Sidearms & Scatterguns SH handgun Dot Torture challenge

[308pirate]

So another thread took a tangent that inspired me to start this.

If you want to play, here are the rules: http://pistol-training.com/drills/dot-torture

If you use a striker-fired or SA pistol, use the original Dot Torture target

If you use a DA/SA pistol, use the TDA Dot Torture target

If you use a revolver, the whole thing must be shot DA and use the Revolver Dot Torture target that I came up with

To keep it simple, no time limit.

Results, post the following:

• Date shot
• Make and model of handgun used
• Target used
• Distance shot from
• Score
• Pics of target or it didn't happen

 

[ShtrRdy]

I use to do something very similar but using 2" dots from 10 yards. Some of the dots were done slightly differently. For example on #5 I did a draw, one shot, 6x. All the sequences I did were 6x.

This target would sure use the adage "aim small, miss small"

 

[Precision Underground]

This looks fun and will give me an excuse to put in some practice.

 

[Centuriator]

I'm in. Just printed off half-a-dozen of these targets.

 

[Centuriator]

Yup...it is an awesome drill. Here is my first one of the day. Cold. Have not shot a handgun in about six weeks.

Sept. 7, 2019
Glock 17 Gen 5
115gr 9mm
15 feet
Target? The one provided here.

Score: 45/50 (Do holes touching line count?)

Weak hand..got me good.

 

[308pirate]

Touching the line is in

 

[308pirate]

@Centuriator here we go

• 9/7/19
• S&W 64-5
• Revolver dot target
• 5 yards
• 47/48 All my shots on dot 2 were low but the first one was really low and hit dot 5
• Yeah revolvers are a thing with me

All draws and reloads from concealment.

Next week I'll do a couple with my CZ P-09 and P-01 and with my 3" Model 65

 

[308pirate]

Anyone else want to take a shot at this?

 

[lash]

I will at some point, so I saved the targets. Looks like a fun challenge.

 

[PBWalsh]

Here are some over the last year for me. Need to slowly move back to doing it at 5 yards.

 

[Centuriator]

Anyone else want to take a shot at this?

I see what you did there.

 

[Centuriator]

It's a great drill for forcing you to really bear down and focus on fundamentals. A shot timer is what kicks it way, way into "torture" territory.

 

[deltawiskey]

I just found this... it looks like a great motivator to get me back into shooting some handguns!
I will give it a try on my next range trip.
Thank you!!
DW

 

[missed]

I'll try this next trip out!

 

[308pirate]

If this gets good interest we can have a drill of the month challenge.

 

[steve123]

Just for the fun of it, right!

It's real windy today, and I didn't want to go to the cinder pit to shoot centerfire. I was bored, so here's what I did with my Steyr PCP LP5 5 shot repeater air pistol at 3Y. I did this according to the instructions including mag reloads. I should have warmed up a bit first and it's funny that I was a bit nervous, lol.

Next time I'll try it at 5Y.

EDIT, oops, I did targets 9 and 10 ten times instead of 3, oh well, I got it now.

At some point in the near future I'll go onto the combat pistols.

 

[clcustom1911]

Dammit @308pirate , you gone and done did it. Looks like I'll be doing this on Thursday.

 

[308pirate]

Dammit @308pirate , you gone and done did it. Looks like I'll be doing this on Thursday.

Good.

I'll get another one in tomorrow or Thursday. Sunday was IDPA match, yesterday and today I have too many things going on.

 

[308pirate]

It's a great drill for forcing you to really bear down and focus on fundamentals. A shot timer is what kicks it way, way into "torture" territory.

Got any ideas for par times starting out?

 

[clcustom1911]

Got any ideas for par times starting out?

I think trying to do an overall time of 5 minutes is kinda spicy. Then over time going to 4:45, 4:30, etc. But increasing distance would be a bigger mental factor I think.

 

[Centuriator]

I'll be needing about twenty minutes. Thank you.

 

[Centuriator]

If you have the whole drill memorized then the time, I'd think, would be ... what .... five minutes?

 

[clcustom1911]

If you have the whole drill memorized then the time, I'd think, would be ... what .... five minutes?

Probably. As long as you do proper ammo management, etc.

 

[308pirate]

I was thinking more like a par for each mini drill.

 

[1500varmint]

I'm going to the range Friday so I'll give it a shot.

I do not shoot a pistol as well as the previous folks, so I'll set the bottom of the curve...

 

[Centuriator]

I do not shoot a pistol as well as the previous folks, so I'll set the bottom of the curve...

Thank you!!

 

[WATERWALKER]

I’m not sure about time, but I shot these two drills pretty quickly today. I’d guess no more than 5-6 minutes for both.

Glock 22 (.40 S&W)
Winchester 180 gr (white box)

On the first drill I slammed the trigger on #8.

If I get a chance tomorrow I’ll shoot another from 5 yards.

 

[Centuriator]

@rth1800 On another thread, RTH1800 was telling everyone how easy the dot torture drill is, so I thought it best to invite him over here and participate in this drill and show us all how it is done.

