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San Francisco began registering non-citizens, including undocumented immigrants, to register to vote Monday in the November election

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    Tax dollars at work.. yep, what does this do to your vote???

    Man California and SF especially are paving the way for some real BS.

    https://www.google.com/amp/amp.sacbee.com/news/state/california/article215095600.html

    Where will this shit stop?



    July 18, 2018 10:38 AM

    San Francisco began registering non-citizens, including undocumented immigrants, to register to vote Monday in the November election for the city school board, reported The San Francisco Chronicle.
    The move follows passage of a 2016 ballot measure by San Francisco voters opening school elections to non-citizens who are over the age of 18, city residents and have children under age 19, reported the publication.
    “This is no-brainer legislation,” Hillary Ronen, a San Francisco supervisor, told the Chronicle. “Why would we not want our parents invested in the education of their children?”
     
    This is the kind of crime that goes on and Congress and the Federal election committee sit by and do nothing. What they are knowingly doing is criminal. Why isn't it being addressed? Oh...I get it, the sitters on both sides of the aisle don't give a shit.

    Yeah, because you can imagine the response if we came on here talking about building machineguns without a tax stamp. They'll investigate that, and they'll arrest people if they're doing it.

    Foreign alien on US soil registering to vote and doing it in the open? Public officials usurping the vote of the legitimate voters by assisting illegals to vote? Nah.
     
    Yeah, SF is doing this because the Dems know most Californians are pissed. With the Dems moving even more left, the Walkaway movement is picking up steam here. Lot of conservative Dems are saying enough is enough...
     
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    Can’t see citizens putting up with this bs much longer. Completely out of control?
     
    I couldn’t give two fucks or a cup of cold piss with respect to voting in Frisco. Will be there in a few hours. I love walking around there with a ear to ear grin. Luckily no one understands why except a couple of close buds that unfortunately live there.

    The more the left continues, the worse it will be for their relevance. All sorts of people are getting tired of being associated with the loony left. I am going to enjoy engaging in some deep philosophical conversations while I am there.
     
    This is hardly without precedence as there is a long history across the US of allowing voting without citizenship. Federal law didn't prohibit non-citizens from voting until 1996, and that is only in federal elections, so SCOTUS is out of the picture here. Unfortunately, this is where they start as they know the schools is where the real indoctrination occurs, and the board is the ones who lay out what will and will not be taught. Nothing like developing your base from age 4.

    The biggest worry I have about all this is California's "Motor-Voter" type law where it's on the DMV to verify citizenship while Cali also allows illegals to get driver's licenses, hardly the level or place I would be confident in accuracy and lack of corruption. That is the real gateway to illegal voting where it counts for all of us.
     
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    Well, simple solution: kick CA out of the Union. Rename it 'Dumbfuckistan' and it can be its own mess. Round up all the commies in the rest of the states and throw them over the border. Maybe we can do the same thing with eastern NY/NJ/CT/MA down to DC. THERE is where we need to build a wall.
     
    Maybe we should include CO with CA as I have met quite a few communist/socialists there?

    There are good people, our kind, in every state. Segregating by state is no solution. I happen to know quite a few stand up people in all of the Eastern states you mention.

    Not interested in throwing those to the wolves as many cannot leave their state for a variety of reasons
     
    Reading about how the illegals got the vote was interesting -

    - Measure N in 2016 was passed by a 54% margin (2x prior failed attempts)
    - Has a sunset provision for 2022 unless passed (not by the voter) by the board of supervisors (county / city council)
    - Was ONLY for school board elections and is being extended by Officials (possibly) beyond the written scope of the voter approved measure

    From the article:

    Chicago and some Maryland cities also allow non-citizen residents to vote in school board elections, reported KPIX.

    Several cities in Massachusetts, including Cambridge, Amherst, Brookline and others, have at various times voted to allow non-citizens to vote in local elections, but those moves require legislation from state lawmakers to take effect, reported The Boston Globe.


    Read more here: https://www.sacbee.com/news/state/california/article215095600.html#storylink=cpy
     
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    Well, simple solution: kick CA out of the Union. Rename it 'Dumbfuckistan' and it can be its own mess. Round up all the commies in the rest of the states and throw them over the border. Maybe we can do the same thing with eastern NY/NJ/CT/MA down to DC. THERE is where we need to build a wall.
    Hell no, that state has beautiful landscapes and the state produces more money than it takes in. California hasn't realized it yet but the rest of the nation is just milking them while they are literally setting themselves on fire.
     
    Maybe we should include CO with CA as I have met quite a few communist/socialists there?

    The cancer hasn't completely ravaged this organ yet. Most of the commies in CO came from those states in the first place, so making them countries from which people would need to immigrate instead of just move would slow the rate of metastasis. That states I mentioned are total losses. Are there real Americans that believe in the founding ideals of individual liberty and personal responsibility in those states? Of course. But they are too outnumbered. They are already 'with the wolves'.
     
