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Range Report Remington 700 LR .300WM first and second range trip.

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Dec 9, 2006
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I had the opportunity to go through the Remington armorer’s course this past summer and received an employee pricing on one Remington firearm. About a year ago I built, with some help, a Remington 700 in .308 using a Shien barrel. So the idea of getting another 700 seemed like a good idea. The only question was “what caliber’? I didn’t see the point of another .308 and I have yet to be bitten by the 6.5 bug. I ended up picking the M700 LR in .300 Winchester Magnum. Price out the door from my dealer was about $520.

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I came into this knowing full well that Remington’s quality has been hit and miss and many complaining about the lack of accuracy with their rifles. I decided that the initial cost and the ability to do any necessary work myself could make this an interesting project.
Visually the rifle looked great, fit and finish was great. The bolt was very smooth and solid feeling. The X-Mark Pro trigger was a little heavy at a just over 4 pounds. Adjustment of the X-Mark trigger is accomplished by turning the adjustment screw counter-clockwise until the desired pull is achieved. However, the adjustment screw on mine was already sticking above the trigger face. The instructions advised turning the adjustment screw half a turn at a time until you get the trigger pull you’re looking for. In my case, after turning the screw out the first half turn the screw fell out. This left me with a trigger pull of 3 pounds 9 ounces. The trigger was very crisp and I felt it was something I could work with.

I topped the rifle off with a Bushnell HDMR 3.5-21X50 using Weaver 34mm low rings and a Leupold Picatinny 20 degree mount. I then attached a Blackhawk bipod I had laying around and went off to the range.

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Shooting off the bipod with a rear bag on a concrete deck I worked the round into the center of the middle of the target and then shot the first five shot group of almost three inches! I was shooting Hornady TAP with a 178gr ELD bullet. I will admit that I’m not the best rifle shooter. And I was having a hard time getting in a comfortable prone position. I decide not to waste any more ammo and come back another day in another way.

The following week I was back at the range. This time on the bench with a rest and a variety of ammo. The first group of Hornady TAP was 2.24 inches. Well, that’s not very encouraging. The only bright spot of the day was some ABM ammo using Burgers bullets. Both the 185 and 230gr rounds came in at .95 inches. Other ammo tried was Hornady’s 195gr match at 1.34 inches, Federal’s GMM 190gr at 1.45 inches, Black Hills 190gr at 2.1 inches, and Hornady’s Superformance at a little over 6 inches.

My plain now it re-crown the barrel and see if that helps. I don’t think it will make much difference but it’s an easy thing to try without pulling the action out of the stock. I’m going to thread the barrel and put a break on it anyway, but I’m just curious if this will show any improvement.

The second range session wasn’t any better than the first. I decided to do three shot groups instead of my normal five in order to conserve ammo. Even with three shot groups the only two that shot well was both of the ABM loadings with .86 with the 185gr and .45 with the 230gr loadings. The only five shot group I did was the Hornady TAP and it came in at 2.42 inches. All of the three shot groups did better than the five shot groups as one would expect. I didn’t shoot the Superformance considering how poorly it did last time.

What’s interesting about the ABM ammo is the overall length is longer than the others at 3.62 for the 230gr and 3.54 for the 185gr. The rest came in under the SAAMI max of 3.34. I think this may show some insight into some of the issues regarding accuracy.

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So the re-crowing did work, as I expected. Next will be to pull the action out of the stock and see if I can find anything wrong. I’m also going to thread the barrel and put a comp on it and adjust the trigger. I would like to knock another pound off it. If I can’t I may look at getting a new one. I also may make a chamber cast and see how far the lead is. I’m also going to shoot the Hornady TAP and 195gr match until I see some improvement with them before trying the others, I have a larger supply of them.
 
yeah 3+# is a little heavy for real precision work, at least for me. and the 230abm (now berger i think) are lasers in my bil's 300 winmag.

surprised or shocked or whatever that a brand new barrel needed re-crowning.
 
I would replace the trigger. I've used Timney with good results.

Does that rifle come in a stock with a bedding block?
 
I have a Jewell Benchrest trigger, I could put in, but at 3 ounces it seems a little light for this rifle so I may have to look for something else.

Yes, the stock has a full aluminum bedding block.
 
I haven’t started loading for this rifle yet but I did have some 30 cal bullets for my .308 and decided to see how far out I would need to load them to touch the rifling. It seems to be pretty far. The Burgers 185gr Hybrid Target had to be seated out to 3.755 and the 173gr pulled M118 FMJ bullets at 3.614. This is the tip to the case head, I don’t have a comparator. As you can see they don’t have a lot left for the case neck to hold on to.

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The Hornady 178 TAP and ABM 185 on the left for comparison.
 
I pulled the action out of the stock and the screws were not properly torqued down, they broke free with very little effort. There were also two plastic shims between the stock and bottom metal.


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Once out of the stock I put a Jewell trigger in and set it at 2.5 pounds. I put the stock back on without the plastic shims and torqued it down to 45-inch pounds. I also have some 220gr SMK’s that should be here on Wednesday. I intend on loading them long and see if that helps. Until then I l have some pulled M118 173gr FMJ match bullets I’m going to load up and see what happens. Hopefully, I can get to the range in the next few days if the weather’s not too bad.
 
Your issue in my opinion is not clearly the rifle. As you admitted, your not the best shooter. Without having a command of the fundamentals any rifle will preform poorly. Especially a 300WM with out a break! I would stop the ammo experiments till you mitigate the shooter variable. It’s not a strike against your man hood that a light factory 300WM is pushing you around. It dose that to all of us. That’s why most of us build them closer to 20lbs than 10lbs. Just my thoughts. Hope this helps.
 
You bring up a good point. I have a friend that's a very good rifle shooter, I should have him shoot it and see how it shoots for him.
 
Mine with scope and bipod comes in at just under twelve and a half pounds.

I loaded up some Sierra 220gr and waited for a chance to go to the range. In the meantime, I became impatient and decided to skim bed the action and put on an AAC comp. I was finally able to get to the range on Saturday to see how they shot.

It was cold, windy, the sun was in my face, and the target was in the shade. I'm coming up with my excuses. Let's just say I wasn't doing my best shooting. I did five shot groups with four different loads using H1000. Starting at 74.5gr and moving up to 76gr at half grain increments. Group sizes were 1.06, 1.31, 1.16, and .92. I certainly think I wasn't shooting as well as the bullets could do. I'm going to load up another 20 or so and hopefully, my next range session goes better.
 
Picked up some Hornady 225gr BTHP at Cabela's and loaded 20 rounds using some RL26. All four of the five shot groups shot under an inch. They were all loaded 10 thousands off the lands. Unfortunately, they are too long for the magazine so I'm going to have to seat them to mag length and see how they do. I also shot two groups with the Sierra 220gr loaded with H1000 at 30 thousands off and they shot much the same as last time. The factory Hornady loads I shot did about as well as they did the other times, no real change.
 
Turns out this Rem rifle really likes the Hornady 225 BTHP's. Unfourtunly Hornady has discontinued them and when they're gone they're gone. The good news is they are cheap now I can buy enough to last me for some time.
 
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Besides the bedding make sure the bolt handle isn't hitting the stock. Take a very skinny strip of newspaper and put it under the bolt handle. Hold the handle down and try sliding the paper out. Repeat this test after decocking the gun.
If the paper tears or is held in place open up the handle mortise with a Dremel tool.
 
What a difference a new barrel makes. This is the first five shot group with the new Bartlein barrel installed. Hornady 178gr TAP at 100 yards prone. This TAP was doing about 2.5 inches with the factory barrel.
 

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