Railroad Strike Imminent

[BridgerMT]

Here comes the next crisis 1 week to go till 115,000 railroad workers go on strike..
Last one lasted only 2 days in 92' because the Government stepped in, I don't think Brandon will do what Bush did ...

What is your take on this one?

 

[7.62willdo]

Yeah what are the chances of the POTUS stepping n on a legal strike?
I know let’s ask the air traffic controllers………..

 

[Jefe's Dope]

My buddy who works for the RR said it's gonna happen. But expects congress to force them back.

 

[MadDuner]

If they don’t get forced back - it’s because they want further supply chain issues to help slow the economy.

 

[Hobo Hilton]

This situation has been brewing for a long time. Train crews have been stretched thin. When they reach the max number of hours they can work they they are transported off the train and it just sits until the next crew is available.
The cure is better wages, working conditions, medical benefits and pension........ Not rocket science.
The Government forcing them to work will not go over well.

Link is from December 09, 2021

Congress, Unions Can Cure Rail Worker Shortage - Railway Age

Railroads, including Amtrak, are hiring, but applicants are scarce. The Washington Post reports Amtrak is short 1,500 workers, and may be forced to eliminate some service, trim some daily long-distance trains to three times weekly, and delay inauguration of new routes. Already, Amtrak is...

www.railwayage.com

 

[AngryKoala]

This situation has been brewing for a long time. Train crews have been stretched thin. When they reach the max number of hours they can work they they are transported off the train and it just sits until the next crew is available.
The cure is better wages, working conditions, medical benefits and pension........ Not rocket science.
The Government forcing them to work will not go over well.

Link is from December 09, 2021

Congress, Unions Can Cure Rail Worker Shortage - Railway Age

Railroads, including Amtrak, are hiring, but applicants are scarce. The Washington Post reports Amtrak is short 1,500 workers, and may be forced to eliminate some service, trim some daily long-distance trains to three times weekly, and delay inauguration of new routes. Already, Amtrak is...

www.railwayage.com

Article states 100k ("tops") in compensation (is that straight salary?). How much should a railworker be paid because that doesn't seem very low?

 

[Bender]

It will go on for days. This is all planned. Your government hates you. Your freedom is the problem. You are the carbon they want to reduce. This is WW III

 

[Bullfrog08]

Article states 100k ("tops") in compensation (is that straight salary?). How much should a railworker be paid because that doesn't seem very low.

You think 100k for a family of four is a good wage today? Maybe in 1999.

 

[Earnhardt]

Article states 100k ("tops") in compensation (is that straight salary?). How much should a railworker be paid because that doesn't seem very low.

Have you ever done the work of a rail worker?…

If not, sit down and be quiet…

 

[ggmanning]

I don't know a lot of people that make 100K..........you can't live in a city very well at that much but you can certainly do pretty well on 100K a year in rural America. Hell I know a bunch of folks that don't have a combined 100k income and do fine. I don't have enough knowledge to comment on railway wages but in my business I pay what it takes to keep good workers working.....a simple but effective strategy

 

[Hippy_Steve]

Mmm, sweet delicious doomer porn. Gotta keep up the anxiety at a low simmer for next week’s 2 minutes hate.

 

[AngryKoala]

Have you ever done the work of a rail worker?…

If not, sit down and be quiet…

I was asking a question moron. Reading comprehension bitch, get some.

 

[AngryKoala]

You think 100k for a family of four is a good wage today? Maybe in 1999.

It's more than I bring in annually.

 

[chevy_man]

I don't know a lot of people that make 100K..........you can't live in a city very well at that much but you can certainly do pretty well on 100K a year in rural America. Hell I know a bunch of folks that don't have a combined 100k income and do fine. I don't have enough knowledge to comment on railway wages but in my business I pay what it takes to keep good workers working.....a simple but effective strategy

I live in the middle of nowhere.

Cost of living here is high, wife and I bring in around 100k. It doesn't go all that far.

Mortgage, taxes, fuel, taxes, cars, taxes...

Kids. I love them but damn are they expensive.


I wouldn't have the ability to take the kids out to experience activities like shooting if I had a large mortgage. I paid less than 200k for my house. One of my coworkers just bought a townhouse for over $500k as it was the cheapest thing he could find. His mortgage is over $30k/year. He's house poor and his wife makes over 100k herself.

Rural Midwest or southern is way different than rural northern or northwestern.
I know a lot of people that don't make $50k, but they also can't afford to do anything but go to work and eat and sleep. Leaving town is a stressful event to budget fuel even.

 

[Jmccracken1214]

It's more than I bring in annually.

