SH First Look - Battleline Industries SAPR

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    #1
    <span style="font-weight: bold">Game Changer ! </span>

    Guys brand new out this week, from Battleline Industries, an adjustable cheek piece for the SOPMOD stock.

    A peek at the SAPR ...

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    Using the existing SOPMOD Butt plate, and then adjusts for height and angle in the rear and then you can adjust the cheek piece for height also.

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    Big plus, the cheek piece can be quickly thrown out of the way to both the left or the right to do immediate action with the charging handle, or if you need to lower the piece quickly for use with iron sights.

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    I will do a short function video coming in the next day or two, plus some more pictures as I mount it on my SOPMOD Stock. This is going to give you the ultimate in adjustability on your carbine plus !

    Cost is coming in at $200... a bargain for this all metal design. The Cheek Riser is coated in a Nylon coating so your face won't stick in cold weather...

    Battleline Industries is a Local CO Small Business and we are excited about this new product !

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    #3
    Re: SH First Look - Battleline Industries SAPR

    <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: BigJoe</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I have 4 sopmod buttstocks hmmm</div></div>

    Imagine,

    3 way adjustable butt plate, plus a cheek riser that throws out of the way... Game Changer !
     
    #6
    Re: SH First Look - Battleline Industries SAPR

    <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Lowlight</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: BigJoe</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I have 4 sopmod buttstocks hmmm</div></div>

    Imagine,

    3 way adjustable butt plate, plus a cheek riser that throws out of the way... Game Changer !

    </div></div>

    <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">"the design of this new cheek riser is going to take weeks if not months"

    "<span style="font-style: italic">you have <span style="text-decoration: underline">24 hours</span>!</span>"

    *look of horror*

    "GET TO THE CHOPPA!!!"</div></div>

    I was trying to decide between the SOPMOD and a few others. I would like to try this setup with the add-on cheek riser. What metal is it made out of?
     
    #8
    Re: SH First Look - Battleline Industries SAPR

    Here from the Website

    <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The Stock Attachment Precision rifle or S.A.P.R. (pronounced “Sapper”) was developed by Battleline Industries as a lightweight attachment for the current LMT SOPMOD M4 stock utilized by SOCOM. Weighing in at just 17.5 oz, the S.A.P.R. balances the weight of the rifle and gives the operator the flexibility to adjust their rifle stock to enhance their marksmanship skill set and personal fit for delivering precision rifle fire from an M4 carbine or other weapons platform that utilizes an AR-15 style carbine stock/buffer tube adapter. The S.A.P.R. cheek piece elevates vertically for proper eye height and relief when using scoped optics and has an adjustable shoulder pad section that moves vertically and rotates 360 degrees for optimal positioning and comfort.

    A key feature of the S.A.P.R. is the proprietary cheek piece that rotates 90 degrees left or right for an AR/M4 based weapons platform where the user has the stock fully collapsed while using body armor and needs to perform an immediate action because of a stoppage, allowing free movement of the charging handle regardless of the cheek piece height. The cheek piece can then be rotated back into its original position without any shift or loss of initial adjustment. In addition to this feature, the operator can rotate the cheek piece out of the way if the primary optic goes down which allows the user to get a lower “cheek weld” to use the back-up iron sights on the weapon system.

    NOTE: The cheek piece will not obstruct any weapon system with a side charging handle.

    The S.A.P.R. is proudly made 100% in the USA and is compatible with these weapon systems with the correct AR-15 carbine stock / buffer tube adapter and LMT SOPMOD stock.

    S.A.P.R. for Magpul stocks COMING SOON!.

    FN SCAR 16 & 17 with VLTOR adapter, FN PARA FAL with DSA adapter
    SR-25, AR-10, DPMS LR-308, LaRue OBR, LMT MWS (UK L129A1), POF .308 etc…
    AR-15 variants, SIG 556 rifles, AK-47 variants, HK rifles and clones with stock adapter
    Sage International M14/M1A chassis, Troy Ind. M14/M1A Modular Chassis System
    And many more!
    </div></div>

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    #10
    Re: SH First Look - Battleline Industries SAPR

    <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ArmaHeavy</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Frank.

    Can I make a suggestion on an additional test?</div></div>

    Sure ... what kind of test ?
     
    #14
    Re: SH First Look - Battleline Industries SAPR

    <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Lowlight</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ArmaHeavy</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Frank.

    Can I make a suggestion on an additional test?</div></div>

    Sure ... what kind of test ? </div></div>

    Use of it on a semi-auto precision rifle vs. Use of it on a standard rack grade carbine or rifle as in firing on the move, close quarters paddy-caking and all that jazz.

