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poor man setup

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22 Trainers:

Marlin 25N & 925, home-brew trigger jobs, Millet Angle-Loc Rings, Tasco 2.5-10x Varmint series scopes. Total investment per stick (have 2) --> $180

Centerfire "big bore"

Mauser k98, Adams and Bennet 1:10 barrel 26" long. Chambered in 30-06. Timney trigger, Fajen stock, Osprey Int'l Scope, Leupold Rings, stock mauser bottom metal and safety. Total investment including reamer --> $700 (not including dies, brass, etc.) All machining and refinishing work done by either myself or my dad.

Centerfire "small bore"

Savage Mod 12 FV in 204 Ruger. Switch barrel setup for 6mm-223, throated for 95gr Amax. Simmons 6.5-2-x 44 glass, Leupy mounts, Choate Sniper stock. Factory 204 Ruger Barrel, Shilen 1:8 twist "unfinished blank" for 6-223, PTG Reamer and throating reamer, brass, dies, etc. total investment --> $975, all machining work done by me.

I can't find the links to the pics right now.
 
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Well, I have to make some assumptions, as not even a chosen application is specified.

I find that I don't have a special need for a supernice trigger, and that I can usually get a sporter weight barrel to perform for me with a little bit of tweaking, like adding a resilient pressure pad at the end of the barrel channel with a fairly serious amount of upward pressure. I also like the .30-'06 chambering because it's capable without being marginal, readily available pretty much everywhere, and adequate for flatly anything shootable on the North American Continent.

My rifle is a post '64 M70 lightweight sporter .30'06.

If I had to duplicate it today, I'd simply buy a Stevens 200 .30-'06 and keep the mods to what I mentioned above. Rifle list $399 (I'd be very surprised if you couldn't find it retailing somewhere on special for maybe $100 less), Tasco VAR624X42M scope, maybe $80, and WallyWorld Weaver two piece bases and medium rings guessing around $50-$60 tops. $550 maybe altogether before discounts?

It might benefit from handloading as pressure pads can have a tendency to alter harmonics, and most factory sporters seem to be configured/tuned to like commercial loads.

As an everything-gone-to-hell firearm, I'd grab that one first.

Greg
 
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My rifle is a "Poor-Man's" Setup. Tax Included on the Rifle.

Rifle: Savage Accustock/Accutrigger .270 Winchester $600

Bases: Burris Xtreme Tactical 2 Piece Base $18

Rings: Burris Signature Zee 1" Rings Med. Matte $36

Optics: Nikon Buckmaster 6-18x40 Mildot $299

Bipod: Used 6-13 Harris leg-notch, NON-swivel $40

$600
$299
$36
$18
$40
+______
$993

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Rem 700 ADL 30-06 $380 came with scope, mounts and rings
Bushnell 10x tactical $190
Stockade tactical stock $375
Neoprene Sling $15
Stud swivels $12
Rock Creek Bipod $30

Shoots handloads under an inch. Im at around a grand. I still want to change out the rings and put in a 1 piece base, and get an adjustable cheek piece.
 
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savage 10 with scope mount and rings $600
B&C tacticl stock-$220
swift 8x-32x-$250
harris bipod 6-9 with-$90

a little over $1100 in it,get CDI DBM system installed now
then going to have it bedded
 
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Actually, some good stuff listed. I think it is a great topic for a thread but the idea of being a poor man is relative. It seems to me that the more I make the faster it goes out and in larger numbers. I fear that I will eventually realize that some of the money I put into guns and ammo should have been directed into barren land somewhere off the main paths where I can shoot with my friends. Anyone else having to make greater and greater coordinations to hunt and/or shoot?

Don't get me wrong, I have a level, despite not shooting that much on a cant; I have several inclination indicators, despite realizing that shooting off a grassy knoll does not equate to high angle; 6 different kinds of tripods and mounts; a safe to secure the combos to my gun safes; pouches to store extra pouches, the list goes on...and I wake up some mornings wondering if I might be missing something because I do not have a special claw or rubber booties attached to all my firearms.