I make half that and have a wife and 3 kids, own my home in a nice neighborhood and 2 decent vehicles. We can’t live like royalty but we do decent and have a savings

 

[AngryKoala]

I make half that and have a wife and 3 kids, own my home in a nice neighborhood and 2 decent vehicles. We can’t live like royalty but we do decent and have a savings

I have a wife and two kids and we are fine as well. We also don't live in the city which would be difficult on that salary.

 

[Jethro3898]

$100k per year being sufficient is certainly a geographical point.
$100k goes a pretty long way where I’m from……and doesn’t go anywhere in San Francisco or other “high rent” locales.

 

[Hobo Hilton]

I did not "Fact check" link.
Long ago, when I moved into the work force, people going to work for the city, county and state were drawing a lower wage than those of us going to work in private industry... Again, just a one man survey.
Today the situation has inverted. So, factor all that in.
Would a young person rather go to work at a Government job or a railroad job?
When a railroad job offers more "perks" for the new hire then people will go to work for the railroad and all other jobs in the private / industrial / commercial industries.
Pay the government workers less, stop the "Free Money" printing presses and put America back to work.
Got to get past the stolen elections first.

Railroad Engineer Salary | Salary.com

The average Railroad Engineer salary in the United States is $95,376 as of December 27, 2022, but the salary range typically falls between $85,894 and $106,411.

www.salary.com

Benefits | RRB.Gov

rrb.gov

 

[kindabitey]

This situation has been brewing for a long time. Train crews have been stretched thin. When they reach the max number of hours they can work they they are transported off the train and it just sits until the next crew is available.
The cure is better wages, working conditions, medical benefits and pension........ Not rocket science.
The Government forcing them to work will not go over well.

Link is from December 09, 2021

Congress, Unions Can Cure Rail Worker Shortage - Railway Age

Railroads, including Amtrak, are hiring, but applicants are scarce. The Washington Post reports Amtrak is short 1,500 workers, and may be forced to eliminate some service, trim some daily long-distance trains to three times weekly, and delay inauguration of new routes. Already, Amtrak is...

www.railwayage.com

I don't think getting retirees to come back to work at any RR isn't going to be as easy as they think. You can go to any rail yard in the country, pick any random person, and they can tell you years/ months/ weeks/ days/ hours until retirement. They can't wait to get out.
FWIW, I was a Carman with NSRR from '88- '99

 

[Dunraven]

Have you ever done the work of a rail worker?…

If not, sit down and be quiet…

Isn't this essentially unskilled labor? Not rocket science at any rate. Is it now based on 'need'?

 

[NoDopes]

Only 17% of Americans earn over 100K

Don't forget though, a lot of those government jobs have early, cushy pensions for life.

 

[DuneBoer]

I don't think getting retirees to come back to work at any RR isn't going to be as easy as they think. You can go to any rail yard in the country, pick any random person, and they can tell you years/ months/ weeks/ days/ hours until retirement. They can't wait to get out.
FWIW, I was a Carman with NSRR from '88- '99

Sounds like when you talk to cops...Counting the days to retire.

 

[JR_PRO77]

Buy more ammo…

 

[Hobo Hilton]

Isn't this essentially unskilled labor? Not rocket science at any rate. Is it now based on 'need'?

It takes skilled people to keep this equipment operating. Just one more industry that is being stifled by Government regulations.

Amazing Videos of Railroad Tracks Laid by Automated Equipment - Industry Tap

New automated laying of railroad tracks is an example of the amazing power of automated technology which saves time and money but replaces human workers.

www.industrytap.com

UP plans major locomotive rebuild program (updated) - Trains

Wabtec will modernize 600 locomotives over a three-year period for Union Pacific in a deal valued at more than $1 billion, the largest such program in railroading history. The Associated Press first reported the agreement on Tuesday evening. The program will include 525 AC4400 and AC6000...

www.trains.com

Railroads | US Department of Transportation

www.transportation.gov

 

[Hobo Hilton]

Sounds like when you talk to cops...Counting the days to retire.

The only thing worse is hearing "I'll probably work til I die on the job".........

 

[Earnhardt]

Isn't this essentially unskilled labor? Not rocket science at any rate. Is it now based on 'need'?

This is a joke, right?
You do realize it is 2022, correct?
It is no longer the late 1800's where Chinese immigrants are laying tracks, and driving spikes...

This is all about maintenance and operations....

Have you paid any attention to the multi-million dollar machinery they are operating lately?

Whether it is an engineer or track maintenance...

I'm pretty sure we can do without white collar workers for a while

Rail workers, we can not do without...

