Rifle Jump on Recoil

MaverickNH

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I am shooting a Rem700P 26" with 308SMK175g from Southwest Ammo. I have a Harris bipod with the pivot base.

When I shoot, I am trying to load the bipod forward against a sandbag, but I still get enough rifle jump to often disrupt my target re-acquisition. The bipod hops some and pivots.

I'd appreciate some suggestions. Maybe I need a non-pivoting bipod? I'm planning a muzzle brake until I can get a suppressor.
Thanks.
 
Re: Rifle Jump on Recoil

<span style="color: #FF0000">Are you setting the rifle up so it's natural point of aim is on the target, or are you adjusting the POA to your position?</span> If you don't build your position <span style="font-style: italic">around the NPA</span>, your rifle will have a tendency to want to move to where it's NPA actually is after the shot breaks.

<span style="color: #FF0000">Are you straight back behind the rifle?</span> If not, the recoil energy is not being fully absorbed by your body.

<span style="color: #FF0000">Is the butt tucked into your shoulder pocket well?</span> If not, the butt could be shifting around on your deltoid during the recoil pulse. Enveloping the butt in your shoulder pocket will really help maintain the NPA by giving your rifle something solid to recoil against and keeping the butt from sliding around under the force of the recoil.
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Are you relaxed on the rifle?</span> If you're tensed up on the rifle, it is likely that you could be redirecting some of the recoil energy rather than absorbing it.
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Are you following through after the shot breaks?</span> If you are not staying planted (read- cheek weld, grip, trigger pull all the way to the back of it's range of travel) then, again, you could be redirecting some the recoil or giving the gun room to deviate from POA.

<span style="color: #FF0000">How tight do you have your swivel cinched down?</span> I've seen guys shoot with loose and tight swivels. I don't think it's that big of a deal when you have your fundamentals down and build a solid position when you get behind the rifle. However, if you don't have a solid position, the rifle could be twisting due to wiggle room you are allotting it. The Chief out at the range I shoot at suggested that you want the swivel cinched down tight enough that you have to use a small amount of force to get the gun to pivot side to side and not so loose that the gun will rock back and forth with ease. I wrapped a patch around the knob and got a grip on it with my pliers and tightened it down just enough that it still pivot but will hold it's position when you find your desired spot.

Hope something helps ya. I know my .243 Rem 700 with a sporter barrel likes to move around a little when shot from a granite bench top, but when shooting prone in the grass, it's a non issue. I've seen LL's video on bipods not hopping many times and I concede that most of the time, it's problems in my execution that is causing the gun to move, but I think the barrel weight has to play a part in whether or not the gun hops on different surfaces. That being said, I wouldn't think that would be an issue for you shooting a 26" 700P.

Good luck.
 
Re: Rifle Jump on Recoil

you are not driving the rifle correctly. it doesn't matter what kind of bipod you run, you would have the same issues until you fix them.

you need to square yourself up behind the rifle. don't try to overload the bipod. its a mix of forward loading and keeping the buttstock locked into your shoulder pocket. maintaining good sight picture and riding the gun with proper follow through during recoil. a brake or suppressor will also not help you much until your fundamentals are addressed.

someone will come along shortly that may be better able to describe it than i or you could sign up for the online training.
 
Re: Rifle Jump on Recoil

I would sign up for the online training, its a great resource that discusses this topic in depth. The others are correct, you need to establish your NPA, get straight behind the rifle, load the bipod, relax your body and then drive the rifle. With those steps you should eliminate bipod hop.

It helps to watch it in a video to get the concepts down which the online training does.
 
Re: Rifle Jump on Recoil

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: blklabs</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I would sign up for the online training, its a great resource that discusses this topic in depth. The others are correct, you need to establish your NPA, get straight behind the rifle, load the bipod, relax your body and then drive the rifle. With those steps you should eliminate bipod hop.

It helps to watch it in a video to get the concepts down which the online training does. </div></div>

Thanks for the thoughts, all. I just upped for the Online Training lessons and hope to get activated soon.
 
Re: Rifle Jump on Recoil

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: MaverickNH</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: blklabs</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I would sign up for the online training, its a great resource that discusses this topic in depth. The others are correct, you need to establish your NPA, get straight behind the rifle, load the bipod, relax your body and then drive the rifle. With those steps you should eliminate bipod hop.

It helps to watch it in a video to get the concepts down which the online training does. </div></div>

Thanks for the thoughts, all. I just upped for the Online Training lessons and hope to get activated soon. </div></div>

Good decision, you will learn a lot.
 
Re: Rifle Jump on Recoil

MontanaMarine posted a thread with pics about 2 years ago. I think it was titled something along the lines of "an easy sling method".

The comment about driving the rifle and using a cuff sling is where I'm aiming at that.

The other thing that you might be able to do is setup on a shooting mat that has a lip sewn into the forward area to act as a positive catch for the bipod feet.