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Precision Reloading on a Dillon 650 Need Help with issue of bumping shoulder.

sasquatch98226

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So I am getting into reloading for PRS shooting. Have been reloading for .223,.308, and hand gun calibers for 15+ years on a Dillon 650. So here is the situation:

Load is a 6.5 x 47 Lapua with 130GR Berger AR Hybrid Bullet

Forster Full Length Sizer on Station 1
Empty Station 2
Neck Mandrel Station 3
Forster Micrometer Seater Station 4

I have loaded the first batch of 300 rounds on new virgin 6.5x47 Lapua brand brass, and have shot about 250 rounds of said loaded ammo. I am ready to load the once fired brass, and need to bump the shoulder back 2-thousands on the fire formed brass. I have measured a selection of brass (no primers), and see it measures 1.445" (once fired), while virgin unfired brass measures 1.444". Now comes the weird part. BTW this is measured on the shoulder using the Hornady D400 insert.

I push the ram to the top position, and screw down the FL sizing die down until it touches the shell plate. I lower the ram, and then turn the die 1/4 turn until I feel the ram start to "cam-over". I set the lock ring so it will not move. I sized a case and there was no change in measurement. I turned the die another 1/4 turn and sized the same case now down .001 from the original measurement. I figure I am getting closer, and turn the die another 1/4. The handle will not travel all the way down, and the ram will not "cam-over" as it just sticks at the top. I measure the case, and still at .001 bump, or 1.444 overall.

I am thinking that the shell plate on the ram, is "too thick", and I can not adjust the die down far enough to bump the shoulder the desired amount. Does that make sense? Should I buy the Dillon "single stage conversion" kit? Should I just get a rock-chucker or big boss II?

Any help would be appreciated.

Matt
 
You are likely maxed on your shoulder setback with the Dillon setup. If you are cammed over, then more cam over isn’t going to help. You need more body going into the die