    You can't just let CA go free, give it back to Mexico and get out the popcorn.

    Do that and CA will create their own revolution and beg to be let back in.
     
    The cancer hasn't completely ravaged this organ yet. Most of the commies in CO came from those states in the first place, so making them countries from which people would need to immigrate instead of just move would slow the rate of metastasis. That states I mentioned are total losses. Are there real Americans that believe in the founding ideals of individual liberty and personal responsibility in those states? Of course. But they are too outnumbered. They are already 'with the wolves'.

    Nope...owned a house in CO for many years. Even the some of the indigenous are socialists or very left leaning in many areas. Thought owning a gun was unnecessary unless it was a hunting rifle

    However, my point is your solution is NO solution. Could and would never occur.

    And as far as “being with the wolves” is concerned, I think you have it backwards.

    We are the wolves and right now we are circling and waiting patiently...even in New England
     
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    You can't just let CA go free, give it back to Mexico and get out the popcorn.

    Do that and CA will create their own revolution and beg to be let back in.


    Tuco approves

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    No matter the Political flavor of the citizens most are not stupid. But the stupid ones are real loud. These loud ones are the people the Dems built their base on. They can't let go of their crazy base. This will only move the intelligent folks away from them. No matter which way The Dems go they lose. Go Left lose the sane. Go to Center lose their base. Daddy Trump is killing their ability to Import more idiots.

    They have done this to themselves and it is Poetic. My only doubt of their demise is the Polls. Does the Vote have integrity? I think we do now at least I hope we do. If not we are effed.

    This is why the nuts are getting elected. They can't rig the polls because Trump has people looking.
     
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    First, I voted against this.

    Second, non-citizens are only allowed to vote in school board elections.

    Third, yes, illegals can vote, too, but that’s consistent with other city policies.

    The paperwork they get makes it clear (in 14 languages) that they cannot vote for anything other than the school board.

    Lastly, the law expires in 2020.

    As I wrote, I voted against the measure. I don’t want non-citizens voting for the fucking dog catcher. I just want to make sure everyone gets the facts straight.
     
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    To add onto this a lot of illegals actually vote for conservative politicians. McAllen TX smd Rio Grande Valley have a large latino population and conservative latino politicians abound. You don't see people like that Socialist from the Bronx
     
    To add onto this a lot of illegals actually vote for ......

    Just stop there. That's a fucking moronic statement. Their presence in this country is illegal. They are not supposed to be here and sure as hell shouldn't have any say in our politics. Someone breaks in my house I shoot them, not ask how they like the way the furniture is arranged.
     
    Around here, the illegals are a D vote.

    We need immigration reform because the type we get around here are the wrong type.
     
    Just stop there. That's a fucking moronic statement. Their presence in this country is illegal. They are not supposed to be here and sure as hell shouldn't have any say in our politics. Someone breaks in my house I shoot them, not ask how they like the way the furniture is arranged.
    Like was mentioned above they vote for city council positions based on city legislation. Not necessarily state or federal positions. I'm not saying it's good, just the fact that residents of cities whether they are here legally, a resident alien, or illegally get to vote for city positions based on if the city allows it.
     
    This is the same city that is full of poop right? The same city that spends so much per homeless person they could just buy'em all a condo? They will let dogs and cats vote if it keeps them in power.
     
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    Nope...owned a house in CO for many years. Even the some of the indigenous are socialists or very left leaning in many areas. Thought owning a gun was unnecessary unless it was a hunting rifle

    Not sure where your house was, front range I'm guessing. I don't even consider that Colorado anymore. By indigenous do you mean Ute? The people who have lived where I am for generations are ranchers or miners and they regard liberals as they should: as morons. This valley has a lot of libtards now and they all came from somewhere else. I'm guessing those you refer to as 'indigenous' were transplants who had been there a couple decades and bestowed the term 'local' unto themselves. If you moved to Aspen from Commiefornia in the 70s or to Boulder in the 90s or to Fort Collins a week ago you're still a Commiefornian. But whatever -- comparing CO to CA is ridiculous. And if you removed all the Californians and all of the other dumbasses that moved here just because weed is legal from CO it would resemble WY.

    Just stop there. That's a fucking moronic statement. Their presence in this country is illegal. They are not supposed to be here and sure as hell shouldn't have any say in our politics. Someone breaks in my house I shoot them, not ask how they like the way the furniture is arranged.

    You could at least tell them that the rug they're bleeding out on really tied the room together.
     
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    And so another thread devolves into California bashing. :) How predictable...
     
