Radically new rifle chassis systems at SHOT

One-Eyed Jack

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Radically new rifle chassis systems are coming in 2010 and will be available to peons such as ourselves.

Accuracy International had their new "X" model chassis at the show. The model displayed was a folder, there may not be a fixed model and I forgot to ask. Price will be comparable to the current AICS and AI is hoping to have the initial deliveries at the end of 2010. In addition to a minimalist "skeletal" approach to the overall design (the same is true of the Ashbury and Remington designs), there is a forend tube that surrounds the barrel with many rows of slotted holes for attaching accessory rails, as well as an adjustable cheekpiece. I didn't ask about fitting different triggers and recoil lugs, but I hope they kept them in mind during the design phase. Because of the skeletal design, the ability to machine larger cavities to fit a barreled action may be much more limited than in the AICS. It is not a thumbhole design, but much like an AR with a pistol grip. The AI "X" pistol grip is fatter and more rounded than the usual AR, and you can change the back strap on the grip to alter the size slightly.

Eventually the AICS, as well as the current AIAW rifles, will be phased out in favor of the new "X" series of equipment.

Ashbury has designed a PSR rifle candidate using a chassis approach, I think it's called "SABRE." By far this chassis seems to be the most sophisticated and modular. You can choose different buttstocks, for example, with either a flip-down monopod or a butthook. The buttpad adjusts up and down using a release button, the LOP is adjustable with a thumbwheel, and there is an adjustable cheekpiece. The somewhat rectangular (not round) forend tube is made of carbon-fiber to save weight, to conduct heat radiated by the barrel, and acts as a mirage band since it encloses the barrel. There are embedded nuts to attach side rails in various position, but not as many positions as the AI. There is a single long rail (~20" or so) that mounts on top for a day scope and NV equipment (with cants available from 0 MOA to 60MOA).

The SABRE has an AR grip that can be adjusted to one of three angles. You can use any number of AR grips on the market. The internal space for the trigger group was engineered for a variety of triggers, so there will be no problem with non-Remington triggers. The recoil lug space looked sufficiently wide for a Badger lug, but I don't know whether it is deep enough.

There are SABREs for Remington-like actions (including the Surgeon), the Sako TRG-42, and (IIRC) a Savage 308 (details unrecalled). It's somewhat heavier than an AICS, possibly weighing an extra pound. The SABRE is seems pretty sophisticated and well engineered, but that's just one on the wall. All I can say is that I want one! The main negative to the Ashbury is that the full-up rifle was heavy, at least 18 pounds would be my guess. I should add that one of the SABREs was for a lefthanded action, although everything else about the rifle was apparently ambidextrous.

Apparently GAP built the Ashbury rifles at the show, and George is pretty familiar with the SABRE. The Ashbury engineer told me they are hoping the SABRE will be available at the end of April and the price point will start at $1100. I will be very surprised if that turns out to be the actual price as there is obviously a lot of engineering and expensive machining and materials in this chassis system.

The third chassis I looked at was the Remington MSR(?). It seemed lighter than the AI "X" chassis and simpler in design than the AI and Ashbury. I wish I had pix of all three chassis, which would help demonstrate their differences and jog my memory. The MSR will house a Remington barreled action and trigger group, but it could have a problem with a larger trigger such as a Jewel. There was no room to machine a larger volume for a different trigger group. I don't recall anything about the recoil lug space. While the LOP of the MSR I held was too small for me (it adjusts to at least 14" according to the spec sheet I read), the MSR felt good in my hands. Like the AI "X" chassis, there was a tubular forend with mounting holes for numerous rails, and there was an AR style pistol grip. Overall it seemed cruder than either the AI or Ashbury designs and not as well engineered or finished. Remington is trying to have the final design available and for sale in 2010 according to one of their people at the show. No price was available.



 
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Just wait to see what appears at the IWA 2010 eh !!
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Good to hear Pete.

I think I know what is coming, I won't put you on the spot and ask for an early "leak" on the specs.

I am currious though if you are willing to let us know what platforms you will be able to accomodate.

Thanks
 
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Pete, is there a folder on the way? I might be interested of that instead of the A5 I got at your place.

/ Johan
 
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I am really liking the RACS. I got to handle the AX chassis and wasn't too fond of it. But then again, I really am not a big fan of plastic either. I am sure all these chassis systems will work, just that from a design standpoint, the RACS just looks awesome.
 
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We've got a folder and a telescopic addition for the existing Barnard 07 chassis system. We will shortly also have an adaptor for the folder that will take any AR type buttstock. ( but that might not be ready for the IWA)

We've got a brand new chassis system that takes the same rear ends as above,( folder, telescopic and AR) but fits Remington 700 short actions ( and our Avenger II) and Ive a mind to make a version for the Tikka T3, Howa 1500, Sako TRG, Mauser 98, Savage (but which one) and a few others, but a long action and .338lap version will come first.

We've a non folder chassis system which is a progression of our RCS that is already available. Its the same basic chassis, with a couple of upgrades but with different side pannels. (which will mean much better availability) In addition to the current Tikka T3 short and the Howa 1500 versions there will also now be a Tikka T3 long, Left handed and a Remington short right handed. To follow is a Remington short left hand, then a Remington Long and Left handed long. There will be a folding version available later this year, as well as Sako TRG, Savage (again, but which one).
If i hadn't spent most of the last month in GB due to my Fathers ill health we'be be a lot further on, but priorities had to be set and thats probably enough new stuff in one go any how.

best regards Pete
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: One-Eyed Jack</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Eventually the AICS, as well as the current AIAW rifles, will be phased out in favor of the new "X" series of equipment.</div></div>

One of the best rifles ever built to be phased out...
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: terryg</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Hate it. </div></div>
wich one?....

I handled the Ashbury stock @ the Surgeon booth, I dont remember it having the top mono rail...it felt pretty nice!
 
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I've been very reluctant to even pick up and hold one of these new all metal stocks...I was born on a McM A1 and still run them exclusively...however, I went over to see Preston and he handed me that rifle with the Ashbury stock and it was nice. It wasn't as heavy as I figured it would be.

It was very adjustable which was nice if you had many shooters using it during it's life as a stock. I am by no means a convert as it will take something epic to get me to switch out my McM's

...It was a nice stock though if that's your thing.

Respectfully,

--KJ