Deep in thought now...considering all the doodads I have accumulated...every member of my family has 14 flashlights...I wonder if I did not somewhere lose track of the most basic motto of the infantry...

<span style="font-weight: bold">Simpli Fy! </span>
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ironhq</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> lets see the price break down on this one 467 </div></div>
Notice i said about a 1000$
savage 10=500
w.o.4.5-14x50=295
burris signature rings=39
warne 20moa base=80
jb weaponary bolt handle and knob=39
generic versa pod(from c.t.d.)=29
accu-shot mono-pod=80(bought off hide member)
karsten cheek piece 40
sling(wal-mart)13
tasco laserlite 800=50(bought off hide member)
homade log book 0
bushy 7x binocs 50
condor drag bag 80
grand total 1245$ pretty damn close to a grand...Oh yeah and the rifle shoots really good too.......467
 
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thats pretty impressive actually...precision on a budget..i thought i was doing well to stay around 2k...some of my buddies/family have thrown down 5-7k(ouch)...time will tell but im not sure theirs are any more precise than mine(or yours!).
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ironhq</div><div class="ubbcode-body">thats pretty impressive actually...precision on a budget..i thought i was doing well to stay around 2k...some of my buddies/family have thrown down 5-7k(ouch)...time will tell but im not sure theirs are any more precise than mine(or yours!). </div></div>
Agreed it actually took me quite some time to put this together.I shoped aroud a lot.A lot of the stuff is used some is new.I really am quite fortunate to get by as cheap as i did.
 
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More pics.Thats the idea of this thread.......I guess i should have worded it diffrently.Instead of poormans setup lets say.......budget minded setup...
 
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Savage 10FP = $599
JB Weaponry bolt and knob = $40
Choate Tactical Stock = $170
Bushnell Elite 4200 = $520
EGW base = $40
TPS rings = $70
Harris bipods = $85
Pod lock = $10
BlackHawk cheek pad = $30

Total = $1564


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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ironhq</div><div class="ubbcode-body">img]http://www.snipershide.com/forum/gallery/27/medium/2567.jpg[/img]

remy sps T 308 560
b & c medalist a5 400
burris xtr lows 60
base 60
nikon 6-24 500
harris bi pod 90

1670
good looking rig.
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Used Ruger M77 MKII ca. 1980's .257 Roberts all factory $300. Bed it, torque down all screws. Front screw to 90in lbs. Burris Fullfied 3-9x40 scope with millet rings $100, Timney Trigger $100. Shoots 87gr Sierra or 100gr Sierra SP's sub MOA to 250yds with factory pencil barrel and handloads. Killed a lot of animals and paper/steel with it. Never tested beyond 250 because I keep spending money on other rifles, stocks, triggers, optics. LOL.

 
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Savage 10 $525
B&C Stock $250
Menace 4-14 $340
Burris rings $30
EGW base $30
Harris Bi-pod $60

Pic on the way.

$1235
 
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CDNN in Abilene had FNH PBR barreled actions, fluted barrel 20 or 24 inch, scope rail, trigger just not the stock for $399. We put in Houge overmold stock pillar type $100. I have 4 a friend has 10 for his training facility. All shot 1/2 at 100 and we both have shot about 2 inch at 300 yes. No special loads not even torque in stock. See threads if they still have some go for it. The magazines are a loss but CDI a vendor here makes bottom metal for about $200.+ use ACIS mags.
CDNN had some SPR FN actions only for $349. if you want to build
 
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I guess it really depends on what is "poor man" definition. Here it appears that $1000 is in poor man's realm. If I was on AR15.com "poor man" set up would more like a $500 AR, or $300 AK.

I spent $1200 for this complete set up, like new condition as previous owner only shot it once: Remington 700P .308 with 26" LTR type fluted barrel, AICS 1.0, Nikon Tactical 2.5-10x44 scope, Badger base, ARMS rings and Harris bipod. It's the most I've ever paid for bolt gun, but it definitely was a deal that I couldn't refuse, and put me in the poor house. Looks like it qualifies as poor man's set up too.