    My whole reasoning is what this rest would excel at.

    It may seem small, or weird, but I can see potential in both roles.
     
    #15
    Re: SH First Look - Battleline Industries SAPR

    That is a very innovative idea. Am considering purchasing a SOPMOD and will give this a serious look.
     
    #20
    Re: SH First Look - Battleline Industries SAPR

    <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ArmaHeavy</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Lowlight</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ArmaHeavy</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Frank.

    Can I make a suggestion on an additional test?</div></div>

    Sure ... what kind of test ? </div></div>

    Use of it on a semi-auto precision rifle vs. Use of it on a standard rack grade carbine or rifle as in firing on the move, close quarters paddy-caking and all that jazz.

    My whole reasoning is what this rest would excel at.

    It may seem small, or weird, but I can see potential in both roles.</div></div>

    I was gonna put it on my LMT MWS, but I can add it to pretty many platform, a semi precision is easy. That is the beauty I can put it on a 5.56 Lower, with a Precision 18" Upper or run it on a 16" Carbine and use it any number of several ways. With stuff like the higher mounts, your an use it to get the right eye relief and then move the riser out of the way for the irons, or you can adjust it to fit with armor, angling the butt plates, its really super versatile.

    But I plan on using it several different ways ...
     
    #22
    Re: SH First Look - Battleline Industries SAPR

    <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Tom Olson</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Im assuming this could/would replace the sliding riser on a OBR? On the LMT stock of course </div></div>

    Yes, another option.
     
    #23
    Re: SH First Look - Battleline Industries SAPR

    <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Lowlight</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Not to mention by SHOT the Magpul edition will be starting ... </div></div>

    Sounds interesting!

    Frank, can you post a link to more info please?
     
    #24
    Re: SH First Look - Battleline Industries SAPR

    There are no details on the Magpul stuff, I can only tell you it is coming.

    Battleline is a new start up and their site is limited and they have kept a lot of their details off the internet.

    I have known about this product for months, but was able to share until this week. He has other products that would be of a lot of interest particularly to the military sniper, but details of that will come as available.
     
    #31
    Re: SH First Look - Battleline Industries SAPR

    From above:

    <span style="font-style: italic">" Weighing in at just 17.5 oz, the S.A.P.R. balances the weight of the rifle and gives the operator the flexibility to adjust their rifle stock to enhance their marksmanship skill set and personal fit for delivering precision rifle fire from an M4 carbine or other weapons platform that utilizes an AR-15 style carbine stock/buffer tube adapter." </span>
     
    #35
    Re: SH First Look - Battleline Industries SAPR

    I have got to get one of these. The applications are endless. I will use this on my short 300aac Blackout gun and have a great balance for once. On my long gun this will be great so I can switch between my scope and my microdot at 1:00 by throwing the riser to the side. I cannot wait to play with one of these. It solves more problems then I even knew I had.
     
    #36
    Re: SH First Look - Battleline Industries SAPR

    I think it'll be very effective shooting prone with armor and mags. I loved getting SOPMOD stocks for work guns, awesome for CQB and close work-and use them for my person rifles, but regardless of the stock, I've always had a problem with getting a consistent cheek weld when prone with all my gear on, and it looks like this would help. I'd like to try it with some prone barricades, maybe even using the riser off to the side for a cheek weld for SBU prone, etc. Guys that are bigger up top have to fish for their optics and cheek weld from squirrely prone positions (sometimes even regular prone, if the deck is less than accommodating) especially with gear on and running optics.
     
    #39
    Re: SH First Look - Battleline Industries SAPR

    Now if you selected the correct heigth rings or riser you should have correct cheek weld ,why would you want an adjustable cheek piece ?
     
    #40
    Re: SH First Look - Battleline Industries SAPR

    <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: matchman</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Now if you selected the correct heigth rings or riser you should have correct cheek weld ,why would you want an adjustable cheek piece ? </div></div>

    Who says choosing the correct rings/mount for your application will give you a good cheek weld? If I'm using high rings and a stock sopmod I'm gonna need a riser to get my eye level comfortably. The adjustable flip to side feature with this riser is to negate charging handle interference.
     
    #41
    Re: SH First Look - Battleline Industries SAPR

    Ring height isn't the issue, if you are running an AR10 type with an optic over 10x odds are you're gonna have to mount it higher.

    So cheek weld becomes an issue, there are other reasons to run things a bit higher too, like NV which sits are 1.4" high for most.

