Ok, so I picked up a new Savage Edge in .223 last night. Every review I read was positive with most claiming 1/2 moa accuracy so will post again with results. I have several Savage rifles and have never been disappointed. Anyone have experience with these rifles? If this one shoots good, I am considering another in 7mm-08. What are your thoughts on this caliber?
Savage Edge
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7mm-08 is a grea tdeer killer, I here it's good out to 1000 or so as a target cartridge, but I think you'll need a heavier barrel for that.
7mm-08 is a grea tdeer killer, I here it's good out to 1000 or so as a target cartridge, but I think you'll need a heavier barrel for that.
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7mm08 is a fine caliber and you will be able to most anything you want with it, especially if you are handloading. It will work great on deer etc and if you can get some good high bc projectiles shooting well it will kill some targets at range too.
I do not have any experience with the "edge" rifles, but I have shot a lot of rounds through model 10 and 12s. All of them shot great out of the box, but I would not bet on consistent .5 minute work. Occasional, sure, but not consistent .5. All of mine were CONSISTENTLY under 1 minute with good handloads, hovering right around 3/4 minute. VERY good for a modestly priced factory rifle.
One problem with the edge, unless i am mistaken, is that many of the typical savage parts will not be compatible with it. Any one else hear of this?
7mm08 is a fine caliber and you will be able to most anything you want with it, especially if you are handloading. It will work great on deer etc and if you can get some good high bc projectiles shooting well it will kill some targets at range too.
I do not have any experience with the "edge" rifles, but I have shot a lot of rounds through model 10 and 12s. All of them shot great out of the box, but I would not bet on consistent .5 minute work. Occasional, sure, but not consistent .5. All of mine were CONSISTENTLY under 1 minute with good handloads, hovering right around 3/4 minute. VERY good for a modestly priced factory rifle.
One problem with the edge, unless i am mistaken, is that many of the typical savage parts will not be compatible with it. Any one else hear of this?
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Lots of shooters dont care for them , But I think there about the best accuracy you can get for the price
Lots of shooters dont care for them , But I think there about the best accuracy you can get for the price
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: nobearsyet</div><div class="ubbcode-body">7mm-08 is a grea tdeer killer, I here it's good out to 1000 or so as a target cartridge, but I think you'll need a heavier barrel for that. </div></div>
You will need another gun for that. The 7-08 is a fine cartridge yes, but the Edge is not a precision platform. A heavy barrel doesn't make an accurate rifle, the Edge has a semi-crummy trigger, and a stock to match. It is a fine rifle for the average deer hunter, but without some serious work I doubt it would ever do well beyond 2 or 300 yards.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: nobearsyet</div><div class="ubbcode-body">7mm-08 is a grea tdeer killer, I here it's good out to 1000 or so as a target cartridge, but I think you'll need a heavier barrel for that. </div></div>
You will need another gun for that. The 7-08 is a fine cartridge yes, but the Edge is not a precision platform. A heavy barrel doesn't make an accurate rifle, the Edge has a semi-crummy trigger, and a stock to match. It is a fine rifle for the average deer hunter, but without some serious work I doubt it would ever do well beyond 2 or 300 yards.
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I already have two Savage Tactical rifles, one in .308 and one in .300 WM so i'm not looking for a tackdriver. But like the man said, only accurate rifles are interesting, i'm just looking at expanding my rifle lineup outside the usual calibers and the 7mm-08 is one i've never experienced. The edge is what it is, the stock serves the purpose and i've got a gunsmith that can smooth the trigger. For less than $300.00 a rifle, I can afford better glass and more ammo.
I already have two Savage Tactical rifles, one in .308 and one in .300 WM so i'm not looking for a tackdriver. But like the man said, only accurate rifles are interesting, i'm just looking at expanding my rifle lineup outside the usual calibers and the 7mm-08 is one i've never experienced. The edge is what it is, the stock serves the purpose and i've got a gunsmith that can smooth the trigger. For less than $300.00 a rifle, I can afford better glass and more ammo.
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The stock will always be it's downfall. And there is no aftermarket stock for that rifle. You can do my budget stock upgrade I have posted here (search through my posts for the tuperware stock post). The edge is simply made completely different than any other savage rifle. I would recommend a stevens 200 that way if you decide to upgrade later you're set. But they don't make the stevens 200 with a 1 in 9.5 twist for the 7mm-08.
My McGowen is on it's way in 7mm-08 but it's a bull that's 26" long and a 1 in 8 twist.
So I guess if you just want into the 7mm-08 game the edge is probably the way to go but just not the ideal platform. But it's a savage so we all know it will shoot the lights out. You will probably be limited to 162gr A-max's will probably be as heavy as you will be able to go before the bullet loses stability. My brother's stevens in 7mm-08 is a 1 in 11.5 twist and we tried the 150smks in it. The bullet went through the target at 200 yards sideways. I'd never seen it happen before then. That's why I overtwisted my 7mm-08. And if you look at the a-max it says right on the side of the box for a 1 in 8 twist.