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: long range fire</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I guess it really depends on what is "poor man" definition. Here it appears that $1000 is in poor man's realm. If I was on AR15.com "poor man" set up would more like a $500 AR, or $300 AK.

I spent $1200 for this complete set up, like new condition as previous owner only shot it once: Remington 700P .308 with 26" LTR type fluted barrel, AICS 1.0, Nikon Tactical 2.5-10x44 scope, Badger base, ARMS rings and Harris bipod. It's the most I've ever paid for bolt gun, but it definitely was a deal that I couldn't refuse, and put me in the poor house. Looks like it qualifies as poor man's set up too.

+1,lol......Yeah seems like 1000$ is pretty much poor man territory considering i have seen some rigs upwards of 4 or 5k.Hell some guys use optics that cost twice as much as my whole setup.......

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308 Project Phase 1 Completed

Rem 700 LTR 308 new $838.
Farrell 0 MOA Base $89.00
Burris Signature 30mm Zee Rings $54.00
Timney Trigger w/Safety Nickel #512 $135.00
Seekins SRS Rail 2" H-S hole Spacing $45.00
Atlas Bipod B-10 $219.99 (on order)
Falcon Menace 10x42mm (used) $285.00

Total to Date, including optics: $1665.99

Phase II Underway

McMillan HTG Stock Campfire Camo (on-order & 20-26 weeks to pay for it) $419.00
Bushnell 2.5-16x42mm 65-2164T $619.00 (on layaway)
Seekins SRS Rail 3" hole spacing for McMillan $45.00
AZ Precision Tactical Bolt Handle $60.
Seekins DBM/Floorplate $299.00
Spare Mags Three $179.97

Less future sales:
Sell HS Precision stock $250.
Sell Mark X Pro trigger $30.
Sell Falcon 10x42mm $250.


Grand Total: $3288.95
Less future Sold items: $ 530.00
Actual Planned Outlay: $2758.95

I don't know if this is a "poor man" setup, but I'll be "poorer" when I'm done.....
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Bob



 
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Or my 223 Project

Rem 700 XCR .223 Compact $1164.00
Farrell 20MOA Base $89.00
Bushnell 6-24x50mm $569.00
Leupold QRW Rings $ 55.00

Planned additions:
Seekins SRS Rail $45.00
AZ Precision Tactical Bolt Handle $60.
Seekins DBM/Floorplate $299.99
Spare Mags three $179.97

Total Planned Outlay: $2461.96 w/optics



 
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Springfield M1903 in 30-06.
Redfield 4x9x32 wide angle from the 70's.

Shoots just fine - probably as well or better than my high dollar Rem 700 -

Marines in WW1 and WW2 were known to shoot 1000 yards with the iron sights alone..
 
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Savage 10 precision carbine $721
No name bipod bought off ar15 $45
Sling from Cabalas $19
EGW 0 MOA base $40
Warne QD rings $49
Nikon 6X18X40 mildot $299
Krylon paint $4
Total $1177

7 rounds at 100 during break in

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peewee...

started life as a worn stevens pawn shop 7mm08: $200

swapped the 7mm08 parts for 223 parts,
made a few bucks: 00

hated the freebore in the bbl, cut a new
chamber w a PTG zero freebore reamer(first time):165

burris somethin or another bases : 15
walmart cheapo steel rings : 15
paint : 10
steel, epoxy and other crap to try to stiffin
stock, sorta worked : 10
bushnell 3200 10x : bout $200

beauty is, she shoots the cheapo bulk fmjs right at 1moa...nice and cheap to shoot

total...i dunno hehe
 
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fatman...

began as a large shank 300wsm, i swapped an crap argentine mauser for

swapped the wsm small parts, sold the bbl

mcgowen 26" bull bbl: $290
hs pecision stock: $350
badger base/rings: $350
supersniper 10x: $300

harris bipod bought way back, still got the bag w the $25
price tag<geezer>

other asst stuff, checkpad etc

took her to badlands, and shoot her LR as often as im able. loves scenars and varget
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: long range fire</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I guess it really depends on what is "poor man" definition. Here it appears that $1000 is in poor man's realm. If I was on AR15.com "poor man" set up would more like a $500 AR, or $300 AK.

