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REAL DIFFERENCE BETWEEN 5.56 + .223 ROUNDS

Tactical30

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Externally the .223 Rem. and the 5.56 NATO are identical but military 5.56 NATO brass has slightly thicker walls.
5.56 NATO ammunition is also loaded to a higher pressure than .223 Rem. Why I dont know. Everybody that shoots ARs knows AR-type rifles with a 5.56 NATO or .223 Wylde chambers can fire 5.56 NATO and .223 Rem. ammunition interchangeably with no pressure problems. Firing 5.56 NATO ammo in a rifle with .223 Rem. chamber can lead to extraction problems and blown primers.
The real difference is in the chambers or the throats are cut in the respective rifles. The free-bore in the 5.56 NATO is
.0303 inch longer and .0025 inch larger in diameter than that of a .223 Rem. Also, the angle at which the rifling begins-the point from were the lands start to where they establish a bore diameter of .219 inch-is at a 2-degree shallower taper in a
5.56 NATO rifle. These were incorperated into military rifles to improve reliability in extremely dirty combat conditions, where stopping to clean a gun may not be an option.
For example, after firing several hundered rounds of some ammo brands thru an AR chambered for the .223 Rem. , the sealant on the ammo can build up in the throat and prevent a round from fully chambering. The longer throat of a 5.56 NATO chamber prevents this.
The 5.56 NATO military cartridge that is nothing more than a hot-loaded,or +P version, of the .223 Rem. Some manufactures offer a "hybrid" chambering called .223 Wylde, which is a compromise of throat dimensions between the 5,56 NATO and
the .223 Rem. Some people think that the longer throat in the
5.56 NATO chamber might not provide th accuracy you would see in a rifle chambered for .223 Rem or .223 Wylde. I dont know I never had the chance to test them side by side but if there is a difference it cant be that big. Also, if you are hand loading for the 5.56 NATO it makes no difference when following the .223 Rem load data- from a handloading standpoint,they are the same cartridge.
There are some facts im sure I missed but I think I covered the main ones.
 
Re: REAL DIFFERENCE BETWEEN 5.56 + .223 ROUNDS

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: longrange30</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Also, if you are hand loading for the 5.56 NATO it makes no difference when following the .223 Rem load data- from a handloading standpoint,they are the same cartridge.</div></div>
Great info. The 5.56 is set at 62K PSI, and the 223 Rem is 55K PSI. So, when handloading for a 5.56 AR, you can push the bullet faster due to the higher pressure rating. Externally they are the same, but internally is where the handloader can utilize the higher pressure 5.56 round.
 
Re: REAL DIFFERENCE BETWEEN 5.56 + .223 ROUNDS

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ChadTRG42</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Great info. The 5.56 is set at 62K PSI, and the 223 Rem is 55K PSI. So, when handloading for a 5.56 AR, you can push the bullet faster due to the higher pressure rating. Externally they are the same, but internally is where the handloader can utilize the higher pressure 5.56 round. </div></div>

You can't be serious.

When was the last time you saw a BCG for a .223 AR as opposed to a 5.56AR? An AR is an AR. The only real difference between the 5.56 and .223 chambers is the leade.

How exactly would a handloader "utilize the higher pressure 5.56 round" ? Did you know that the LC brass is thinner (lighter) than Lapua or Winchester .223 brass?
 
Re: REAL DIFFERENCE BETWEEN 5.56 + .223 ROUNDS

Its like every other post im on I see a some smartass or dickhead answer from Sig685. If your going to leave a dick answer, dont leave one at all. Nobody cares or wants to hear your stupidass comments.
 
Re: REAL DIFFERENCE BETWEEN 5.56 + .223 ROUNDS

I'm sure glad I retired from LE as a LE Sniper before I found out I couldnt use mil ball in my Rem Varment 223, Else I wouldnt have shoot so many.

Its ok now, I shot up my supple of 5.56 at PDs after I retired. But what to heck, what does a 30 year old rifle know.
 
Re: REAL DIFFERENCE BETWEEN 5.56 + .223 ROUNDS

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: longrange30</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> Firing 5.56 NATO ammo in a rifle with .223 Rem. chamber can lead to extraction problems and blown primers.
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I just started loading for AR15 recently. LC brass and RCBS full length sizer trimmed to proper length. I immediately started have extraction issues that I didn't have with factory .223. Changed to a Wolf extractor spring and problem solved, but why?