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    Lotta people from Texas moving out to Colorado as well but sadly they are Austin transplants so we're not really helping either.
    I hear Boise is blowing up as the place to be.
     
    I'm all for rich libtards leaving Austin and going elsewhere... perhaps we could export them back to California?
     
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    Thought it was only for school board and dogcatcher elections... But, it's a foot in toe door for the 'wets.

    It's not Mexico interfering with our elections... it's liberals/progressives/socialists/communists.

    If their ideas don't sell with Americans... import voters. Simple... The party machines have been doing it since Tammany Hall, Boston Democrats and... well... forever. How the hell do you think the Irish were let in?

    Cheers,

    Sirhr
     
    You can't just let CA go free, give it back to Mexico and get out the popcorn.

    Do that and CA will create their own revolution and beg to be let back in.

    Mexico would conquer Cali in a week if we gave it back to them. All the smart 2A people would get the hell out of dodge before the fecal matter hit the fan and they'd be left with your typical Antifa nutbag. Mexico is full of hardened mofos (cartel types), California isn't. I'll bring the popcorn.
     
    Kind of, they will hit resistance in the central valley and while that happens, I have a feeling some serious changes would take place further north...
     
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    Let the Mexicans come in and mop up all the liberals.
    Then when they are done, those that actually know what they are doing can start getting rid of the Mexicans and taking all of CA back including the part Mexico got to keep last time.
     
    Let the Mexicans come in and mop up all the liberals.
    Then when they are done, those that actually know what they are doing can start getting rid of the Mexicans and taking all of CA back including the part Mexico got to keep last time.
    We could just skip the middle man and just push antifa into the ocean or the California fires. Why let the cartel members have all the fun?
     
    To add onto this a lot of illegals actually vote for conservative politicians. McAllen TX smd Rio Grande Valley have a large latino population and conservative latino politicians abound. You don't see people like that Socialist from the Bronx


    Where are illegals voting in droves for conservative politicians in US elections?

    Cite?
     
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    https://www.npr.org/2016/12/22/5063...lican-and-other-myths-about-hispanics-from-20

    "Suarez miscalculated, but so did a lot of analysts.

    Maybe the big lesson from 2016 is that a solid number of Latinos are conservative, and they will consistently vote for Republicans. Roughly 30 percent of Hispanics chose a Republican candidate in each of the last three election cycles."


    I just wanna know if SqueakyFreak's propaganda mill has a good dental plan.
    You want to donate to my wisdom teeth operation? I'll send you a venmo request.
     
    I grew up in the East Bay right with the Hells Angels and Black Panthers. Zodiac Killer. The ol' man worked at Alameda NAV. San Franciscans didn't go there. Hell, the Oakland Angels stomped the shit out of the Cisco chapter for being a bunch of pussies. The Real Dirty Harry was an Oakland cop. Lol. Anyway, they are all living on borrowed time. Our family plots are a couple of hundred yards from the Hayward fault line. You can see it from their graves. I hope I make it there on time. God willing and the creeks don't rise.
     
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    Look Cisco will implode on its own. They're living on and in a garbage landfill. People will die and just take solice in that and don't donate or watch the concert. I've got family still living around there. I'm willing to make that sort of sacrifice. What is good for the company is good for everybody.
     
    Words have meaning.

    You said ILLEGAL

    Those are presumably US citizens that happen to be of Latin ancestry. Are you calling them all illegals? Or did you try to cite an apple for an orange?
    Oh, now that's it is convenient for you to prove that I am wrong you are going to give them the benefit of the doubt? Of those ~410k who voted of which 30% voted Republican (which is a lot, but not a majority), of which there will be some illegal voters. Anything more than zero is a lot to me.

    "News" References
    - http://time.com/4669899/illegal-citizens-voting-trump/
    "The Trump administration continues to double down on its false and widely-criticized assertion that 3 to 5 million non-citizens illegally voted in the 2016 election.

    On Sunday, White House Senior Advisor Stephen Miller claimed 14% of non-citizens are registered to vote. “We know for a fact, you have massive numbers of non-citizens registered to vote in this country,” he said, appearing on ABC’s This Week With George Stephanopoulos. “The White House has provided enormous evidence with respect to voter fraud.” ... "votes by non-citizens account for between 0.0003 percent and 0.001 percent of all votes cast. "

    - https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/illegal-immigrants-2008-election/ **Debunks the Washington Times Article below**

    - https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/jun/19/noncitizen-illegal-vote-number-higher-than-estimat/
    "As many as 5.7 million noncitizens may have voted in the 2008 election, which put Barack Obama in the White House.
    The research organization Just Facts, a widely cited, independent think tank led by self-described conservatives and libertarians, revealed its number-crunching in a report on national immigration."
     
    All the liberal illegals in the US should move to CA..it should go bankrupt and be put in receivership.
     
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