Suppressors Run your supressor wet?

[Searcher]

I have been playing with single point and reflex supressors on both rifles and pistols and have found that they all benefit GREATLY from running wet. This is especially apparent on the first shot which is typically the loudest.

What do you put in your supressor when running "wet"? I know folks that use water. IMHO, water is worthless for a number of reasons. The fact that it doesnt work well is the biggest.

 

[Strangedays]

Re: Run your supressor wet?

What are you using? For the liquid.

 

[Searcher]

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I use grease. I have used different kinds of grease, but have settled on some stuff that is sold by the Caterpillar dealer. It is super stringy (if you touch it with your finger and pull away, it leaves long strings of grease like spiders webs). I fill a squeeze bottle with this stuff and squirt about a table spoon worth into the blast chamber (the chamber nearest the muzzle). I use a Q-tip to spread the stuff and make sure it isnt gobbed up in the bullet's path.

Using grease makes alot more smoke, but the sound supression is really enhanced.

 

[Outsydlooknin75]

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Try some ultrasound gel, or wire pulling lube. Both have been used and seem to work pretty well.

 

[RollingThunder51]

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As to running a <span style="text-decoration: underline">rifle cartirdge suppressor wet</span>, well I would offer the following, its all fun until it all goes terribly wrong. Most designer actually specify the type, the amount of ablative to be used and how/where within the suppressor it is to applied... by the cc amount. Not every can is designed for random wetting with "maybe more will be quieter" amounts. For the vast majority of great designs, if it is centerfire and it is a rifle cartridge, it does <span style="text-decoration: underline">not need any </span>artificial environment to deal with suppression. Can it help with first round pop? Rarely, and by design, but most other times the risks are far greater than generally understood.

Today, many manufacturers are explicit. Tiny amounts of water can be introduced (5cc?) to suppress flash....<span style="text-decoration: underline">flash</span>. And then some are clear, clean your host immediately afterwards or find that that very same water can migrate through the stack into the barrel and through the gas system, corroding it all along the way. For them, running gels, light oil, grease, etc. can be a disaster leading to excessive smoke at best and/or hydraulic effect at worse, spiking pressures and ruining your perfectly good shirt.

My advice? Stop.

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[Fred_C_Dobbs]

Re: Run your supressor wet?

Cable pulling gel, $6 for 32 ozs @Home Depot.

 

[JDT]

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Cable pulling Gel used here too. Just out of curiosity I would be interested to know how you other guys are injecting the gel into the can. I was using a small syringe. Any better ways.

 

[SmileMaker]

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Cable pulling gel injected with a monoject 12cc syringe
with a curved tip

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001AIW...F3HD5ZC36BAW73G

cheaper to ask your dentist for one.

 

[Fred_C_Dobbs]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: SmileMaker</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Cable pulling gel injected with a monoject 12cc syringe
with a curved tip

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001AIW...F3HD5ZC36BAW73G

cheaper to ask your dentist for one. </div></div>
I get them at the local co-op.

 

[Searcher]

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I originally tried the syringe, but had problems when trying to reuse them. Its not that I am a cheap bastard; I will spend what I have to, but syringes are hard to come by around here. I would have to roll a crack head and take his stash.

The squeeze bottle works well, because it is easily reuseable. Supressor dont take much grease, so applying the stuff is easy. I will try a curved needle that is used for epoxy. Great idea Smilemaker!

As far as supressing flash, I have never seen a flash emitted from a supressor. I have tried the suggested amount of water in a number of different cans and it had no measureable effect on sound. Also, the first shot pop is a problem 90% of the time. Grease definitely takes care of that issue.

 

[Jerry m]

Re: Run your supressor wet?

Go to a marine store and look for the plastic syringe sold by West System. It has a plastic 'needle' used to inject resin in hard to reach places. I use one for grease. Works well.

Good luck

Jerry

 

[KYS]

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White lithium grease

 

[UrbanMyth]

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+1 KYS338

same here.

 

[JerkeeJoe]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Searcher</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

As far as supressing flash, I have never seen a flash emitted from a supressor. I have tried the suggested amount of water in a number of different cans and it had no measureable effect on sound. Also, the first shot pop is a problem 90% of the time. Grease definitely takes care of that issue.

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Go to the 1:30 mark in this vid to see some flash.

Suppressor Muzzle Flash

 

[Searcher]

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Fred, JDT, Smilemaker, KYS, Urban, Thanks all. Its nice to know what others do.

Thankyou Jerry, I'll check that out.

Jerky, Wow. Okay, I stand corrected. I have only fired a couple of non subsonic rounds through a supressor. I guess because whisper quiet was my goal so I didnt go that direction. The vid would have been more interesting if they didnt use such a toad on the AR.

 

[JerkeeJoe]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Searcher</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> The vid would have been more interesting if they didnt use such a toad on the AR. </div></div>

No kidding. My wife runs a gun better than that tool. I'm not the biggest fan of AAC (the makers of the video) because of how they handle some things, but they do make some good stuff.

 

[leadbullet]

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KY jelly, I found is the best for really quiting down a can.

 

[300WSM]

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wet rifle can my understanding is a no no. to much pressure

 

[RollingThunder51]

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Already tried to deliver that message above...

Next trick is setting himself on fire....at least he will have plenty of gel to put himself out.

Quantity boys, quantity matters and is based on the can. All to be delivered the right way to the right areas of the can.

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