I spent $1200 for this complete set up, like new condition as previous owner only shot it once: Remington 700P .308 with 26" LTR type fluted barrel, AICS 1.0, Nikon Tactical 2.5-10x44 scope, Badger base, ARMS rings and Harris bipod. It's the most I've ever paid for bolt gun, but it definitely was a deal that I couldn't refuse, and put me in the poor house. Looks like it qualifies as poor man's set up too.

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</div></div> you got one hell of a deal if that complete setup only cost you 1200...thats no poor mans setup!
 
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Remington PSS,McMillan stock,Badger base,Seekins Rings, Zeiss Conquest 3.5x10x50, Harris Bipod
 
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Seems there is not much interest in rifles that dont run $3000+ here.

I have done a post about this one in the past but here's a simple version.

Rifle is a Rem 700 SPS V____________$360 out the door at Cabela's
Warne rings and Bases ____________$30
Leupold Mk4 ____________$625

Pic of the rifle.....

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These are shot's 4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11 and 12 ever fired from the rifle. in order 168gr,175gr and 155gr...all SMK handloads.
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I really havent got down to working up a load for this thing yet, been shooting loads I have for my FN SPR but I can say this is one great shooting rifle and it's bone stock, the cheap palstic stock hasnt even been removed from the action.

Not going to bore you with cherry picking groups like I have seen numerous times. I am not a great shooter but I challange everyone here to take their substandard cheap ecconomy rifles and shoot the practical tactical dot target like I did. They are a seires of 1/2" dots and fired at 100yds.It doesnt cost but 20-25 rds of ammo and some of your time.

I was doing great until the POI shifted on #15.

**Note To Self** Maybe I need to bed it in a $800 McMillan.


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those are 3/4 inch dots, not 1/2 inch, by the way..
 
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Heres mine...

600.00 remington vsf came with a hogue sps stock sold it for 50.00
VLS stock takeoff from another rifle. say 125.00
Scope is a burris full field 125.00 used with burris XTR RINGS.
Two peice steel base used.25.00
So thats 875.00 -50.00=825.00
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: BoomerTG1</div><div class="ubbcode-body">those are 3/4 inch dots, not 1/2 inch, by the way.. </div></div>

I am glad you are so observant as to know the size of the dots on <span style="text-decoration: underline">MY </span> target. Here are 2 more pics of "said target"

I have only been reading calipers for a <span style="text-decoration: line-through">couple of</span> few decades, but.... well you'll get the picture
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..............carry on
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Howa 1500 .300 win mag (used) 320
Bushnell Elite 3200 5x15x 50 300
Burris Signature Z Rings 30
TAB Gear Sling (non Elite) 70



In for 720 so far. Need an aftermarket stock. ;>) Expect to be in for 1000 total before I am done.
 
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Looks about 17/32" dots to me......
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My starter rig:
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That was thousands and thousands of dollars ago however. This is a bad place to hang if you don't like the taste of Ramen.
 
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My poor mans rig when was the first new rifle I bought myself. REM 710 for $300 with scope and rings a bit after I got married. The stories of the wives killing husbands for spending money scared me. She didn't mind at all even though $300 was months of extra $ then. I still love my wife
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Before that was a cheap savage 7mmrem mag my dad bought me when I was about 15.
It has been a huge change since then and a room full of stuff. I think my reloading bench cost more than fist rifle and I built it from scratch.
 
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This is my poor mans setup, 1932 Tula Arsenal Mosin Nagant in 7.62mmx54R. Has done a number on many Germans and probably other Russians too! (Not necessarily my rifle, but the cartridge itself.)

