Hunting & Fishing please help age, id like to harvest this week
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Re: please help age, id like to harvest this week
Based on this
http://www.1atexasdeerhunting.com/bodyagingdeer.htm
I'd say 4 1/2. May be as young as 3 1/2 but he is not 5 1/2
Based on this
http://www.1atexasdeerhunting.com/bodyagingdeer.htm
I'd say 4 1/2. May be as young as 3 1/2 but he is not 5 1/2
Re: please help age, id like to harvest this week
3.5 years. if he is some where you can get him through till next year you would have a absolute pig. That being said i would find it realy realy hard not to pull the trigger on that one.
3.5 years. if he is some where you can get him through till next year you would have a absolute pig. That being said i would find it realy realy hard not to pull the trigger on that one.
Re: please help age, id like to harvest this week
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 50calcruiser</div><div class="ubbcode-body">shoot first, count teeth later... </div></div>
that is the wrong way to hunt imo. if he is a 2.5 yr old deer, think how he will be in 2 more years? however, if hes 4.5 or 5.5, he probably wont get much better than this. its called QDM- quality deer management. manage for age rather than racks.
this has also been the richest spring/summer at our place in about 10 yrs so its not likely he will get this nutrition next year either.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Kurt</div><div class="ubbcode-body">3.5 years. if he is some where you can get him through till next year you would have a absolute pig. That being said i would find it realy realy hard not to pull the trigger on that one. </div></div>
given the high pressure around us i doubt he will make it through the season if the neighbors see him. this is also fairly close to our property line and they have a blind like 200 yds on the other side of the fence...
i was thinking 4.5
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 50calcruiser</div><div class="ubbcode-body">shoot first, count teeth later... </div></div>
that is the wrong way to hunt imo. if he is a 2.5 yr old deer, think how he will be in 2 more years? however, if hes 4.5 or 5.5, he probably wont get much better than this. its called QDM- quality deer management. manage for age rather than racks.
this has also been the richest spring/summer at our place in about 10 yrs so its not likely he will get this nutrition next year either.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Kurt</div><div class="ubbcode-body">3.5 years. if he is some where you can get him through till next year you would have a absolute pig. That being said i would find it realy realy hard not to pull the trigger on that one. </div></div>
given the high pressure around us i doubt he will make it through the season if the neighbors see him. this is also fairly close to our property line and they have a blind like 200 yds on the other side of the fence...
i was thinking 4.5
Re: please help age, id like to harvest this week
I'd say 6.5
For sure 5.5 years old.
56" points
20" spread
28" mass
42" beams
He's around 146" deer
Shoot him Jack!
I'd say 6.5
For sure 5.5 years old.
56" points
20" spread
28" mass
42" beams
He's around 146" deer
Shoot him Jack!
Re: please help age, id like to harvest this week
i want too adam!!!
i was thinking 22 or 23" spread. look at this pic (rack width compared to 55 gal feeder)
i want too adam!!!
i was thinking 22 or 23" spread. look at this pic (rack width compared to 55 gal feeder)
Re: please help age, id like to harvest this week
3.5 years old. Nice buck though. I'd shoot just for the drop tine
3.5 years old. Nice buck though. I'd shoot just for the drop tine
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ya drops are genetic right? arent they just a year to year mutation, not something passed on when the buck breads like his spread will be?
ya drops are genetic right? arent they just a year to year mutation, not something passed on when the buck breads like his spread will be?
Re: please help age, id like to harvest this week
ive posted this thread on 3 other forums and most ppl are saying 4.5-6.5 and that hes most likely in his peak or wont get much better. this is on very small acreage and there pretty high hunting pressure all around us so i doubt hell make it through the season anyways. this is close to the propertyu line and theres a blind a couple hundred yards across the fence... i think ill take him given the chance.
just a question, but drop tines arent genetic right? arent they just a year to year mutation, not something thats passed on when he breeds like spread is?
ive posted this thread on 3 other forums and most ppl are saying 4.5-6.5 and that hes most likely in his peak or wont get much better. this is on very small acreage and there pretty high hunting pressure all around us so i doubt hell make it through the season anyways. this is close to the propertyu line and theres a blind a couple hundred yards across the fence... i think ill take him given the chance.
just a question, but drop tines arent genetic right? arent they just a year to year mutation, not something thats passed on when he breeds like spread is?
Re: please help age, id like to harvest this week
imo he is 3.5. if you are hunting a high pressure area id say shoot him. if it was a low pressure area id say see what happens next year
imo he is 3.5. if you are hunting a high pressure area id say shoot him. if it was a low pressure area id say see what happens next year
Re: please help age, id like to harvest this week
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jackh</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
just a question, but drop tines arent genetic right? arent they just a year to year mutation, not something thats passed on when he breeds like spread is? </div></div>
drop tines can be genetic or from injury. from the looks of your they are genetic have you seen and other non typical deer in the area
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jackh</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
just a question, but drop tines arent genetic right? arent they just a year to year mutation, not something thats passed on when he breeds like spread is? </div></div>
drop tines can be genetic or from injury. from the looks of your they are genetic have you seen and other non typical deer in the area
Re: please help age, id like to harvest this week
I also say 4.5 years old. He has no sag to his back, despite great spread and points, his rack lacks mass and his legs look too long. Once you get to 5.5 and beyond the legs start to look short and stubby. It would be hard to hold off on a buck like this but he could be truly stellar in another year.
