Been trying all the ones above everyday, twice a day. Also tryed salida, hyatt, classic firearms ,palmetto. midsouth. Need bullets more than anything E.I. 150 gr .277 BT/AB... 200gr .358 BT/AB..180gr BT/AB 300 win mag (.308) 117/120gr BT/AB . 257 Guess Im to fussy but they are the most accurate in my rifles. I give up on IMR 4350/4831/4064. 4 months till deer/bear season so there is still hope. LOL