals.

    There’s a lot of great conservative teachers, but what do the unions support? Same-same.
    Using your example of teachers.......what do you do in places where it is required you join the union. Do you say hell with it and let them suffer. Or do you join the union, and still try to teach your core ideas. Trying to do what one person can to combat the crazy coming in from other directions. You can make a case for both fairly easy.

    I don't know the Dr. groups, I know nothing about Dr.'s past they give me the pills I need to stay on the green side of the grass. Do those groups add something they need, does it put an arrow in their quiver....to stay with the bow line of thinking.

    I think it does, it would allow them to network, to find like minded people. I think something like teachers unions are the same, all unions for that matter. I really get my hackles up over the, all unions, all Dr's, all teachers, all teachers in unions.........just ticks me off. For all I know it might not even be the majority. Yes those in power, those corrupt looking for more power I think you could say that of, but the rank and file......I don't think so. Again a quiet majority.
     
    Using your example of teachers.......what do you do in places where it is required you join the union. Do you say hell with it and let them suffer. Or do you join the union, and still try to teach your core ideas. Trying to do what one person can to combat the crazy coming in from other directions. You can make a case for both fairly easy.

    I don't know the Dr. groups, I know nothing about Dr.'s past they give me the pills I need to stay on the green side of the grass. Do those groups add something they need, does it put an arrow in their quiver....to stay with the bow line of thinking.

    I think it does, it would allow them to network, to find like minded people. I think something like teachers unions are the same, all unions for that matter. I really get my hackles up over the, all unions, all Dr's, all teachers, all teachers in unions.........just ticks me off. For all I know it might not even be the majority. Yes those in power, those corrupt looking for more power I think you could say that of, but the rank and file......I don't think so. Again a quiet majority.
    The 2018 Janus decision eliminated the required membership argument. Public sector employees cannot be obligated to join the union or pay dues. All that do are doing so on their own free will or cowardliness to say “no”.
     
    The 2018 Janus decision eliminated the required membership argument. Public sector employees cannot be obligated to join the union or pay dues. All that do are doing so on their own free will or cowardliness to say “no”.

    I am sure if they say no there is no pressure at all.

    My father in law worked for a "meat company", he was a union person. That "meat company" screwed the people at that plant over, and really screwed is the correct word. Company greased the union officials and the union said, sorry guys nothing we can do. They got fucked by the union and the company.

    Fast forward a few years and he is working for a "candy water" company. The "candy water" company is a union shop. KS is a right to work state. He told the union fuck off. He took non ending "good natured kidding around" till the day he retired. Personally he worked in the field alone most of the time, and he knew his shit. He was very good at what he did, the customers like him and the management liked the good employee that their customers liked and asked for. I think this is why a "full court press" was not done to him by "the guys". They valued someone that knew what they did and did not need to cover for, and would cover for them if need be.

    While you are correct and I think it is real easy to say, well just don't do the job. When your daughter is saying she is hungry what are you going to do.
     
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    I am sure if they say no there is no pressure at all.

    My father in law worked for a "meat company", he was a union person. That "meat company" screwed the people at that plant over, and really screwed is the correct word. Company greased the union officials and the union said, sorry guys nothing we can do. They got fucked by the union and the company.

    Fast forward a few years and he is working for a "candy water" company. The "candy water" company is a union shop. KS is a right to work state. He told the union fuck off. He took non ending "good natured kidding around" till the day he retired. Personally he worked in the field alone most of the time, and he knew his shit. He was very good at what he did, the customers like him and the management liked the good employee that their customers liked and asked for. I think this is why a "full court press" was not done to him by "the guys". They valued someone that knew what they did and did not need to cover for, and would cover for them if need be.

    While you are correct and I think it is real easy to say, well just don't do the job. When your daughter is saying she is hungry what are you going to do.
    Just another example where the right decision is commonly the harder path to follow, but that doesn’t mean it isn’t still the right decision.