I also say 4.5 years old. He has no sag to his back, despite great spread and points, his rack lacks mass and his legs look too long. Once you get to 5.5 and beyond the legs start to look short and stubby. It would be hard to hold off on a buck like this but he could be truly stellar in another year.
Re: please help age, id like to harvest this week
Based on the way his neck and chest run together, depth of body (which gives him the short legged appearance), and head size and triangulation, I would say he's at least 5.5. Really think he could be 6.5 looking at his head. Jackh and I, hunt about 30 miles from each other. Here are some pictures of different aged deer off my place, check them out and see if you think I'm off on my aging.
http://www.snipershide.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=1461022#Post1461022
Jack, I hope I'm not sabotaging your thread, I'm just trying to make sure I'm not off and giving you bad advice!
Based on the way his neck and chest run together, depth of body (which gives him the short legged appearance), and head size and triangulation, I would say he's at least 5.5. Really think he could be 6.5 looking at his head. Jackh and I, hunt about 30 miles from each other. Here are some pictures of different aged deer off my place, check them out and see if you think I'm off on my aging.
http://www.snipershide.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=1461022#Post1461022
Jack, I hope I'm not sabotaging your thread, I'm just trying to make sure I'm not off and giving you bad advice!
Re: please help age, id like to harvest this week
4.5 years old. Left him go one more year if you are certain he will be there next year. If you are not sure take him now.
4.5 years old. Left him go one more year if you are certain he will be there next year. If you are not sure take him now.
Re: please help age, id like to harvest this week
There is no pressure, he is not going to harvest it. That is his pet, look, he got it fenced in, he feeds it probably twice a day, and he takes pictures of it to show off... that is what we do with our pets, right???
Smile Jack... hope you have a sense of humor
There is no pressure, he is not going to harvest it. That is his pet, look, he got it fenced in, he feeds it probably twice a day, and he takes pictures of it to show off... that is what we do with our pets, right???
Smile Jack... hope you have a sense of humor
Re: please help age, id like to harvest this week
With the high presure area i would shoot it. Still say he is 3.5. young deer no sway in his back and a little body and long legs.
With the high presure area i would shoot it. Still say he is 3.5. young deer no sway in his back and a little body and long legs.
Re: please help age, id like to harvest this week
I think he's older than 3.5 and I've had a lot of ppl sat 5.5 and 6.5. I'm taking him given the chance. This place is small and there's high pressure around us, I doubt he'll be here next year if I don't take him... I have a perfect 10 that's young on camera I'll be keeping my eye on the next couple years
oh and fyi, the fence is to keep livestock out, this is a working ranch. One side is open though because there's nothing in this pasture except deer
I think he's older than 3.5 and I've had a lot of ppl sat 5.5 and 6.5. I'm taking him given the chance. This place is small and there's high pressure around us, I doubt he'll be here next year if I don't take him... I have a perfect 10 that's young on camera I'll be keeping my eye on the next couple years
oh and fyi, the fence is to keep livestock out, this is a working ranch. One side is open though because there's nothing in this pasture except deer
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First off; is this a Texas deer, secondly what part of Texas? My first thoughts are if this is a central Texas deer he appears to be a pretty big body animal and is pretty dang thick through the shoulders. I don't think there is any question that he is a mature deer and I would stick him in the 4.5 - 6.5 range. I have been hunting Nebraska the past few years and it is a whole different deal trying to age with the huge body size deer there. At first glance if that was a northern deer you might think he was 2.5 but if he is in an area where a mature deer is 180+/- pounds then it looks like you have a shooter...
First off; is this a Texas deer, secondly what part of Texas? My first thoughts are if this is a central Texas deer he appears to be a pretty big body animal and is pretty dang thick through the shoulders. I don't think there is any question that he is a mature deer and I would stick him in the 4.5 - 6.5 range. I have been hunting Nebraska the past few years and it is a whole different deal trying to age with the huge body size deer there. At first glance if that was a northern deer you might think he was 2.5 but if he is in an area where a mature deer is 180+/- pounds then it looks like you have a shooter...
Re: please help age, id like to harvest this week
Err in favor of the ranch.
Let them walk until they are either obviously very mature or obviously a cull. He is not obviously either, so I vote to let him go another couple of years, especially if he is the best in the area.
See if you can get the neighbors on the right page to shoot the weak ones and let the best ones walk. In the long run, everyone will be better off.
Err in favor of the ranch.
Let them walk until they are either obviously very mature or obviously a cull. He is not obviously either, so I vote to let him go another couple of years, especially if he is the best in the area.
See if you can get the neighbors on the right page to shoot the weak ones and let the best ones walk. In the long run, everyone will be better off.
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