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Putting together reloading setup

Vedak

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Hey guys,

So I've reloaded twice now, and decided I wanted to piece together my own system. These are the things I have so far, what else would you say I need?
I'll be reloading mainly 40S&W for my Glock and 308win for my Savage 10 FCP-K. I plan to pick up a 454 Casull, 338LM, 44Mag, 45ACP, 25-06, and 30-378WM down the road. Also have an AR build that's slow in progress.
So Far everything feels complete, but I wasn't sure if I was missing anything essential

RCBS Rock Chucker Single Stage (Borrowed from a friend until I get the Forster Co-Ax)
Forster Nat'l Match Bullet Seater
Forster FL Sizer
Forster Neck Sizer
Forster Stuck Case Remover
RCBS Chargemaster
MTM Loading Trays
Satern Funnel
Forster Original Case Trimmer
Dillon Flip Tray
Forster Priming Tool
Harbor Freight Digital Calipers
Lyman 308win Case Gauge
Dillon 40S&W Case Gauge
RCBS Deburring Tool
LEE Primer Pocket Cleaner
Imperial Sizing Wax
LEE Carbide 4 pc Dies for 40S&W
RCBS Flashole Deburring tool
Frankford Arsenal Tumbling kit w/ Walnut and Corn media
Frankford Arsenal Bullet puller
Barnes Reloading Manual
Nosler Reloading Manual
Lyman Reloading Manual
Sierra Reloading Manual
 
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Bullet comparator
Headspace gauge
Thumbler Tumbler
Steel Pins
Extra pulleys for the Thumbler Tumbler
Power adapter for the Forster case trimmer if there is one
Hornady lock-n-load press conversion bushing
Hornady lock-n-load bushings
RCBS or Lyman brass cleaner - a big bucket with a sifter built into it for separating brass from steel pins
Annealing kit from Hornady (its only $50) - Unless you want to pay over $400 for a Giraud and wait
K&M neck turner
 
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Bullet comparator
Headspace gauge
Thumbler Tumbler
Steel Pins
Extra pulleys for the Thumbler Tumbler
Power adapter for the Forster case trimmer if there is one
Hornady lock-n-load press conversion bushing
Hornady lock-n-load bushings
RCBS or Lyman brass cleaner - a big bucket with a sifter built into it for separating brass from steel pins
Annealing kit from Hornady (its only $50) - Unless you want to pay over $400 for a Giraud and wait
K&M neck turner
I will look into the Thumbler. I see a lot of people recommending them.
At the moment I have the frankford arsenal tumbler kit with the sifting bucket. Corn and Walnut media.

Don't think I'll need the Hornady press bushings, because once I get the Co-Ax they can't be used.

Good tip on the annealing kit. I was wondering about them.

Is the K&M Neck turner better than the forster attachments for the case trimmer?
 
Best neck turner in my opinion is the 21st century shooting neck turning tool kit, no doubt.
If you buy the Lathe setup complete it's a lot more user friendly and ergonomic then the handheld K&M, witch can be a bitch if you turn a lot of rounds at the same time.
Everything is self aligning, and at least in theory should give a more concentric turning process. Another nice thing about it is the caliber specific carbide cutters, they come ground with a angle matching you're case shoulder so that touching into the shoulder that's usually done is done correctly, and concentric from case/caliber to case/caliber.
Also they're turning arbors are nice and will ensure proper neck tension from case to case.
The only downside to this system is the price at 275$ it's not cheap.
But it's a lightyear in front of it's competitors.

Accurateshooter.com, and German Salazar's blog has some good information on it.
And the manufacturer has some good videos too, so you can actually see what you buy.

17-338 Cal. Neck Turning Lathe

If you're buying a neck turning tool, do also buy you're self a Expander die and expander mandrels to make the necks concentric before turning.
If you buy a 21st century turner do also buy they're expander die, and mandrels to fit.
Likewise if you choose K&M turner buy they're expanders for a perfect fit.

Other things to buy:

Wall thickness Micrometer.
Hoover meplat trimmer kit.
Hoover or Whidden bullet pointing system.

Giraud case trimmer, i see you have the tools already so i assume you won't buy it, the concentricity is just as good or better then any other product for this, and saves you huge amounts of time during case prep. Case trimming and outside/inside chamfer done in one operation, and just takes a few seconds for each case.
And goodbye to all the hand turning, or drill chuck turning once and for all.
In my opinion, certainly one of the best investments i've ever made in reloading equipment. Especially when taking into account all the time i save using it.

You also miss one a few critical components in my opinion.
A good, consistent powder scale, do not trust you're Chargemaster to always be accurate, they also tend to like some time to warm up before throwing accurate charges. So do always check at least the first few loads you're Chargemaster throws.
Accurateshooter.com has some good advice on tuning the Chargemaster.
Wether you go with a simple beam balance scale, or a 1500$ labratory scale is just up to you're economy and how perfectionist you are about you're reloading.
I use a chargemaster to underthrow the charge, and use a highly accurate labratory scale, and a Omega 2 speed powder trickler to fine tune the load, down to weight of a single powder kernel to ensure my ammunition is as concentric as possible.
It does take a lot of time, compared to just running a Chargemaster or two though, and some people would probably say it's a waste of time.
But each to they're own.

Finally you will certainly want a OAL gauge for you're rifle reloading, to make the reloads fit the chamber of you're rifle.
 
Definitely get a headspace bushing gauge or rcbs precision mic
Primer pocket uniformer

I wouldn't worry about a neck turning tool. You probably won't notice the difference in your groups. If you have the time and extra money then give it a try. In a rifle with a factory chamber and if you use decent brass I don't think it's worth it.

A chronograph is a helpful tool