    You have increased heights on optics with built in attachment also, so you cannot always determine the height by choosing the right rings, it's the optics that dictates it and not every one wants to run a 1-4X with a 24mm objective.

    The rifle in the video is a 308, so putting an optic that compliments it, like the 3-12x introduces the 50mm objective to the system.
     
    #42
    Re: SH First Look - Battleline Industries SAPR

    I run an Eotech EXPS-3 with a Aimpoint 3X magnifier my M-4. The Eotech sits very high off of the rail. The EXPS-3 has the built in base with the side controls and this makes it even higher. I had to add a 1/2 inch riser under my magnifier to get the pair to line up. I run the LMT sopmod and I cannot get a good cheek weld. I also have Troy iron sights that are very low in comparison to the Eotech. I get a good cheek weld with the iron sights. I tried to up a riser on the stock but then I could not use the iron sights. I think that this will work perfect for switching between the two sights.

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    #43
    Re: SH First Look - Battleline Industries SAPR

    Good point. Big objective bells require tall rings. I have not experienced the problem due to my target scope is 40mm bell and with short rings and 1/2 in riser I just get enough height.Thanks..<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Lowlight</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Ring height isn't the issue, if you are running an AR10 type with an optic over 10x odds are you're gonna have to mount it higher.

    So cheek weld becomes an issue, there are other reasons to run things a bit higher too, like NV which sits are 1.4" high for most.

    You have increased heights on optics with built in attachment also, so you cannot always determine the height by choosing the right rings, it's the optics that dictates it and not every one wants to run a 1-4X with a 24mm objective.

    The rifle in the video is a 308, so putting an optic that compliments it, like the 3-12x introduces the 50mm objective to the system. </div></div>
     
    #45
    Re: SH First Look - Battleline Industries SAPR

    From Battleline Industries, the height is adjustable up to 1.5". Once the desired height is set, the cheek piece can rotate 90 degrees left or right to access BUIS if the primary optic goes down or clear an AR-15 or AR-10 charging handle. Depending on how collapsed the stock is or how low the cheek riser is set, the charging handle may not interfere whatsoever with the cheek riser. This obviously doesn't apply to any other weapon system with an AR type receiver extension/tube with a side charging handle.

    The beauty of the S.A.P.R. (Stock Attachment Precision Rifle) is, if the cheek riser has to be rotated because it is set low or the stock is fully collapsed for use with body armor, the cheek riser will return to the original height setting the user initially installed it at.
     
    #46
    Re: SH First Look - Battleline Industries SAPR

    So... this 1.5" hight will be good to go on a carry handle? I have an A2 setup with just a fixed 4x scope. This will help bring it up to hight also? I keep my A2 as a beater truck gun due to how easy it is to shoot but I never get a cheek weld on this regular M4 stock. If it works I might want to put one on this gun also but then I would have to spend another 200.00 just to get a SOPMOD stock. Will you have any deals for the SAPR and a SOPMOD stock package or will you sell the SOPMOD stock cheaper then the 200.00 they are running at my local dealer?
     
    #47
    Re: SH First Look - Battleline Industries SAPR

    <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Lowlight</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Magpul as it will fit Magpul stocks, like the CTR, etc... </div></div>

    Schweet, I want one.
     
    #48
    Re: SH First Look - Battleline Industries SAPR

    <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Colorado Glock</div><div class="ubbcode-body">So... this 1.5" hight will be good to go on a carry handle? I have an A2 setup with just a fixed 4x scope. This will help bring it up to hight also? I keep my A2 as a beater truck gun due to how easy it is to shoot but I never get a cheek weld on this regular M4 stock. If it works I might want to put one on this gun also but then I would have to spend another 200.00 just to get a SOPMOD stock. Will you have any deals for the SAPR and a SOPMOD stock package or will you sell the SOPMOD stock cheaper then the 200.00 they are running at my local dealer? </div></div>

    I am going to get one of the SOPMOD stocks made by B5 Systems, that will cut the price of the overall package drastically. They can be had for about half that.
     
    #50
    Re: SH First Look - Battleline Industries SAPR

    <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Colorado Glock</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Are the B5 stocks just the same as the LMT SOPMOD stocks or are the like a airsoft one?

    Does anyone know anything about them or have any information on how they work.
    </div></div>

    From my research, it looks to be the exact same thing, save for the very first run of stocks, which were not sold retail, and had the wrong specs given for production. It is possible that you could get one through a private-party sale, but they shouldn't be on the retail market at all (the defective early ones; they fit too tightly). B5 actually makes them for the US military now, under contract. The lower price appears to be due purely to the vast number being produced.

    Supposedly, the military gets them for about $13!
     
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