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13.5" seems to be the generally accepted max LOP. Whether that is the law or not, I do not know.
I always thought that pistol braces were pretty much asexual, but admit that that's more of a general impression than the result of a scientifically valid survey.
I've never seen a length mentioned, I've only read/heard that rifles have stocks and pistols have braces. As long as it is wearing a brace and has a barrel under 16"s then it is a pistol. Also, the lower cannot have been classified as a rifle at any time in the past.
Actually you can make it a rifle and back to pistol configuration, as long as it was a pistol first.
If we say that ours identify as gay, then the govt won't ever try to ban them like bumpstocks, right?
The sad thing is it might actually work.
The sad thing is it might actually work.
NFA is gayer than Obama riding a unicorn.
In Utah you are not allowed to have a loaded long gun in a vehicle. Hence, a loaded SBR in your car would be illegal BUT a 9" 300bo AR Pistol would be LEGAL !
This brace is definitely gay if another dude is firing it for you.
It's only gay if the buffer tubes touch.
Can I take any lower and put a brace in it for it to be a pistol? I have a whole DTAC if stripped lowers setting here.
Yes. Legally a rifle already built from a stripped lower cannot be remade into a pistol, but one built initially into a pistol can go back and forth.
My understanding is only if it was transferred as just a receiver or pistol. I bought a BCM complete lower but it was transferred as a long gun so it is legally a rifle.
Sweet, but have you weighed it in this configuration? Might need to go on a diet, maybe get rid of some of the bullets.
The Ohio case from a few weeks ago will likely result in a Fiat by BATF regarding LOP. They kinda got embarrassed
https://www.maximdefense.com/product/maxim-cqb-pistol-pdw-brace-for-ar15/
These are definitely the worst ones to run on a pistol. I think they are made of club-harvested baby seals and unicorn tears.
These are definitely the worst ones to run on a pistol. I think they are made of club-harvested baby seals and unicorn tears.
As long as your receiver was not sold as a long gun, you can build a pistol with it.
Another notable rule is the 26" rule.
If you have a non rifle (meaning it does not have a shoulder stock) and is over 26" (not included in measurements is muzzle devices, and if it has a folding "brace" it is measured folded) with the non folding brace extended you now have a "firearm" (think of the Shockwave shotgun. 14" barrel but not a sbs) and not a pistol. So if you excited the legally measured length of 26" you can have a vertical grip.
But keep in mind if your state allows you to have a loaded pistol in a vehicle but not anything else you can't have this loaded because it's no longer a pistol in the eyes of the law. If you do exceed 26" and do not have a vertical grip you still have a pistol.
Also as I understand the law you can have a pistol with a barrel any leangth you want. It's still a pistol as long as it does not have a vertical front grip or a shoulder stock.
So for you guys who what a sbr type but choose to use a brace to avoid paperwork (or waiting for approval) keep that in mind.
This is my personal understanding and in no way legal advice......
If you have a non rifle (meaning it does not have a shoulder stock) and is over 26" (not included in measurements is muzzle devices, and if it has a folding "brace" it is measured folded) with the non folding brace extended you now have a "firearm" (think of the Shockwave shotgun. 14" barrel but not a sbs) and not a pistol. So if you excited the legally measured length of 26" you can have a vertical grip.
But keep in mind if your state allows you to have a loaded pistol in a vehicle but not anything else you can't have this loaded because it's no longer a pistol in the eyes of the law. If you do exceed 26" and do not have a vertical grip you still have a pistol.
Also as I understand the law you can have a pistol with a barrel any leangth you want. It's still a pistol as long as it does not have a vertical front grip or a shoulder stock.
So for you guys who what a sbr type but choose to use a brace to avoid paperwork (or waiting for approval) keep that in mind.
This is my personal understanding and in no way legal advice......