Good luck,
Merritt
The stock will always be it's downfall. And there is no aftermarket stock for that rifle. You can do my budget stock upgrade I have posted here (search through my posts for the tuperware stock post). The edge is simply made completely different than any other savage rifle. I would recommend a stevens 200 that way if you decide to upgrade later you're set. But they don't make the stevens 200 with a 1 in 9.5 twist for the 7mm-08.
My McGowen is on it's way in 7mm-08 but it's a bull that's 26" long and a 1 in 8 twist.
So I guess if you just want into the 7mm-08 game the edge is probably the way to go but just not the ideal platform. But it's a savage so we all know it will shoot the lights out. You will probably be limited to 162gr A-max's will probably be as heavy as you will be able to go before the bullet loses stability. My brother's stevens in 7mm-08 is a 1 in 11.5 twist and we tried the 150smks in it. The bullet went through the target at 200 yards sideways. I'd never seen it happen before then. That's why I overtwisted my 7mm-08. And if you look at the a-max it says right on the side of the box for a 1 in 8 twist.
Good luck,
Merritt
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: topgun99</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> i'm not looking for a tackdriver.<span style="color: red"> okay </span>
only accurate rifles are interesting <span style="color: red"> thats a bit contradicting</span>
The edge is what it is <span style="color: red"> a cheap option with lower than average accuracy </span>
the stock serves the purpose <span style="color: red"> not really, another cheap option thats un-upgradable, and tupperwary </span>
i've got a gunsmith that can smooth the trigger.<span style="color: red"> for $$$</span>
For less than $300.00 a rifle, I can afford <span style="font-weight: bold">better glass and more ammo.</span> <span style="color: red"> you will need lots of both</span></div></div>
There is another thread in here about guys selling off lesser guns to purchase one good one, you are going the other way, instead of spending your hard earned money on one or two good guns, or fixing them up even better, you are spending it on an entry level rifle. If you already have two "savage tactical rifles" then why not make them better in stead. You can only shoot one at a time, and most would rather have one good one that they can do it all with. In stead of having a bunch of bullet hoses.
I am all for having lots of guns, and different variety of guns, but not at the cost of a useful accurate rifle.
In the end it is your money, and nobody can change what you hope to do. Either way, I wish you well in your quest.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: topgun99</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> i'm not looking for a tackdriver.<span style="color: red"> okay </span>
only accurate rifles are interesting <span style="color: red"> thats a bit contradicting</span>
The edge is what it is <span style="color: red"> a cheap option with lower than average accuracy </span>
the stock serves the purpose <span style="color: red"> not really, another cheap option thats un-upgradable, and tupperwary </span>
i've got a gunsmith that can smooth the trigger.<span style="color: red"> for $$$</span>
For less than $300.00 a rifle, I can afford <span style="font-weight: bold">better glass and more ammo.</span> <span style="color: red"> you will need lots of both</span></div></div>
There is another thread in here about guys selling off lesser guns to purchase one good one, you are going the other way, instead of spending your hard earned money on one or two good guns, or fixing them up even better, you are spending it on an entry level rifle. If you already have two "savage tactical rifles" then why not make them better in stead. You can only shoot one at a time, and most would rather have one good one that they can do it all with. In stead of having a bunch of bullet hoses.
I am all for having lots of guns, and different variety of guns, but not at the cost of a useful accurate rifle.
In the end it is your money, and nobody can change what you hope to do. Either way, I wish you well in your quest.
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While there is something to be said for owning one gun and being very good with it, imho, shooting the same gun with the same ammo putting each round in the same hole over and over becomes a bit mundane. Part of the allure of owning more than one rifle in different calibers is load development to achieve the best performance. To each his own. As for the Edge, i'm sure some company will come up with an aftermarket stock sometime in the future, considering the action is already set up for detachable mags I wouldn't think this would be difficult. I have been known to be wrong though.
While there is something to be said for owning one gun and being very good with it, imho, shooting the same gun with the same ammo putting each round in the same hole over and over becomes a bit mundane. Part of the allure of owning more than one rifle in different calibers is load development to achieve the best performance. To each his own. As for the Edge, i'm sure some company will come up with an aftermarket stock sometime in the future, considering the action is already set up for detachable mags I wouldn't think this would be difficult. I have been known to be wrong though.
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You are right on several points, but putting the same round in the same hole is what most people are striving to do. Once that has been accomplished you are only at the beginning, from there you move on to distance shooting, with wind, and angles, temperatures,ect.
As far as making aftermarket parts for the Edge, we'll see in time. The detachable magazine is in the stock, not the action, as is the recoil lug.
You are right on several points, but putting the same round in the same hole is what most people are striving to do. Once that has been accomplished you are only at the beginning, from there you move on to distance shooting, with wind, and angles, temperatures,ect.
As far as making aftermarket parts for the Edge, we'll see in time. The detachable magazine is in the stock, not the action, as is the recoil lug.
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You are right as well, just shooting well at 100 yards isn't everything. There are alot of variables to practice. As far as the stock goes these are small obstacles. But the edge is probably better left as it is meant to be, a good entry level beginner rifle with good hunting accuracy.
You are right as well, just shooting well at 100 yards isn't everything. There are alot of variables to practice. As far as the stock goes these are small obstacles. But the edge is probably better left as it is meant to be, a good entry level beginner rifle with good hunting accuracy.
