WTF. Just comply, your odds at surviving will skyrocket.
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He had ecently been released from 16 years of wrongful incarceration. The other side is he was doing life because it was his third strike.
Yeah, his back was to us and I’m thinking the muzzle was pressing the flesh. Good shoot.
If he was that innocent he would have sat quietly in his truck, signed the motherfucking ticket, then either paid by mail, paid in person, or asked for a court date.
That's what normal, socially well adjusted people do.
The other 13% fuck around and find out.
Ok so get the fuck out of the car and do what he says.
Who the fuck thinks that you win a one on one with the government men? Deal with it in court later if it comes to that.
But being able to think that way requires both intellectual and emotional intelligence, something that the 13% seem to lack.
I don't think the officer should have ever got that close. Looked like the taser had minimal effect. If you're going to close with someone, you should have some degree of self defense skills. Riots to start shortly.....
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..... Like I said, zero intellectual and emotional intelligence. Can't think. Can't reason. Only can rage.
Let's not forget, if you're that fucking suspicious of "the man", don't give him a reason to fuck with you by speeding/driving like a dickhead.
Again, inability to think more than five seconds ahead.
I dont understand the purpose arguing your point to an officer in the heat of the moment. Majority of these shootings and or issues could easily be avoided by complying with the officers requests. If you feel you were wronged after that, do what every educated person does after the fact and sue the crap out of them to make your point.
Stupid games = stupid prizes...
Stupid games = stupid prizes...
Blanco, Tx. has one of those. 70 to 35mph in a quarter mile. It's a money maker.
The bottom line is this. Once the cops pull you over they own your ass. In other words you are already on the losing side. This cop was absolutely fired up to begin with. In this case the the best thing for anyone to do is comply. Live to fight another day, take it to court. I absolutely understand why Cure was ripped and lost it, but God damn his actions caused his own death.
Doing a 16 yr. stretch after being wrongly accused probably made him a rich ex con.
If he had acted civilized and hadn't acted a fool he could have enjoyed his settlement.
If he had acted civilized and hadn't acted a fool he could have enjoyed his settlement.
I'm disappointed no "Few Bad Apples" No Wade and his schtick. No BurtG and his Gestpo
Man I had money on this thread and y'all left me hangin.
Man I had money on this thread and y'all left me hangin.
The entire “just comply” argument is loaded. Every situation is different.
Maybe they'll let him keep the bullet and he can call it a win.
Here the corrupt courts sentence a man to seven months behind bars for posting an anti-Hillary meme but didn't do shit to some flat faced Democrat for posting the same anti-Trump meme.
Shoot him some more. Put his worthless body into the Brinks truck, and dump him in the next available river. (Wrap the carcass in plastic first). There is absolutely no need to bloody up the nice clean armored car.
The way things are going in this country, his family will net millions. I'm just basing that on the past several years.
So...... Fighting it out on the side of the road with an armed cop worked out so much better for him.
Look at it this way. He had a lot better luck than this poor bastard did.
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And you did not behave at all like this guy. You didn't even say what you wrote here, all big and tough. You kept your mouth shut and gave him your license and insurance and you signed the ticket. And you will pay it and deferred probation to keep it off your driving record and off the insurance.
When I got a big fat ticket in June (77 in a 55 zone, no construction, no schools,) I pulled over. Gave him my IDs (driver's license and LTC) and insurance. He asked if I had the weapon.
yes.
Where is it?
My left hip under my angler's shirt.
Okay, so don't make any moves to that weapon.
And I didn't. Kept my hands on the steering wheel at ALL times.
He had asked where I was going. I did not have to say anything but I did say I was going to see my wife in the skilled nursing facility where she stays.
He printed and I signed the ticket, which is no admission of guilt. No attitude. Done in 5 minutes. And we both went home in one piece with no more holes than we started with.
Later, I could contest it but I simply decided to pay it online and paid for the deferred probation (they used to call it deferred adjudication).
Does fighting with a cop ever end up with a good outcome for the civilian?
I get the angst and frustration, but did he expect the cop to back down, admit defeat, and let him drive off?
What did he expect, really?
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I get the angst and frustration, but did he expect the cop to back down, admit defeat, and let him drive off?
What did he expect, really?
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I was pulled over for speeding in excess of 100 and reckless driving one day many, many years ago. The CHP was pretty pissed off and I was calm and cool. I complied with everything asked and I'm still alive to talk about it. I was ordered out of the vehicle in a similar fashion. No taser pointed at me though. I was given my ticket after a verbal ass chewing and continued on with my day. He did threaten to have my car towed. Thankfully that didn't happen.
