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Posted this on FB regarding free recoil, a couple of comments and I am not gonna use FB to post them.
1. That is not what I would consider Free Recoil and in Fact, that is how I do it. There is still contact with the buttstock, trigger control is not compromised by just using the finger with a thumb resting on the trigger guard. Marrying up the rifle as it balances on the barricade is not the same as hanging to the side removing the shooter completely.
2. Contradictions Applied: if you can't get good trigger control, you should be learning what good trigger control is, vs removing the control and balancing the thumb against the trigger guard. You outline the problem and then move to go around the most basic problem. That is what the complaint is, you address it correctly in the video but you talk around the issue.
Fixing a shooter's trigger control, even in this single instance is more valuable than the compromise. Admitting that trigger control is where people fall down is the point, and each time the proponents of Free Recoil say, The shooter's trigger control is bad so let's move to something else.
Free Recoil that is being debated is the rifle out of the shoulder pocket with the hand away from the stock.
Balancing the rifle and using a light touch to reduce shooter influence is not the issue by any stretch of the conversation. It's moving off the rifle we are trying to highlight, the absolute removal of the shooter in all ways but the most basic manipulation of the trigger with the firing hand support missing. Simple pressure down so the rifle is not pushed off the barricade and then pinch approach to trigger control.
We already know Free Recoil in various forms works, you can thank the benchrest guys and F Class shooters for blazing that trail. Because everything is moving in this direction and the gear has followed is really the point of discussion on there, and that goes into the lack of training you specifically hit on in the video.
The message is, you can't do it right, so rather than practice and focus, it's a compromise and that compromise is in the form of equipment. Heavier rifle, lighter trigger, smaller caliber. It's Barricade Benchrest vs Marksmanship principles. if you did not kiss up to the rifle with your shoulder, light or otherwise, the recoil would have been more pronounced in its movement requiring an extra step to reset.
I align the reticle to about .5 mil below the target, so when I kiss up to the rifle and assume my position and cheek weld the buttstock will move down and the muzzle up so I am naturally aligned to the target which includes my body position. My trigger control does not change because I focus on it no matter what the situation.
Free recoil in benchrest is slightly different only because they use a rest which holds the rifle, then they can index using the rifle to return it to its original placement.
Note the trigger control technique being employed, it's the same one we are talking about. That trigger guard pinch, which you did not do. The major proponents of this technique are doing less than you, and putting the focus the downward pressure of the scope. They increase the pressure there to try and hold it still vs letting it butt into the shoulder.
Everything you did, I do, the idea is to allow the rifle to recoil back naturally but not let it get too far out there. That is not free recoil. The rub is, the admission of fundamental problems in control that are bypassed.
Posted this on FB regarding free recoil, a couple of comments and I am not gonna use FB to post them.
1. That is not what I would consider Free Recoil and in Fact, that is how I do it. There is still contact with the buttstock, trigger control is not compromised by just using the finger with a thumb resting on the trigger guard. Marrying up the rifle as it balances on the barricade is not the same as hanging to the side removing the shooter completely.
2. Contradictions Applied: if you can't get good trigger control, you should be learning what good trigger control is, vs removing the control and balancing the thumb against the trigger guard. You outline the problem and then move to go around the most basic problem. That is what the complaint is, you address it correctly in the video but you talk around the issue.
Fixing a shooter's trigger control, even in this single instance is more valuable than the compromise. Admitting that trigger control is where people fall down is the point, and each time the proponents of Free Recoil say, The shooter's trigger control is bad so let's move to something else.
Free Recoil that is being debated is the rifle out of the shoulder pocket with the hand away from the stock.
Balancing the rifle and using a light touch to reduce shooter influence is not the issue by any stretch of the conversation. It's moving off the rifle we are trying to highlight, the absolute removal of the shooter in all ways but the most basic manipulation of the trigger with the firing hand support missing. Simple pressure down so the rifle is not pushed off the barricade and then pinch approach to trigger control.
We already know Free Recoil in various forms works, you can thank the benchrest guys and F Class shooters for blazing that trail. Because everything is moving in this direction and the gear has followed is really the point of discussion on there, and that goes into the lack of training you specifically hit on in the video.
The message is, you can't do it right, so rather than practice and focus, it's a compromise and that compromise is in the form of equipment. Heavier rifle, lighter trigger, smaller caliber. It's Barricade Benchrest vs Marksmanship principles. if you did not kiss up to the rifle with your shoulder, light or otherwise, the recoil would have been more pronounced in its movement requiring an extra step to reset.
I align the reticle to about .5 mil below the target, so when I kiss up to the rifle and assume my position and cheek weld the buttstock will move down and the muzzle up so I am naturally aligned to the target which includes my body position. My trigger control does not change because I focus on it no matter what the situation.
Free recoil in benchrest is slightly different only because they use a rest which holds the rifle, then they can index using the rifle to return it to its original placement.
Note the trigger control technique being employed, it's the same one we are talking about. That trigger guard pinch, which you did not do. The major proponents of this technique are doing less than you, and putting the focus the downward pressure of the scope. They increase the pressure there to try and hold it still vs letting it butt into the shoulder.
Everything you did, I do, the idea is to allow the rifle to recoil back naturally but not let it get too far out there. That is not free recoil. The rub is, the admission of fundamental problems in control that are bypassed.
