I am building a Rem. 700 in .243win. I have some parts already but still need a few more. 1 part I need is a recoil lug. How do I know what size to get?
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I'm quite impressed with the recoil lugs made by Holland. Very consistant!!
I'm quite impressed with the recoil lugs made by Holland. Very consistant!!
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There are some great ones out there, including Holland. Many will claim you do not need a thick, aftermarket lug for nearly all applications.
Now if you want to pin it or want a tapered lug it might be worth while going aftermarket.
Then again, as Americans we sometimes just want the best! So tell BHO where to go and GO FOR IT!
There are some great ones out there, including Holland. Many will claim you do not need a thick, aftermarket lug for nearly all applications.
Now if you want to pin it or want a tapered lug it might be worth while going aftermarket.
Then again, as Americans we sometimes just want the best! So tell BHO where to go and GO FOR IT!
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ptg makes a nice, parallel lug. i wouldn't worry about getting anything thicker than the factory lug for a .243. i want to say the ptg lug was around .188" and should be fine.
ptg makes a nice, parallel lug. i wouldn't worry about getting anything thicker than the factory lug for a .243. i want to say the ptg lug was around .188" and should be fine.
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Get a .250" lug from PTG
Get a .250" lug from PTG
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I got the .250 lug from PTG. Price was great, shipping was fast, and lug was nice.
I got the .250 lug from PTG. Price was great, shipping was fast, and lug was nice.
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Keep in mind that the thickness is not what gives the strenght but rather the hardness. I would take a factory thickness properly hardened lug over a .250 or larger un-hardened any day of the week. Now a thick hardened one is the cat's meow (Sounds like a porn line)
Keep in mind that the thickness is not what gives the strenght but rather the hardness. I would take a factory thickness properly hardened lug over a .250 or larger un-hardened any day of the week. Now a thick hardened one is the cat's meow (Sounds like a porn line)
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The PTG chrome moly lugs (carbon steel) are hardened and double ground.
The PTG chrome moly lugs (carbon steel) are hardened and double ground.
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I wasn't that PTG's were not hardened but some of the brands need work to be worth putting on a rifle
I wasn't that PTG's were not hardened but some of the brands need work to be worth putting on a rifle
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: USMC7980</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Keep in mind that the thickness is not what gives the strenght but rather the hardness. I would take a factory thickness properly hardened lug over a .250 or larger un-hardened any day of the week. Now a thick hardened one is the cat's meow (Sounds like a porn line) </div></div>
You have that backwards.
Modulus of Elasticity gives it the deflection "strength" that you're talking about. You want a STIFF lug, not a HARD lug. The E of the material does not change with the heat treat. Non-treated mild 1060 is within 5% of the stiffness of AISI 4340 300M.
You're looking for bending and shear stiffness, not allowable stress level, the thicker one gives you a stiffer lug because of how the moment of inertia works. Given equivalent I's there's virtually no difference between 1060 and 4340 stiffness.
A 3/16" thick vs. 1/4" thick lug gives a 237% increase in I and therefore 237% increase in stiffness.
If you want to talk about total lug package being improved you need a hard lug in the area that it slips over the tenon threads for bearing stress resistance. If you REALLY want the "cat's meow" for a lug, use something like 86xx bearing steel, carburize the 86xx with a thick case so that you have the surface hardness to counteract the bearing stresses and the ductile core with extra thickness so that it's not going to crack from carbon embrittlement.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: USMC7980</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Keep in mind that the thickness is not what gives the strenght but rather the hardness. I would take a factory thickness properly hardened lug over a .250 or larger un-hardened any day of the week. Now a thick hardened one is the cat's meow (Sounds like a porn line) </div></div>
You have that backwards.
Modulus of Elasticity gives it the deflection "strength" that you're talking about. You want a STIFF lug, not a HARD lug. The E of the material does not change with the heat treat. Non-treated mild 1060 is within 5% of the stiffness of AISI 4340 300M.
You're looking for bending and shear stiffness, not allowable stress level, the thicker one gives you a stiffer lug because of how the moment of inertia works. Given equivalent I's there's virtually no difference between 1060 and 4340 stiffness.
A 3/16" thick vs. 1/4" thick lug gives a 237% increase in I and therefore 237% increase in stiffness.
If you want to talk about total lug package being improved you need a hard lug in the area that it slips over the tenon threads for bearing stress resistance. If you REALLY want the "cat's meow" for a lug, use something like 86xx bearing steel, carburize the 86xx with a thick case so that you have the surface hardness to counteract the bearing stresses and the ductile core with extra thickness so that it's not going to crack from carbon embrittlement.
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well go and get technical about and make me out to be a crotchpheaseant
well go and get technical about and make me out to be a crotchpheaseant
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: USMC7980</div><div class="ubbcode-body">well go and get technical about and make me out to be a crotchpheaseant </div></div>
LOL sorry about that
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: USMC7980</div><div class="ubbcode-body">well go and get technical about and make me out to be a crotchpheaseant </div></div>
LOL sorry about that
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A good smith can work magic w/ the factory Remington lug.
A good smith can work magic w/ the factory Remington lug.
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How does the Tubb lug compare to the PTG?
How does the Tubb lug compare to the PTG?