 

[1500varmint]

Yeah...44. Hitting the line counts otherwise it would be a 43.
About 20 minutes ago
Glock 17 Gen 4
5 yards

 

[M8541Reaper]

Dot Torture usually goes like this:

-3yds, no time limit.
-once you get 50/50, then you do 3yds in under 5:00 (no stopping the clock)
-once you get 50/50 under 5:00, then you move it to 5yds with no time constraint.
-once 50/50 at 5yds then do it in 5:00.

It’s a great drill, been doing it since around 2011. Wife and I use it to force the loser into picking what we’re having for dinner after the range.

 

[Centuriator]

Dot Torture usually goes like this:

-3yds, no time limit.
-once you get 50/50, then you do 3yds in under 5:00 (no stopping the clock)
-once you get 50/50 under 5:00, then you move it to 5yds with no time constraint.
-once 50/50 at 5yds then do it in 5:00.

It’s a great drill, been doing it since around 2011. Wife and I use it to force the loser into picking what we’re having for dinner after the range.

Thanks, that's helpful.

 

[Centuriator]

The dot torture reminded how much I need to work on my one-handed shooting from my weak hand.

 

[308pirate]

Nice work guys.

Gear is in the car for a stop at the range on my way home from work today. Will be running at least one, two if time permits.

CZ P-09 and P-01

 

[308pirate]

@rth1800 On another thread, RTH1800 was telling everyone how easy the dot torture drill is, so I thought it best to invite him over here and participate in this drill and show us all how it is done.

Won't be holding mah breath

 

[Centuriator]

Like I said, I love the drill because it absolutely forces the shooter to concentrate on the absolute bed-rock fundamentals. I was happy that though I was rusty from not drilling for about six weeks I was not having trigger control issues. That was the biggest hurdle for me with handgun shooting. I've taken a number of handgun classes with Larry Vickers and he really helped me get past the trigger control problems I was having and convinced me that setting aside everything else going on, trigger control is where it's at.

 

[Centuriator]

Won't be holding mah breath

Nope, just another big talk/bluster/chest thumper...whatever.

We party on.

 

[Veer_G]

Next Centuriator thread: Dynamic Room-clearing ...

 

[RTH1800]

3 yards, excellent! How do you keep the target from being destroyed by powder burns?

 

[Anb618]

3 yards, excellent! How do you keep the target from being destroyed by powder burns?

Jesus, how much powder are you loading? Won’t be any powder burns at 3 yards.

 

[308pirate]

3 yards, excellent! How do you keep the target from being destroyed by powder burns?

Just put up or shut up

 

[M8541Reaper]

Thanks, that's helpful.

No problem. Excellent drill but I’ve also run into a lot of people who turn their nose up at it...until they do it or you point out that they have a 20” slow fire spread at 7 yards...which they defend by saying they practice combat shooting because you aren’t going to shoot little dots in combat. lol fucking hate public ranges.

 

[308pirate]

FYI for my wheelgunner homies, I've uploaded a slightly different revolver dot target.

The previous one had a max score of 48. The new one has a max score of 50 just like the original. I got there by adding one more rep (4 instead of 3) to the last micro drill (dots 9 and 10).

I'll be re-running it on the new target and posting up hopefully this week yet.

 

[308pirate]

lol fucking hate public ranges.

LOL truth.

The few times I go to them I absolutely avoid conversation with anyone. 99% of the people I run into there are retards.

 

[Centuriator]

Public ranges...yes, scary places. I'm very grateful to be a member of Arnold Rifle and Pistol Club in Pevely, Missouri.

 

[RTH1800]

Damn,

Now I think less of Missouri.

 

[Sieg]

Public ranges...yes, scary places. I'm very grateful to be a member of Arnold Rifle and Pistol Club in Pevely, Missouri.

Very nice facility

 

[Centuriator]

Very nice facility

Yes, thanks, it is a fantastic place and allows for a very wide variety of shooting disciplines and interest. We just opened up our 400 yard rifle range last weekend. I've also been a member and spent several years with Asymmetric Solutions in Farmington, Missouri. Awesome DOD contract facility that runs a lot of civilian classes. They have a 650 yard rifle range and a 2100 yard rifle range, along with a fantastic shoot house and a lot of different shooting areas. They offer a ton of various classes, and I've had a great time taking them all, many times over, training with exceptionally staff who are all combat tested/proven members of various Tier 1/special forces unit. I was particularly privileged to have taken as many classes as I could from a former SEAL, who spent the last of his six years of his service on the Teams with DEVGRU.

 

[Centuriator]

Damn,

Now I think less of Missouri.

Still here? Still talking?

Put up, or shut up. We'll wait.

 

[RTH1800]

Listen mental midget, shooting at 3 yards is infantile.
I hunt squirrels with my Colt Woodsman. Head shoot them to 35 and 40 yards with boring regularity. I have utterly no need to prove anything to you or your tag team troll buddy.
Now go back to being the Pevely Purveyor of Platitudes. Pevely Perv for short.

 

[Centuriator]

And..he is still here. Still jabbering.

But, wait, now we learn he hunts squirrels and gets head shots at 40 yards, oh, with "boring regularity."

Again, put up or shut up. We'll even let you do it at three yards, not five yards.

We are waiting. Use that squirrel pistol at 5 yards, do the drill. Post the results.