And no, I'm not a rail worker. I'm in the construction trades

 

[Hobo Hilton]

Buy more ammo…

Some will freeze to death or starve before running out of ammo... Plan ahead.

 

[308pirate]

The only thing worse is hearing "I'll probably work til I die on the job".........

That looks like a Japanese salaryman

 

[308pirate]

And no, I'm not a rail worker.

And you're lecturing others about whether they should have an opinion about what rail workers make or should make?

LOL

 

[Earnhardt]

And you're lecturing others about whether they should have an opinion about what rail workers make or should make?

LOL

But having several friends who are, gives me a little insight…

 

[JMGlasgow]

I live in Cheyenne, a very large UP railroad hub. It isn't skilled labor to work on a railroad. The machines they use are no more complicated than any other piece of heavy equipment. You also don't have to be a genius to get a CDL and drive the railroad trucks.

 

[Bigfatcock]

Make being able to do a budget great again.

 

[armorpl8chikn]

You think 100k for a family of four is a good wage today? Maybe in 1999.

What do you think of raising the national minimum wage?

 

[BoilerUP]

I know that SH members tend to hate unions...BUT:

FUPM

 

[EddieNFL]

I know that SH members tend to hate unions...BUT:

FUPM

Just the parasites that run them.

 

[346ci]

We have a busy track near work, watching that crew/machines replace the rr ties was amazing. I'd do that all day long for $100k.

 

[AngryKoala]

We have a busy track near work, watching that crew/machines replace the rr ties was amazing. I'd do that all day long for $100k.

Apparently that is considered chump change. Maybe I should tell my boss I'm striking Monday....lol

 

[Bigfatcock]

There are women who eat ass for less than 100k a year. Perspective.

 

[db2000]

Well this thread derailed quickly

 

[NoDopes]

Is it like the road construction crews where 6 guys watch one guy doing something?

 

[Hobo Hilton]

Who here can pass DOT Physical, HASMAT cert, TWIC background check, Capable of handling oil, explosives, passengers and could be away from home for extended periods?
Attend a RR orientation and go to work?

 

[346ci]

Apparently that is considered chump change. Maybe I should tell my boss I'm striking Monday....lol

No kidding, some would starve with my salary.

 

[EddieNFL]

Who here can pass DOT Physical, HASMAT cert, TWIC background check, Capable of handling oil, explosives, passengers and could be away from home for extended periods?
Attend a RR orientation and go to work?

Good to go on almost everything. No HASMAT, but I could certify HAZMAT for air. People? I'm out.

 

[hkmp5s]

Good news everybody, the class 1's are hiring. You're going to work about 65 hours a week on call mostly at night and have a Monday and maybe a Thursday off. Weekends you work, kid's birthday guess what, your working. Holidays, what the fuck is a holiday? You have 2 to 3 hours to show up when called to work, no sick leave. They're constantly trying to fire you. All for about$75,000 to $90,000 a year. You'll make good money and get to see someone else raise your kids. Everyone is invited to hire out, come on down.

 

[Bigfatcock]

Good news everybody, the class 1's are hiring. You're going to work about 65 hours a week on call mostly at night and have a Monday and maybe a Thursday off. Weekends you work, kid's birthday guess what, your working. Holidays, what the fuck is a holiday? You have 2 to 3 hours to show up when called to work, no sick leave. They're constantly trying to fire you. All for about$75,000 to $90,000 a year. You'll make good money and get to see someone else raise your kids. Everyone is invited to hire out, come on down.

Boo hoo hoo. PFC’s do that shit for $25,000 per year. Plus they clean the shitters, get bitched at non stop, and could possibly die.

 

[hkmp5s]

Boo hoo hoo. PFC’s do that shit for $25,000 per year. Plus they clean the shitters, get bitched at non stop, and could possibly die.

Let them know the class 1 railroads are hiring.

 

[Bigfatcock]

Let them know the class 1 railroads are hiring.

They are busy fucking fat women and buying used cars at 24% interest, but I’ll let them know.

 

[hkmp5s]

They are busy fucking fat women and buying used cars at 24% interest, but I’ll let them know.

Careers at BNSF | BNSF jobs

Inclusion. Development. Opportunity.This is BNSF. See the jobs at BNSF with all category Opportunitys.

jobs.bnsf.com

 

[Bigfatcock]

Careers at BNSF | BNSF jobs

Inclusion. Development. Opportunity.This is BNSF. See the jobs at BNSF with all category Opportunitys.

jobs.bnsf.com

I’ll pass it along, but I’m pretty sure their plans are to become cops or work for their uncle’s construction company making $1,000,000 per year with no training.

 

[Maggot]

Calling @Redmanss