$79.99 from JG Sales.
$49.99 Scope mount kit from ATI(includes turn down bolt handle)
$100.99 Tasco World Class 4-16x40 scope.

Total- $328.98

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Used Rem 700 PSS
Buckmark 3.5-14x mildot scope
Used 20 moa base
used bipod
new stockpack.
Used Rifle Basix trigger

Got less than 900 in this setup!

Sub .5 inch at 100 off the bench and solid .75 at 200 prone. Haven't had a chance to group it farther than that.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: sobrbiker883</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> This is a bad place to hang if you don't like the taste of Ramen. </div></div>

Laughed out loud when I read that.
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Testify Brother!
 
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STEVENS 300 (basically a savage 110) $327.00
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barska swat scope $99.00 (was a clearance item)should've bought 2
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harris bipod $90.00
rifle basics trigger $129.00
egw 20 moa base $45.00
jp howitzer muzzlebrake $140.00 (very optional)

= $690 (Without brake, but will spend that much on the scope full price, so $830)

(stays sub moa to 300yards, moa to 550 yards)
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cost of having the $2000.00 gun shooting next to me trying to keep up? - priceless!
 
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Remington 700 BDL VS with Swift 6-18x (No longer on gun) $325.00
Super Sniper 10 x 42 $300.00
Harris 9-13 Bipods $70.00
H&S Precision Trigger Guard w Detach 10rd Mag $360.00
Badger Base & Rings $300.00

Gun shoots consistent 5 Rd groups of .3 @ 100 yds
Will include pics @ later date.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: el gordo2</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> Seems there is not much interest in rifles that dont run $3000+ here.

I have done a post about this one in the past but here's a simple version.

Rifle is a Rem 700 SPS V____________$360 out the door at Cabela's
Warne rings and Bases ____________$30
Leupold Mk4 ____________$625

Pic of the rifle.....

IMG_9870.jpg


These are shot's 4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11 and 12 ever fired from the rifle. in order 168gr,175gr and 155gr...all SMK handloads.
IMG_9950.jpg


I really havent got down to working up a load for this thing yet, been shooting loads I have for my FN SPR but I can say this is one great shooting rifle and it's bone stock, the cheap palstic stock hasnt even been removed from the action.

Not going to bore you with cherry picking groups like I have seen numerous times. I am not a great shooter but I challange everyone here to take their substandard cheap ecconomy rifles and shoot the practical tactical dot target like I did. They are a seires of 1/2" dots and fired at 100yds.It doesnt cost but 20-25 rds of ammo and some of your time.

I was doing great until the POI shifted on #15.

<span style="font-weight: bold">**Note To Self** Maybe I need to bed it in a $800 McMillan.</span>
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Remeber, these are budget guns, HAHA. Put a pre bedded H&S Precision on it.$300.00. Itll shoot great!!!
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: el gordo2</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> Seems there is not much interest in rifles that dont run $3000+ here.
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Don't be so sure - I am interested but don't have one yet. When I do, I'll post photos.

I suspect a lot of folks are interested
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: DustyJacket</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: el gordo2</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> Seems there is not much interest in rifles that dont run $3000+ here.
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Don't be so sure - I am interested but don't have one yet. When I do, I'll post photos.

I suspect a lot of folks are interested </div></div>



Everyone loves a 3000$ setup but most of us cant afford one.Thats the reason i started this thread so all of us that has a 1k setup can show off a little.
Remember it doesnt have to cost a arm and a leg to shoot good.
 
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compressed air 'tater gun I'm guessing.

Or paintball grenade launcher.
 
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Rem 700 LA - Free (inherited)
Krieger barrel/lug/chambering/smithing - 590
B&C Medalist stock - Free (paid for by sale of previous scope)
Wiiliams BM - Free (paid for by sale of previous scope)
Harris/Pod Lock - 100
Seekins rings/base - 119
Vortex Viper - 467
AZ Prec knob - 0 (long story
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Best group to date was today; .310 for 5 shots at 100 yds. Looking forward to some distance soon!