Later the same week I was sent a notice dropping the reckless part. I found out later they technically could have arrested me due to it being a 4 point violation ticket in CA. So I guess being polite and complying with a moving violation ordeal can be positive. Also I learned that day a CHP Crown Vic could only go 127mph...so when you are going 140+ they can't catch up and get pretty pissed.
Later the same week I was sent a notice dropping the reckless part. I found out later they technically could have arrested me due to it being a 4 point violation ticket in CA. So I guess being polite and complying with a moving violation ordeal can be positive. Also I learned that day a CHP Crown Vic could only go 127mph...so when you are going 140+ they can't catch up and get pretty pissed.
Do you equate fighting with a cop over a speeding infraction with a complete breakdown of my Constitutional rights?
If yes, in what ways do they compare? Please address the equivalence line by line. I’m looking for five answers, since you presented five scenarios.
If they are not equivalent scenarios, please explain why you phrased your response to ask me when I would fight.
Serious question.
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An asshole with a badge shot an asshole without a badge? Did I get that right?
Fucking tragic...
Fucking tragic...
You don't get a pass on being a dumb ass and resisting an arrest. You comply, live to go to court and if your rights were abused, sue. Now he's a shot dumb ass.
You mean like you did the other day when you got pulled over for doing 70 in a 65.....
So everyone is saying he was wrongly convicted. How was he exonerated? A technicality, all the witnesses died, soros d.a. acquitted him? I lost all sympathy for the guy when he started strangling the cop at which point I was thinking maybe he was wrongly acquitted.
100% of the people in this thread would comply, get their ticket, and move on with life.
But yet you complied your ass right on the train the other day didn't you?
Or did the cop kill your criminal ass for resisting and you're posting all this from the hereafter......
Back in my day, if you were wrongly incarcerated, and somehow found yourself on the good side of a jail cell, you formed a vigilant organization and sprayed the entire countryside with 223 projectiles. Now, this did entail regular run-ins with local law enforcement, but no one EVER got hurt. And the plan always came together.
Likely,
About a month ago I got a ticket for rolling a stop sign. When they run me they know where I work. Got the ticket anyway.
Some people are just dicks.....or cunts in the case of the person that nailed me.
Tell my Cpt, (policy is to report any dealings with LE outside of work) he laughed at me. Where did you get it, by the sewage treatment plant......there is nothing there, exactly. What a dick move.
Paid the ticket.
It is laughably easy to not get stopped for speeding. Hell, I drove through a pretty clever speed trap this morning, totally not expecting it, and didn’t get stopped. You wanna know why? Yeah, I’m white, but that’s not why. Ready? No, sit down. Ok, now? I wasn’t speeding. The majority of the population can reduce their interactions with law enforcement to zero by following this one simple trick…
(1) Warned
(2) Tazed
(3) Shot
Three Strikes man
Woulda been more awesomer if the cop at the end said:
"Who's the bitch NOW!"
(2) Tazed
(3) Shot
Three Strikes man
Woulda been more awesomer if the cop at the end said:
"Who's the bitch NOW!"
And they just opened the time vault and found said receipts?
What are you going to blame the cop for? The guy wasn't going to comply, no matter what. Do you expect the cop to just let him go? The cop didn't escalate anything.
1). The cop told him what to do... He wouldn't do it.
2). The cop yelled at him telling him what to do... He still wouldn't do it.
3). The cop Tased him... He still would not comply.
4). He then attacked the cop. So the cop shot his dumb ass.
As far as I'm concerned, the cop was more than tolerant of this idiot. All this moron had to do was put his hands on the car. But instead he escalated everything, until the cop put a bullet in his stupid, sorry ass. Serves him right. He's lucky that bullet didn't go into his empty head.
So the old when in Rome do as the Romans do mentality.
If all the other Romans jump off a cliff will you follow?
I doubt it
You're just booger lipped because you were the only Roman wanna be that got tagged that day.
You chose to be a criminal and suffered the consequences.
Suck it up buttercup.
"I'm not going fast officer. The speed limits are 70 years out of date."
Too young for The A-Team? Sit down junior, the adults are talking…
You mean the movie with liam neeson, bradley cooper and rampage jackson?Too young for The A-Team? Sit down junior, the adults are talking…
Yeah, I've seen it....
I didn’t avoid the question. I asked a clarifying question in order to address your point adequately.
You avoided my question, rather clumsily at that.
Give it another shot.
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One has to wonder what came up on the cop’s computer screen when he ran the plate.
Uh muh gerd. Can I get you a juice box?
It was a joke.
